Karma and Reincarnation.

[Malic]

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see? palusot ra lagi nang reincarnation kay hadlok man sila sa damnation...

ang karma and reincarnation pein includes the service of justice. but in this belief system you have all the chances to redeem yourself not only once but on many lifetimes.

[Ramini]

well, first i want to make it clear that what i just quoted is not an information. it is an opinion i got from this site. Comparative Religion - Reincarnation in world religions , pls check.

going back, ... i honestly dont know. when i first heard about reincarnation, i admit i wished i wasnt born and raised as a christian but a hindu. so then i wouldnt have to worry about damnation. if i didnt live up to the standard of the higher being, the worst that could happen to me is turn into a cockroach in my next life. but that's me and i could be wrong.

so its neither, i dont agree and i dont disagree. what about you? do you agree or disagree?

ako na gi update akong last post sis..pero in my opinion and i'll say it again this is a biased definition..and sa akoa..parehas ta..i believe in neither..if i'll be reincarnated as a cockroach then i guess dli man sad ko kbaw..kai ang cockroach doesn't have human consciousness..or if it has one..then my cockroach self has to learn to understand human language, be able to read..para mabasa nya about reincarnation..and iyaha napd na if mutuo pd sya..hehe!!

@Pein

pein suggestion lang ha..i think para substantial ang imong argument ni malic and para pd makasabot si malic sa imong mga verses nga gihatag sa iyaha..why don't you dissect the verses or simplify it kai sa imong tan-aw wla man kaha kasabot si malic so why don't you add some of your own interpretations or should we say interpretation ni eli soriano sa inyoha regarding sa usa ka verse..para masabtan ug dali ni malic ang imong point nga gusto ipalabas sa imong gihatag nga verse nya kai sa akoang tan-aw bacn lahi pd inig basa ni malic sa verses if he reads it..so dapat naai accompanying explanation from you expounding the verse para klaro tanan..and dli lang ta mu rely sa imng statement nga..sabta ug maayo ang verses.

[SEED OF LIBER]

no. hehehehe...but im already a student of theosophy. hehehe. but don't get me wrong ha, walay pugsanay sa theosophy, kung motoo ka, okay ra kung dili okay ra pod. This is my own personal decision to believe in these laws.

By the way im also believe in KARMA.

Those karmas i believe are called INSTANT KARMA

Give you an example just try this an you’ll see the results instantly

“ TESTINGIG POSPOS SI RAMINI DIBA HAPSAN DAY KA ”

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That’s an Instant Karma...



Peace !

[Pein]

ang karma and reincarnation pein includes the service of justice. but in this belief system you have all the chances to redeem yourself not only once but on many lifetimes.

wala koy nakitang justice diha kay kung tinuod panang reincarnation, nganong naa may mga tawo maadto sa impyerno? ngano mang wala man to sila tagaig chance sa Ginoo nga ma perfect ug dili maimpyerno? unless nalang ug dili ka mutuo ug impyerno kay hadlok mo didto maong nag imbento mog reincarnation...

[babypaupau]

see? palusot ra lagi nang reincarnation kay hadlok man sila sa damnation...

i think judgement and reincarnation is incomparable. they're like oil and water. judgement is what christians believe in. buddhists and hindus believe in reincarnation. so how can you put the two in one box?

[Pein]

@Ramini,

cge muhatag lang kog article nga binuhat ni bro eli kamo nay bahalang mubasa...

DO YOU BELIEVE in reincarnation? Reincarnation is one of the doctrines, which is being propagated and upheld by other religions that came from different countries, like Buddhism and Hinduism. One of those who taught this doctrine was Chris Butler, a spiritual leader, who is better known as Jagad Guru. At present, this doctrine is adhered to by people who consider themselves as intellectuals. And because of over self-confidence, they have forgotten to listen to the teachings of God. The same thing is true with those who are ignorant about the Holy Scriptures.

