Faith...

[eagleseye]

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naglami da... mosagbat ko ha...

For me and based also of the Wikipedia link that you talk about, faith can be applied to anything. It could be religion or any other thing. And this has 3 common things,
1. Knowing the subject of your faith
2. Believing in that information about the subject
3. Doing what you believe

Like for example in Christian Faith this means Knowing God's Word, Believing God's Word, Doing God's Word. But most improtanltly Chritian faith is not primarily some settled and serene conclusion reached at the end of a chain of philosophical reasoning. But rather, faith is the readiness and eagerness to receive what is offered to us in Jesus Christ. It is the hand that grasps the gift of God in Jesus and makes it our own.

Shalom!

[dewi]

unsay way proof? have you seen net25? daghan kaayong mga salungat nga gpangyawyaw si brod eli nimo duh, nya ang tubag sa inyong kampo, gdoctor daw sa INC ang tape hahahaha. mugna² syag iyang doctrina, sya ra poy mo contradict sa iyang gpangsibya. if you watched net25, you'll know what i'm talking about. naabot gud ug 700+ iyang mga contradictions. i could go on and on. brod eli is full of crap. where is he now? nagtago na kay ghunting sa mga muslim!

and his followers are either stupid or dumb. or both dumb and stupid.

Then that's the thing my friend, if they have 700+ contradictions against us how come they don't accept our debate "bro. Eli vs. any Manalo". Did you watch UNTV, IBC13,RPN 9, www.theoldpath.tv for you to see how they manifpulate those contradictions just to show people that he contradict his own words. They can't afford to show it fully and they just play recorded voice so that the altered video will not be noticed. About the muslim, their case doesn't progress because they been feed with lies and adultered tapes distributed by our enemies. How come they can't show their proof that Bro. Eli says against the Prophet Muhammad of Muslim? Because if they show the proof then it wiill be exposed that the tapes was adultered.

They can say against us call us whatever you want. its written:
Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. John 15:20

All of our statement was just against their doctrines but not character assasination.
We don't fight the way they fight, God will give our revenge to them.

Keep up this discussion.

PEace!

sus dong...g challenge ra gane si soriano ug manggagawa ra sa INC, nikakak man gane...nya c Manalo jud kunohay iyaha? ka dakong kataw-anan!

and about that muslim issue: how come nagtago² man ron c soriano? kay nahadlok man, ghunting sa mga ubang muslim! pataka man gud ug tira.

[rcruman]

there are a lot of sites that talks about faith as the basis of human knowledge but i'd rather not, the site you gave is more than enough to prove that faith doesn't evolve in god alone. wikipedia is a very reliable source, and besides you posted this site why look for another?

Now you're on the wrong line my friend, did I gave you the earthly meaning of Faith about the salary you hope that will be released on 30th of the month then on the 30th day its not faith but reality.
My statement is clear I didn't Faith is related to God alone but I've said that you don't have Faith in God.
Faith is believing what you don't see and hoping for it to manifest while for you "about the sister, diary, and not opened after 3 years then for you its faith". You can review my post for your satisfaction, I've even given an example about a friend who say to his friend that I have faith in you that you can do it.

- Unsa ang religion nimo ?
- Unsa ang bible na gamit nimo ?
- Unsa ang pagsabot nimo sa bibliya ? Seems to me it is literally understood maybe not by you but your congregation in general ( Bro Edi ) .

-My Religion is inside the Church Of God.
-We prefer the version of King James, New King James, AMerican Standard version, and we refer it to the greek and hebrew bible for the exact word being used and was not translated carefully.
- The Bible is a book that contains the word of God which can be used to make man a servant of God.
Literaly? the bible has literal and spiritual meaning. Spiritual can't be understood easily unless you've been guided by the Holy Spirit.

sus dong...g challenge ra gane si soriano ug manggagawa ra sa INC, nikakak man gane...nya c Manalo jud kunohay iyaha? ka dakong kataw-anan!
and about that muslim issue: how come nagtago² man ron c soriano? kay nahadlok man, ghunting sa mga ubang muslim! pataka man gud ug tira.

