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  1. #61

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    I can say the father was not mentally ill and the correct term for it is mentally disturbed. If he was mentally ill, tanan unta patay.... apil ang pinakamanghuran diba? He was still in his right mind at that time and for sure kibaw jud to siya unsa to iya padung buhaton.

    As we all know, the father suffered from a traumatic brain injury while he was working as a seaman.
    According to doctors... HEAD injuries and mental or emotional pressure are just some of the reasons that provoke persons to lash out at others, including their loved ones. Behavorial Sciences said “psychiatric problems” usually have organic or functional causes.

    Organic causes include head injuries, drug abuse, and infection, which can damage one’s thinking. Functional causes do not indicate an “identifiable reason” but could include “genetic (factors), pressure or frustrations in life.”

    Persons who are not mentally sound, Obra said, may suffer from “pathological paranoia” and behave in a “delusional” fashion.

    “Mohimo sila og mga butang tungod sa pagduda nga wala’y basis (They act in response to their suspicions, even when these are baseless),” he said.

    Not all mental patients are insane. They could just be suffering from “anxiety, depression or mere insomnia.” Dr. Obra further said there are mental disorders that fall under the “culture-bound syndrome.”

    Common in the Philippines, according to Dr. Obra, are persons who run amuck, going on a killing spree out of anger over perceived maltreatment.

    “They would kill anyone who comes their way,” he said in Cebuano. “Even the animals.”

    The US National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke recommends testing by a neuropsychologist, as well as rehabilitation, for those who have suffered traumatic brain injuries (TBI)—such as those resulting from a fall.

    It said that TBI patients have been known to suffer emotional or behavioral problems, including depression, anxiety, paranoia, insomnia, and mood swings.

    So after the father had a traumatic brain injury and surgery, he was suffering from nervous breakdown which caused him to feel DEPRESSED (that he won't be able to work again as a seaman which was really his career), PATHOLOGICAL PARANOIA in a delusional fashion which causes JEALOUSY AND ANGER (due to suspicion, masuko dayon or magselos maskina baseless or dili tinuod) All of these started after the accident.

    Shall we say, seloso na kaayo siya.... duda naay lain iya asawa.... if paranoid na jud ka, lisud jud kaayo na mawala ang idea na imong gi-perceive na tinuod.... so ang resulta mu-build up jud ang anger maskina wala siya proof naay lain iya asawa. in short, sa kalagot nya mao sad reason na mangdapat na siya.... and cguro if akoy anak and i know my mother is not doing anything wrong and what my father is thinking is not true, mulaban jud ko sa ako mama samot na if gidapatan nasad jud. and it didn't happen only 1s but many times.... so since musukol na iya mga anak nya, na feel nya MALTREATED/DISRESPECTED na siya sa family members.SELF PITY will come in. the feeling of REJECTION and DISREPECTED na, USELESSNESS, HOPELESSNESS (kay walay work and na-accidente siya) and mao na taken for granted na daw.... Filipinos are Catholics/Christians and we value/preserve our Filipino values jud especially the older generation... we believe in "HONOR YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER" kay naa sa 10 commandments... pero some children tries to express what they also feel and think. sometimes parents think of it as fighting back, nagsukol-sukol or disrespectful so mao sad guro na ingon sa uban na wala nay batasan ang mga anak. but what if they were just trying to express what they felt towards their father for beating them up and their mother for some baseless suspicions?

    Pwede sad ingon ani nahitabo....

  2. #62

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    let's not be quick to judge. the father had some mental health problem. but i really think that if what's here is true na iyang mga anak is wla na respetar niya, and the wife refuses to sleep with him, murag they live under one roof but not really a family. sakit pud bya na sa father. i just think that the family should have made an effort to understand their father's situation. i have a brother who suffers from nervous breakdown and it hurts so much to see him not "normal". he has his moments pud nga masuko, but i think if you make an effort to understand them and love them, si Lord na bahala sa rest. i know that kuyaw pud among situation for example if he snaps one day and decides to kill everyone, but not being dramatic or anything, but i think it would be better to die but was nice than to die because you were not nice!

  3. #63

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovedogs View Post
    let's not be quick to judge. the father had some mental health problem. but i really think that if what's here is true na iyang mga anak is wla na respetar niya, and the wife refuses to sleep with him, murag they live under one roof but not really a family. sakit pud bya na sa father. i just think that the family should have made an effort to understand their father's situation. i have a brother who suffers from nervous breakdown and it hurts so much to see him not "normal". he has his moments pud nga masuko, but i think if you make an effort to understand them and love them, si Lord na bahala sa rest. i know that kuyaw pud among situation for example if he snaps one day and decides to kill everyone, but not being dramatic or anything, but i think it would be better to die but was nice than to die because you were not nice!
    my aunt still sleeps beside my uncle nga palahubog, kaliton ra siyag bun og. martyr kung martyr pero wala niya buwagi, giagwanta jud niya bisan nanay anak sa lain. dili na sila kaayo magtagad nya hasta ilang anak dapatan.
    usahay makaana jud ta na respetar japon or sabton lang.. pero ingon ani na case kung kamo naa sa lugar nila ganahan pa mo motapad og higda? naa pa moy respetar nila kung grabe na jud kaayo ang behavior? lagi imong papa or imong husband pero ayaw pud padaogdaog nalang. lain pud kaayo imo iuna convenience and comfort sa imong bana pero battered wife diay ka.

    kasabot pud ko sa uban na luoy pud ang father pero daghan na nisulti na bisan before na accidente siya bisan bata pa sila manapat na jud na siya. psychologically, if bata dapatan nya ika dako makarealize na siya nya ang grudge pud sa bata magtubo labi na wala japon mag usab iyang papa.

