to CBCP(Catholic Bishop's Conference of the Philippines)...this is too much...

[omar50071]

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... and everybody's getting personal here.. tsk tsk

Mr. FK didn't, and he did...

[iloveyou4ever]

lagi... please give us a link where we can listen to it. and the transcripts of what you said was the conversation.

if what you said is true... then prosecute also those people involve in cheating. why are they not prosecuted? Because cheating in the elections is not a crime?

I bought the CD. Ikaw wala ka ni buy?

[pandisal]

Give them the damn link already... :P

oh okey,.. since the rest of the tape doesn't sounds good for the opposition, they would not bother looking for it... they want
to have it feed to them... but the edited hello garci tape seems to favor the opposition claims then they are in hurry to get and
listen to it.. lolz... but that just my theory and my 2 cents... bsin sayop ko hah...

[FK]

I bought the CD. Ikaw wala ka ni buy?

bitaw bai? asa ka palit? kay ako paminawon...
I hope you are not making up stories...

Give them the damn link already...

oh okey,.. since the rest of the tape doesn't sounds good for the opposition, they would not bother looking for it... they want
to have it feed to them... but the edited hello garci tape seems to favor the opposition claims then they are in hurry to get and
listen to it.. lolz... but that just my theory and my 2 cents... bsin sayop ko hah...

bitaw... asa man? katong x-tape?

[omad]

my point is... what's the difference between cheating during the time of Marcos and the cheating discovered through the Garci tape? None right... but I agree with you... they could have just go with the flow. They can't take on a concrete stand.Mods, this is my last OT on this thread:

the difference is, it wasn't even determined if there was actually "cheating" during Marcos' time. neither was it proven in court nor benefit of the doubt was given to Marcos. we NEVER knew the nitty-gritty of it all 'coz it was pre-empted by "People Power". Marcos' fate was decided by the "people's court" of public opinion. please provide a link that indeed Marcos cheated in that said election: tainted Comelec tabulations, ballot box switching etc etc.. so we can get it done and over with. first-off, if you wanna compare GMA's "cheating" and Marcos' "cheating" let's get to the bottom of it, let's start with the basics. so if there was indeed "cheating" in Marcos' time, PROVE IT. just like what you said in your earlier post "Does being booted out proves anything? Does it prove that the allegation and speculations are true?"

so before you can use that "Marcos cheated" argument, prove it first that there was indeed "cheating" during that election. but if you can't, please avoid using that argument in the future 'coz it would only be tagged as "hearsay". and NO.. "bisan kinsa pa ingnon", "basta naay tikas ato" type of statement wouldn't suffice..

OT: well i have no choice but to try to explain to you why I compared the cheating done by Marcos and GMA.^^ just refer to my post above :mrgreen:

[FK]

O.T.

"Does being booted out proves anything? Does it prove that the allegation and speculations are true?"

i have just made this statement because some are saying that it was proof that GMA and ERAP are corrupt or are guilty of the crimes charge against them because they were booted out. Yes I agree those charges against Marcos were never provent yet... is the main reason why Enrile and Marcos defected thus the chain of events resulting to EDSA I... and getting the support of the CBCP.

so before you can use that "Marcos cheated" argument, prove it first that there was indeed "cheating" during that election. but if you can't, please avoid using that argument in the future 'coz it would only be tagged as "hearsay". and NO.. "bisan kinsa pa ingnon", "basta naay tikas ato" type of statement wouldn't suffice..

if you want solid proof for us to make a discussion here... mura wala jud ta mahimo nga istorya dinhi, coz for all we know... we can only present links here. And all can be considered hearsay.

ambot lng bai ha... kay most of the people jud tingali are convinced that indeed naa jud cheating. even the bishop that we are talking here can't deny that.

[iloveyou4ever]

bitaw bai? asa ka palit? kay ako paminawon...
I hope you are not making up stories...

bitaw... asa man? katong x-tape?

Ngee. Dugay nato nga for sale sa colon bai. Poor guy wala ka nipalit that time. Atleast ako, I have the 2 CD's. The other one nga edited (klaro kaayo) then one is not edited kay tanan nga conversation ni Garci are there. You should have bought the CD before. I dont know if you can still find one in Colon.

[FK]

Ngee. Dugay nato nga for sale sa colon bai. Poor guy wala ka nipalit that time. Atleast ako, I have the 2 CD's. The other one nga edited (klaro kaayo) then one is not edited kay tanan nga conversation ni Garci are there. You should have bought the CD before. I dont know if you can still find one in Colon.

are you referring to the 3 hr conversation? katong naa pa istorya si Garci og iya wife? Nga mangaon sila. Kng mao na... yup i heard that one, asa ato part nga sa opposition?

[Freeza]

"Everyone cheated anyway. Some people just lost in the cheating" Archbishop Ramon Arguelles' comment


hheheheh to be honest thats my humble opinion too if you are going to be a politician you know what your dealing with youre not gonna cry i lost cause i was cheated waaaaaaaaa waaaa for the good of the nation you lost you close rank with the ""recognize "" winner better prepare next time ....

but it's more prudent for the bishop not to comment like that it should be consistant by the book a crime is a crime nothing else a sin is a sin................ he should keep his comment all but to himself he is a bishop god sakes

[FK]

hheheheh to be honest thats my humble opinion too if you are going to be a politician you know what your dealing with youre not gonna cry i lost cause i was cheated waaaaaaaaa waaaa for the good of the nation you lost you close rank with the ""recognize "" winner better prepare next time ....

yeah to a politician it's acceptable... but to a high ranking Church leader? maka ingon man ta og HALER!