The concept of reincarnation involves rebirth, transmigration of the soul, and metempsychosis, or the transfer of a soul to different beings. It could be to a human, to an animal, or to a plant. Those who adhere to reincarnation claim that the soul of a man has no beginning and no end. And a soul develops a human form only through fusion of the 4 elements – earth, fire, water, and wind. And from there, it will transfer to different life forms when the person dies. It is also believed that this next life form will depend on his karma, or the result of his deeds in his previous life. Thereby, if a person lived a virtuous, peaceful, and orderly life, he will merit a good karma (as a reward). And in his next life, he will experience abundance, and he will be placed to a much better condition. They say, he will live comfortably when his soul transfers to another body. On the other hand, those who lived in wickedness will be accorded a bad karma as a compensation for the sins that he had committed. He will have a miserable condition in his next body. There is also a possibility that a man, whose ways are beast-like, he will become a beast in his next life.

They say that a person’s attachment to the material world and to the different earthly pleasures is one of the reasons behind reincarnation. For example, a person who is fond of surfing, scuba diving, and other water sports, is bound to become a fish, or any water creature, when he reincarnates. And this process, they say, will go on until a soul has completed going through 8,400,000 kinds of existence. This is highly impossible because if we are to respect the field of science that deals with the study of living organisms, there no such thing as 8,400,000 species.

There are also those who claim that, a soul will continue migrating to different life forms until the expiration of the earth. And they believe that the world expires every 5,000 years. They say that after 5,000 years a new world will appear, and everything that had happened will transpire once more. And this is a big lie!

Do you know that at present, there are structures of earth whose age is about 7,000 years old? This was discovered by an archeologist in Kercado, a place near Carnac, Brittany in western France. Based on the latest manner of carbon dating, the tomb that they found in Kercado was approximately built about 4,650 years after Christ was born. Therefore, today, 1999, these structures would age about 6,649 years old. And this has exceeded the 5,000-year mark, which they say, is the expiration of the earth.

And one more thing, are you aware that scientists had unearthed remains of a woman who lived about 200,000 years ago? This was published in Newsweek magazine in1988. If it is true that the earth expires every 5,000 years, then no fossils of this sort could have been found. The same with the remains in Kercado. This only leads to a definite conclusion that, this belief is not true! And never will it become acceptable to a sensible man who considers archeological facts.

All of these complicated beliefs about reincarnation result out of the people’s ignorance of what actually happens to a person after death. If we are going to use the Bible as our basis, we will find out that, the belief in reincarnation is wrong. According to the Bible, the death of a person means that everything about him also ends, and he will only have to wait for God’s judgment come Judgment Day. This is what Hebrew 9:27 states—

“And as it is appointed unto men once to die; but after this the judgment.”

[Ramini]

ako pa jd gihimo example..ahak aning liber oi..lol.

@pein

ok we'll read it.

[Pein]

i think judgement and reincarnation is incomparable. they're like oil and water. judgement is what christians believe in. buddhists and hindus believe in reincarnation. so how can you put the two in one box?

kay mutuo man daw si Malic ug judgement day...kung tinuod ang reincarnation, whats the use of judgement day? para sa mga tawo nga wala ma perpekto?

justice ba na?

[Malic]

unsay pasabot ana? sabta ang context sa verse sugdi sa 5.

unsa man diay definition ninyo ana? mao na ang reincarnation? hahahaha!

silver cord para namo is the cord nga kung mapotol na gani mamatay na jud ka.

mubayad sa law of karma? ngano man wala man sila ma reincarnate para dili na sila muagi sa judgement? dili ba na injustice para sa imo naay mga tawo dili makaagi sa judgement day kay na reincarnate while others wala ma reincarnate maong husgahan?

nakasabot ka sa akong pangutana?

the sufferings of life nga ilang ma experience is itself a state of judgment. In this belief system pein walay concept of eternal damnation.

[Pein]

the sufferings of life nga ilang ma experience is itself a state of judgment. In this belief system pein walay concept of eternal damnation.

so dili napud diay ka mutuo ug eternal damnation?

hmmmmmmmmm....