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[slabdans]

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na unsa na man ta ani...naabot naman mo sa Tinod nga ngan sa simbahan...

OT mangutana ko bi..maayo man gyud mo mopangutana kabahin sa History sa mga atong gituohan,

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unsay ngan sa imong Pinaka LOLO...kanang lolo sa lolo nga lolo pa gyud sa iyang lolo hantud pa gyud sa pinaka lolo sa imong lolo

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Spring .... sa St. Patrick's Cathedral sa Manhattan.. is inside the Church.

Wala ko naka anha pa pod ... maybe one day since NY is really a destination for me . For the last 15 years I lived in the states , wala jud ko naka tunob ug NY .

Anyways , did you mean ang store inside the St. Patricks Cathedral establishment is located where the services ofered by the church at the same time ? Even if it is inside the building/structure but outside the parts of the church where ceremonies/rituals/prayer/sacraments administered are in function , I dont see anything wrong with it . Pero say naa silay stall/booth or cart right next to the pews , or behind the altar or in front of the tabernacle or maybe in the middle of the sacristy then something is wrong.

Ang explanation na buot gipasabot ana is comparable to parts of the house. When we have guest , they know the house has a kitchen where the food are prepared for them to be consumed or they know the house has a bathroom for their hygienic use but they dont necessarily see it as they entertain themselves with the host in the living room .

[EZRA]

Spring... sa sulod gyud sa simbahan .... it's on the lower right hand corner after inig sulod nimo sa Church ... right next to the pews.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Kanang nanubag dre, mga authorize mo na tig tubag sa catholic questions ? Or base lng ni sa nyu nahibaw.an?, , basin ma misleading mug tubag..basig lahi inyu, lahi pod sa ang tubag sa nyu doktrne. .

Regardless of base sa among nahibaw-an or from research .... it is the MAGISTERIUM of the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH .

Therefore walay MISLEADING mahitabo kay usa ra na ka source and usa ra na ka teaching . Not from a FALSE PROPHET of the 21st century and PERSONAL INTERPRETATION the BIBLE but rather from the 2000 year old SACRED SCRIPTURES and SACRED TRADITIONS .

Unhan na lang ti ka ..... dont bring your IGNORANCE and ARROGANCE here .

Just ask your question and move on with the answer . Dont bring your drama here otherwise do your own research through GOOGLE.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

@ EZRA ....

It has remained to be seen and I am really curious about that cathedral .

Gi search nako sa net for some shots to no avail ang interior niya .

If you have the chance .... can you provide pics ? Hehehehehe ..... hasta kana mahasol jud ka pero you dont have to.

So far , mao ra ni mga information nakuha nako :

Saint Patrick's Cathedral On-Line Gift Shop

Visit St. Patrick's Cathedral

Although the 2nd link provides a bird eye view of the parts of the church, the ANNEX GIFT SHOP is nowhere in the vicinity of the area where services are offered and contributes distraction . I could be wrong kay lahi man gyud ang naa didto personally . Though according to the VIRTUAL TOUR of the site , it is :

" The Gift Shop -
The Annex
Located in the Cathedral itself, the Annex is tucked away near the 5th Avenue entrance. The Annex offers a variety of medals, rosary beads and prayer cards. The full selection of gift items available to visitors can be found in the main Gift Shop located across the street in 51st Street."

One thing I can say .... this CATHEDRAL is amazing ! An architectural marvel both inside and out .

[ALBS-lover]

Yeah! Naa. Sa Cathedral kay sa kilid. Di dyud sa sulod. Sa simala sad sa sulod.

Well, I think there are stores to generate income for the church since daghan man bayaran like employees and electricity.. etc.