Bro. Eli for your information have debate from their manggagawa and even ministro before and ended him to hospital and the debate was not closed due to bro. Eli was attacked by them and this is being reported to the police, you can check the police bloter in pampangga.
Then in this time, bro. Eli want to face Manalo for this to end, because moingon ra sila manggagawa rana sila muna ok ra mapildi. Its better to have debate leader for a leader so that the truth shall be known.
You can click the link for the debate with INC minister and its for you to decide what this people capable of.
http://www.theoldpath.tv/videos.aspx#top

Click the title: ADD finalist vs. Rizalito Ocampo (INC ministro).
See it for yourself and decide what this people capable of, that's why we offer them a debate on tv via satelite to prevent commotion.

Peace!

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

-My Religion is inside the Church Of God.

which is commonly known as ....

-We prefer the version of King James, New King James, AMerican Standard version, and we refer it to the greek and hebrew bible for the exact word being used and was not translated carefully.

any substantial reasons why you guys prefer something else out of the wdiely used bible and the grand daddy of all .

- The Bible is a book that contains the word of God which can be used to make man a servant of God.
Literaly? the bible has literal and spiritual meaning. Spiritual can't be understood easily unless you've been guided by the Holy Spirit.

spritual understanding is easy when you use your heart to read and understand the bible . i dont see that in most cases of religions and sub religions of the Christians kay sila mismo ga unay basing everything from the bible .

tnx for your answer , i dont need to make this longer because i cant ave you nor you cant save me and myself if the case is who is having the real religion and what kind faith we are instilling in our hearts .

[phruckthoy]

which is commonly known as ....

any substantial reasons why you guys prefer something else out of the wdiely used bible and the grand daddy of all .

spritual understanding is easy when you use your heart to read and understand the bible . i dont see that in most cases of religions and sub religions of the Christians kay sila mismo ga unay basing everything from the bible .

tnx for your answer , i dont need to make this longer because i cant ave you nor you cant save me and myself if the case is who is having the real religion and what kind faith we are instilling in our hearts .

agree

[rcruman]

which is commonly known as ....
The Church of God "But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 1 Timothy 3:15"

any substantial reasons why you guys prefer something else out of the wdiely used bible and the grand daddy of all .
Because some bible versions are "Paraphrase Version" its been translated by the interpretations of the translator not with the real meaning of it. Because even jot or tittle must not be removed in the bible. "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Matthew 5:18.

i dont need to make this longer because i cant ave you nor you cant save me and myself if the case is who is having the real religion and what kind faith we are instilling in our hearts .

This is true, no man can save others but only God can save and by His words we will be saved.

Peace!

[phruckthoy]

which is commonly known as ....
The Church of God "But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 1 Timothy 3:15"

any substantial reasons why you guys prefer something else out of the wdiely used bible and the grand daddy of all .
Because some bible versions are "Paraphrase Version" its been translated by the interpretations of the translator not with the real meaning of it. Because even jot or tittle must not be removed in the bible. "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Matthew 5:18.

i dont need to make this longer because i cant ave you nor you cant save me and myself if the case is who is having the real religion and what kind faith we are instilling in our hearts .

agree

This is true, no man can save others but only God can save and by His words we will be saved.

Peace!

[junmar4]

which is commonly known as ....
The Church of God "But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. 1 Timothy 3:15"

any substantial reasons why you guys prefer something else out of the wdiely used bible and the grand daddy of all .
Because some bible versions are "Paraphrase Version" its been translated by the interpretations of the translator not with the real meaning of it. Because even jot or tittle must not be removed in the bible. "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Matthew 5:18.

i dont need to make this longer because i cant ave you nor you cant save me and myself if the case is who is having the real religion and what kind faith we are instilling in our hearts .

This is true, no man can save others but only God can save and by His words we will be saved.

Peace!

ha? duola sa iya answer wui, tawi-tawi to jolo man...

[phruckthoy]

ha? duola sa iya answer wui, tawi-tawi to jolo man...

wahahahaa

[rcruman]

ha? duola sa iya answer wui, tawi-tawi to jolo man...

Nothing new to you my friend, so unsa may duol nga answer?
Can you show me?

PEace!