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  1. #61

    Para nako dli ni weaknesses. God is just an insecure element.

    1. He cannot make something greater than himself, nor can he make something heavier than him.
    He/she will not create something greater than him/herself because he/she knows what's the consequences.

    He cannot just kill the Satan [or whatever name].
    He cannot send an angel to whip the most evil man of the century [like Stalin, Hitler, etc],
    because it will make him eternally bored.
    Maybe.

    He cannot make a unified concept about himself [to at least solve the differences in religious theologies
    He already did but his/her rules are not.

    He cannot prevent the priests, ministers, pastors, imams, etc.. from making money [or else the churches will close shops due to poverty]
    Because he/she knows that every individual needs money to survive.

    He cannot be independent with his "divine powers" or else it will make him an ordinary civilian [God has been so dependent with his powers since conception of the "god idea"]
    You can't be god if you're not dependent to your powers.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by kenjoenue View Post
    sentido comon nlang...ikaw rai mka-answer anah....
    ang sayon kay lisod-lisoron man bro,..

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by ta3 View Post
    Para nako dli ni weaknesses. God is just an insecure element.


    He/she will not create something greater than him/herself because he/she knows what's the consequences.


    Maybe.


    He already did but his/her rules are not.


    Because he/she knows that every individual needs money to survive.


    You can't be god if you're not dependent to your powers.


    ngilgig sad ni siya da kay iya gihimo ug babaye,...brilliant ug banggiitan siguro ni siya,..

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by kenshinsasuke View Post
    ngilgig sad ni siya da kay iya gihimo ug babaye,...brilliant ug banggiitan siguro ni siya,..
    huh?
    Did I refer "exclusively" that your god as female? No.
    Did the bible(that you believe) refer "exclusively" that your god as male? No.

    Closed minded ra kaayo ka bai.

    God is imaged in many forms in the Bible — a rock, a wind, she-bears, even a little red hen (Matt. 23:37, Luke 13:34). The Bible describes God as a seamstress (Gen. 3:21); possessing a womb (Jer. 31:20, Isa. 46:3-4); as a woman in labor (Deut. 32:18, Isa. 42:14 John 3:3-7); as a nursing mother (Isa. 49:15, Num. 11:11-14); as a mother with her weaned child (Ps. 121:1-2); as a comforting mother (Isa. 66:11-12, Hos. 11:1-4,8-9); as a mother bear (Hos. 13:6-; and as a midwife (Ps. 22:9), among many other feminine images. Read Paul R. Smith's Is It Okay To Call God Mother? Considering the Feminine Face of God (Peabody, MA: Hendrickson Publishers, 1993) for a thorough discussion of this issue by a Southern Baptist preacher.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by ta3 View Post
    huh?
    Did I refer "exclusively" that your god as female? No.
    Did the bible(that you believe) refer "exclusively" that your god as male? No.

    Closed minded ra kaayo ka bai.

    sorry bai,.,.in Spirit man Siya,..Based sa kato nga verses;ya He reveals Himself in any other forms...


    John 10:30. “I and [my] Father are one.”

    Gen 1:27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.




    source:Is God male or female?


    In examining Scripture, two facts become clear: First, that God is a Spirit, and does not possess human characteristics or limitations; second, that all the evidence contained in Scripture agrees that God revealed Himself to mankind in a male form. First of all, God’s true nature needs to be understood. God is a person, obviously, because God exhibits all the characteristics of personhood: God has a mind, a will, an intellect, and emotions. God communicates, has relationships, and God’s personal actions are evidenced throughout Scripture.



    As John 4:24 states, “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” Since God is a spiritual being, God does not possess physical, human characteristics; however, sometimes figurative language used in Scripture assigns human characteristics to God in order to make it possible for man to understand God. This assignment of human characteristics to describe God is called “anthropomorphism.” Anthropomorphism is simply a means for God (a spiritual being) to communicate truth about His nature to mankind, a physical being. Since man is a physical being, man is limited in his understanding of those things beyond the physical realm, and anthropomorphism in Scripture helps man to understand who God is.



    Some of the difficulty comes in examining the fact that man is created in God’s image. Genesis 1:26-27 says “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”



    What this means, is that both man and woman are created in the image of God, in that they are greater than all the other creations as they, like God, have a mind, will, intellect, emotions, and moral capacity. Animals do not possess a moral capacity, and do not possess an immaterial component like mankind does. Genesis tells us that when man was created by God, God breathed the “breath of life” into man. No other creation is described this way, and that “breath of life” is the spiritual component that man alone possesses. God created man to have a relationship with Him; man is the only creation designed for that purpose, and that “breath of life” is evidence of that.