As for the why sulod sa church. Maybe wa nay available space and diha ra? I donno.

puno ko ani.. if sa gawas sila naay buhis, og mag-abang pa sa space. imbes dapat barato ra ang baligya para dili maka pubri sa mamalit mo mahal mao guro naa nalang sa sulod..

theory lang nako ni

[EZRA]

SPRING... naa sa sulod sa simbahan ang tindahan ... after you go in the door... the tindahan is to your right... people can go in, buy stuff while there's service going on .... been there countless times `cause my wife is Catholic. Ang akong interpretation lang sa Bible is that Jesus got pissed because people were selling stuff inside the temple. St. Patrick's gift shop IS inside the Church itself.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

@ EZRA ...

It could be located inside the church but nevertheless , it is in a conspicious area where it does not at all interfere services .

The link clearly provides a bird eye view but then again , ikaw naka adto and ako wala pa .

Mao ba na ang link na ako gi provide ? Is it the same church/cathedral we are talking about ? Kay basin lahi na church akong gi post hehe . I looked for St. Patricks Cathedral and it shows Archdiocese of NY .

Akong question lang pod .... are the business hours operating while mass is going on or kung walay misa na ? Curios lang ko because its an annex while there is a main bigger giftshop.( Na answer na man diay ni ) Located siya sa foot of the rectangular floor area , annex pa pod so still it qualifies into something na not offensive . It does not at all hinder anything or services.

This time , ang bible verses na gi hisgutan was explained already pod .

[EZRA]

SPRING... the conduct business all day .. with or without services going on. That's just wrong in my book. Regardless if they're selling while there's no service going on or even if it does interfere service or not, it's still inside the Church. You really can't try and find a loophole with some technicalities in this scenario because Jesus really did say what needs to be said... you cannot conduct business in my Father's house - Period. He didn't say you can't make any business transactions while a service is going on or etc... and I think this is the only time that you'll hear/read in the Bible where Jesus lost his cool.

And the gift shop... it's not in a separate room.. it's a Shop inside the church. That's what it is.


That's the same exact Church that you showed in your link by the way.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

But dont you think the picture , in a top view or birds eye view shows it is in an annex ? It is out of the way , not in an interference manner .

Being inside the church has its technicalities of interpretations, not loopholes . Again if we try to make comparisons here , since when eating in the living room is wrong or inside the bedroom when in fact there is a dining room ? Right ? That is because location would not matter anymore as long as it serves its purpose. Looking at this :



It is part of the church structure .



It is in a space conspicious enough to be seen yet away from distracting churchgoers . The distraction comes into mind not because of iits existence but of the unpreparedness of the faithfull in hearing the mass or to whatever services one wants to avail .

In my book , by looking at the birds eye view and description of the annex gift shop of the St. PATRICKS CATHEDRAL , nothing is wrong with it . Not that I am covering it with loopholes nor techniclaities because I am RCC but it clearly manifest that it is a cathedral , by God's grace , ug sayop pa na , hagbay ra na gipasara sa diocese liman ka ug cathedral gud na .

We are now binded na lang sa personal interpretations which collectively does not at all reconcile on what we want but what we thought of .

My theory on that ? The annex will serve its purpose for the church goers . The main gift shop in 51st are for those only want to see the store . Unsay distance sa 2 ? I would not know but it is affirmed by being on separate block / street .

What matters most ? This :

All net proceeds from your purchase sustain the social outreach, educational, and pastoral ministry of the Cathedral, and support the upkeep and maintenance of St. Patrick's.

Regarding the verse about selling inside the temple this is the answer :

Bible Christian POV

What does the Bible say about selling in church?

Roman Catholic Church POV :

And you are right , ST. PATRICK CATHEDRAL is part of it .

Question on gift shops inside certain Catholic Churches - Catholic Answers Forums

One thing is certain .... unless naa siya sa SANCTUARY then that would be the time we say gi bastos sacredness of the church . If that is how you see it Bai Ezra hehehehe , we cant do nothing about it , what is affirmed , for the RCC .... it is just fine .

I just want to call the attention of all , this kind of questions are the ones needed in the thread . Something that makes you wonder and ponder on something . On the different note , kapoy na ug tubag sa uban because of redundancy , pwede ra man matubag unta sa google and lastly , out of mockery .

I suggest for the next question now.