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    Default meaning of LOVE


    L= Ower ur V=aginal E=ntry

    Quote Originally Posted by ain View Post
    What do we mean by "love"? Could there ever be love, a connection, a depth of feeling between two people, without physical attraction?


    Clearly the answer is "yes". Plenty of old couples, such as my grandparents, love each other, but the decline of desire does not affect this love. The body no longer has the energy or the capability, but the need to stay together and be in the presence of the other is real. This is nothing to do with custom or habit or fear of being alone. It is because the two people have come to love in the fullest sense - they live interdependently. Once there was lust, but the lust has died: the love has not, though it has changed.There are also times when people fall for someone else for reasons utterly unrelated to physical appearance - someone has helped them through a difficult period, or stimulated them intellectually, for example. In these cases someone might love, but feel no need for ***. Someone's kindness or cleverness has attracted someone else to them, and this attraction has nothing to do with physical attributes. It's not about grabbing them or ***; it's about meeting a wonderful person. This love has no lust. Does it have a future? Maybe not. That doesn't mean it isn't real, just that it isn't fertile. There are millions of people out there in love with someone - usually secretly - without lust.


    So these examples aside, can ordinary love, such as that between most couples, survive without lust? We are generally told that you need great *** for a great relationship, and that problems with *** cause wider problems between couples. This may well be the case. Equally, however, other problems cause issues with *** - the dividing line between *** in a relationship and general issues of closeness is not clear. Couples do survive with a poor *** life and they can work through it.

    In essence then, yes there times when love exists without lust, but to divide the two is simplistic when it comes to relationships. They merge, mix and flow and that heart flutter some people have when they see their partner of ten years come home from work, is an expression of love and of "phwoar" and trying to disentangle them is difficult, if not completely futile.

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    from online dictionary..
    lust (lst)
    n.
    1. Intense or unrestrained sexual craving.
    a. An overwhelming desire or craving: a lust for power.
    b. Intense eagerness or enthusiasm: a lust for life.
    3. Obsolete Pleasure; relish.
    intr.v. lust·ed, lust·ing, lusts
    To have an intense or obsessive desire, especially one that is sexual.

    love (lv)
    n.
    1. A deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward a person, such as that arising from kinship, recognition of attractive qualities, or a sense of underlying oneness.
    2. A feeling of intense desire and attraction toward a person with whom one is disposed to make a pair; the emotion of *** and romance.
    3.
    a. Sexual passion.
    b. Sexual intercourse.
    c. A love affair.
    4. An intense emotional attachment, as for a pet or treasured object.
    5. A person who is the object of deep or intense affection or attraction; beloved. Often used as a term of endearment.
    6. An expression of one's affection: Send him my love.
    7.
    a. A strong predilection or enthusiasm: a love of language.
    b. The object of such an enthusiasm: The outdoors is her greatest love.
    8. Love Mythology Eros or Cupid.
    9. often Love Christianity Charity.
    10. Sports A zero score in tennis.
    v. loved, lov·ing, loves
    v.tr.
    1. To have a deep, tender, ineffable feeling of affection and solicitude toward (a person): We love our parents. I love my friends.
    2. To have a feeling of intense desire and attraction toward (a person).
    3. To have an intense emotional attachment to: loves his house.
    4.
    a. To embrace or caress.
    b. To have sexual intercourse with.
    5. To like or desire enthusiastically: loves swimming.
    6. Theology To have charity for.
    7. To thrive on; need: The cactus loves hot, dry air.
    v.intr.
    To experience deep affection or intense desire for another.
    Idioms:
    for love
    Out of compassion; with no thought for a reward: She volunteers at the hospital for love.
    for love or money
    Under any circumstances. Usually used in negative sentences: I would not do that for love or money.
    for the love of
    For the sake of; in consideration for: did it all for the love of praise.
    in love
    1. Deeply or passionately enamored: a young couple in love.
    2. Highly or immoderately fond: in love with Japanese painting; in love with the sound of her own voice.
    no love lost
    No affection; animosity: There's no love lost between them.

  3. #63
    it depends on how one's person mindset considers. For me, making love the one you love is not _lust_ at all as the passion and love is within you both.

  4. #64
    i agree with monrose29 and krone..nice comments..ana jud..dili mabaw ug panghunahuna bah..

  5. #65
    love dwells on pureness.. pag mag lust naka dats anoder story..
    wen you make love dts love not lust.. ..
    we are born out of love however some are born out of the latter...

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by krone View Post
    it depends on how one's person mindset considers. For me, making love the one you love is not _lust_ at all as the passion and love is within you both.
    Making love to the one you love is not lust..........hmmm, but can you love without making love to your lover? Human race will not survive without lust because lust is our natural instinct to pro create. Thus, we should not equal lust with evil, as some others do. Most animal dont have love but only lust, take for example, black widow spider where the woman spider will eat the male spider after they make love.

  7. #67
    I wish to think there could be love without lust.

    But, based on reality, there could never be. Love just isn't enough. But 'lust' isn't exactly about making love because it is part of the relationship. It is actually one of those that make the relationship even stronger.

    Lust may be a beginning to an end which is love but love, in all its sense, should not only be based on it.

  8. #68
    possible........

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    Love can exist without lust because lust is not the way for love to be manifested.

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    naa oi

    love for God - agape
    love for friends/platonic - philia
    love for family - storge
    ang para sa imong "partner" mao na ang eros wherein nalahi sa other 3 kinds kay naay desire for intimacy

    ahak asa nmn inyo nakat-onan sa Philo 11?

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