    That said, man and woman are only patterned after the image of God—they are not tiny “carbon copies” of God, and the fact that there are men and women does not require that God have male and female features, or that God be a woman. Remember, being made in the image of God has nothing to do with physical characteristics.



    We know that God is a spiritual being, and does not possess physical characteristics. This does not limit however, how God may choose to reveal Himself to mankind. Scripture contains all the revelation God gave to man about Himself, and so is the only really objective source of information about God. In looking at what Scripture tells us, there are several observations of evidence about the form in which God revealed Himself to mankind:



    To begin with, Scripture contains almost 170 references to God as the “Father.” By necessity, one cannot be a father unless he is male. If what was meant to be communicated was that God chose to be revealed to man in a female form, then the word “mother” would have occurred in these places, not “father.” In the Old and New Testament both, masculine pronouns are used over and over again in reference to God.



    Deuteronomy 34:10 has this to say about Moses, who wrote the first five books of Scripture, the Pentateuch: “And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,” This verse describes how close Moses’ relationship with God was. Since Moses walked so closely with God, we can be assured that Moses has probably recorded the nature of God and the means by which He revealed Himself to Moses accurately. Moses referred to God with masculine pronouns and with masculine titles in all of his writings.



    Jesus Christ referred to God as the Father several times, and in other cases used masculine pronouns in reference to God. In the Gospels alone, Christ uses the term “Father” in direct reference to God nearly 160 times. Of particular interest is Christ’s statement in John 10:30. He says here, “I and [my] Father are one.” Obviously Jesus Christ came in the form of a human man to die on the cross as payment for the sins of the world, and like God the Father, was revealed to mankind in a male form. Scripture records numerous other instances where Christ utilized masculine nouns and pronouns in reference to God.



    The New Testament Epistles (From Acts to Revelation) also contain nearly 900 verses where the word “theos”—a masculine noun in the Greek—is used in direct reference to God. In most cases, this is rendered “God” in English versions.



    In countless references to God in Scripture, there is clearly a consistent pattern of Him being referred to with masculine titles, nouns and pronouns. While God is not a man, but is a Spirit, He chose a masculine form in order to reveal Himself to mankind. Likewise, Jesus Christ, who is constantly referred to with masculine titles, nouns and pronouns took a male form while He walked on the earth. The prophets of the Old Testament and the Apostles of the New Testament refer to both God and Jesus Christ with masculine names and titles. God chose to be revealed in this form in order for man to more easily grasp who God is. To assert that God chose a female form to be revealed to man is not consistent with the pattern established by Scripture. Again, had God chosen a feminine form, there would be more evidence in Scripture of that. That evidence simply does not exist. While God makes allowances in order to help mankind understand Him, it is important to not try to “force God into a box” so to speak, by placing limitations on Him that are not appropriate to the nature of who He is.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Alel View Post
    So, divine as he is you claim, he rather choose to spare his amusement than spare the well-being of his 'creations'?

    Or you simply failed to understand what Forester meant?

    Weird.


    Alel
    hmm.. what makes you think He's amusing Himself by seeing lots of His children suffer?

  7. #67
    para nako walay weakness ang akong Dios..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox View Post
    hmm.. what makes you think He's amusing Himself by seeing lots of His children suffer?
    Here Bro:

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox

    Quote Originally Posted by Forrester
    3. He cannot just kill the Satan [or whatever name], because it will make him eternally bored.

    if you're a musician, will you destroy your music instrument/instruments so you will get bored? if you do, then you're probably a retard.
    You indirectly liked your god as a musician and Satan as his instruments, didn't you?

    In some extent it seems that you imply that if God did kill Satan, he would be considered a retard.
    Isn't that what you meant to say? Is it? Or were you just asking a question? Then if so, that post would be irrevelevant to the topic. (But if so, I wonder why you quoted number 3 if its completely unrelated to the 'musician' scenario you mentioned.)

    Well, the point is that you just made THAT analogy yourself.


    Alel

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by kenshinsasuke View Post
    ang sayon kay lisod-lisoron man bro,..

    mao jud bro...wlay lingaw....common sense na jud ng mga pangutanang ing-ana...

  10. #70
    god has no weakness. he is the strongest most powerful most perffect human being in the world

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