  4. #64

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    ^ dili mn sad ingon nga magmartyr ka. but sabton lng unta kay naa mna gilukdo. nadaot na baya ang utok, dili lng pud unta itreat ug bati ilang papa. dba? like what they said, naingon ani rani ang father after sa kadtong accident niya and the operation. he's no longer normal that's why mas ngneed xa sa pagsabot sa family.

    my sick brother used to threaten to kill us. manukmag kalit, manghagis, etc. but we did our best as his family, we of all people should be the first to understand him, accept him. mas sakit pa para nko kng makita nko nga makigstorya sya sa iyang self kesa adtong nasukmagan ko niya. nothing hurts more to see your loved ones suffering ridicule from thoughtless people, bugal2xan xa usahay tungod lagpas na xa mustorya. but we treat him nice and burden bya gyud, but it's a cross a family should take up. ni-mellow down nmn xa karn and not as explosive as before, although it requires so much patience from us.

  5. #65

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sand Man View Post
    Ga-drugs ka?
    Kalami sa batasan sa T.S mopadayon pamo dri nga thread?

  6. #66

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    Quote Originally Posted by krissy86 View Post
    I can say the father was not mentally ill and the correct term for it is mentally disturbed. If he was mentally ill, tanan unta patay.... apil ang pinakamanghuran diba? He was still in his right mind at that time and for sure kibaw jud to siya unsa to iya padung buhaton.

    As we all know, the father suffered from a traumatic brain injury while he was working as a seaman.
    According to doctors... HEAD injuries and mental or emotional pressure are just some of the reasons that provoke persons to lash out at others, including their loved ones. Behavorial Sciences said “psychiatric problems” usually have organic or functional causes.

    Organic causes include head injuries, drug abuse, and infection, which can damage one’s thinking. Functional causes do not indicate an “identifiable reason” but could include “genetic (factors), pressure or frustrations in life.”

    Persons who are not mentally sound, Obra said, may suffer from “pathological paranoia” and behave in a “delusional” fashion.

    “Mohimo sila og mga butang tungod sa pagduda nga wala’y basis (They act in response to their suspicions, even when these are baseless),” he said.

    Not all mental patients are insane. They could just be suffering from “anxiety, depression or mere insomnia.” Dr. Obra further said there are mental disorders that fall under the “culture-bound syndrome.”

    Common in the Philippines, according to Dr. Obra, are persons who run amuck, going on a killing spree out of anger over perceived maltreatment.

    “They would kill anyone who comes their way,” he said in Cebuano. “Even the animals.”

    The US National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke recommends testing by a neuropsychologist, as well as rehabilitation, for those who have suffered traumatic brain injuries (TBI)—such as those resulting from a fall.

    It said that TBI patients have been known to suffer emotional or behavioral problems, including depression, anxiety, paranoia, insomnia, and mood swings.

    So after the father had a traumatic brain injury and surgery, he was suffering from nervous breakdown which caused him to feel DEPRESSED (that he won't be able to work again as a seaman which was really his career), PATHOLOGICAL PARANOIA in a delusional fashion which causes JEALOUSY AND ANGER (due to suspicion, masuko dayon or magselos maskina baseless or dili tinuod) All of these started after the accident.

    Shall we say, seloso na kaayo siya.... duda naay lain iya asawa.... if paranoid na jud ka, lisud jud kaayo na mawala ang idea na imong gi-perceive na tinuod.... so ang resulta mu-build up jud ang anger maskina wala siya proof naay lain iya asawa. in short, sa kalagot nya mao sad reason na mangdapat na siya.... and cguro if akoy anak and i know my mother is not doing anything wrong and what my father is thinking is not true, mulaban jud ko sa ako mama samot na if gidapatan nasad jud. and it didn't happen only 1s but many times.... so since musukol na iya mga anak nya, na feel nya MALTREATED/DISRESPECTED na siya sa family members.SELF PITY will come in. the feeling of REJECTION and DISREPECTED na, USELESSNESS, HOPELESSNESS (kay walay work and na-accidente siya) and mao na taken for granted na daw.... Filipinos are Catholics/Christians and we value/preserve our Filipino values jud especially the older generation... we believe in "HONOR YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER" kay naa sa 10 commandments... pero some children tries to express what they also feel and think. sometimes parents think of it as fighting back, nagsukol-sukol or disrespectful so mao sad guro na ingon sa uban na wala nay batasan ang mga anak. but what if they were just trying to express what they felt towards their father for beating them up and their mother for some baseless suspicions?

    Pwede sad ingon ani nahitabo....
    Well said krissy... with this...The family plays an important role... I may say that it is not easy but nonetheless essential.

  7. #67

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    Quote Originally Posted by trublu View Post
    Kalami sa batasan sa T.S mopadayon pamo dri nga thread?
    hahahaha
    wala ra bro uy.. o.k ra.. tarung mn sad iyang pangutana.. wa raman sad ku na insultu..

  8. #68

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    kuyaw na kaayong panahon...

  9. #69

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    : killing spree!. = godlike dayon!..
    R.I.P. maayo ra sad nga namatay kontra sa mag antos pa.
    ang pinakalooy kay ang youngest jud.

  10. #70

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    luoya sa survivor... grabe kaayug trauma nga na experience..

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