V. Sotto Medical Surgery Spectacle

[forester]

The persons involved are CIVILLY, CRIMINALLY, and ADMINISTRATIVELY LIABLE.

[omad]

yes, i would certainly say nga wa jud koy paki bsta buhaton nako ang angay nko buhaton with a WORLD-CLASS motiff. ang2x naman sad manghilabot sa mga buluhaton sa uban? u should concentrate on what ur doing, otherwise wa juy employer mo hire nimo. ti-orok na lng kas inyo. and of course there should be a standard, a world-class level. first of all, that's the reason US chose pinas because we have the potential to be one (our english advantage is a big, big one!) even there are still big challnges to face. ang2x naman sad mo mentener ka sa level ka2ng nakit an nimo sa sotto. im sure mao na imong ganahan, let it haunt u, deep deep down. FOREVER. [br]_________________________________________________
here you are talking about your “WORLD CLASS� attributes again but in my honest opinion, you’re far from being world class. my point was very simple yet you failed to grasp the logic behind it. reading and understanding simple comments is very vital in any given scenario may it be at the office, school or in your case: the hospital. in fact, deciphering simple instructions can make or break your career. how would you be able to provide WORLD CLASS service if you can’t understand what you’re reading or worse, you can't understand simple instructions? if I get fired for my inability to follow simple instructions then that would haunt me deep down inside and not the other way around.


i again agree with u braader ka2ng nursing board issue. korek ka naglisod jud ang uban, dako kaau tong hassle jud. i have a cousin pa man gli nga nag utang2x ka2 nga time. but did they give up? HELL NO. so what if prc or nclex or your employer sa US decides to let you take again? pili, mag nurse ka or mamaligya na lng kag kuchilyo? kung ganahan jud ka mag nurse sa abroad, ul do everthing to make it happen. no matter how hard it is.

the issue here is not choosing between being a nurse and “mamaligya ug kutchilyo�. how did you come up with that type of comparison? I'm just wondering again if this is one of your WORLD CLASS ANALYSIS in action? it makes me think twice what you actually mean when you're saying world class.

like I said, even before the two incidents happened, landing a nursing job abroad is already difficult and expensive as it is. what with the current backlog with US visas for nurses. another point is, not every one of those affected by the nursing exam scandal have disposable income where they can always absorb financial hits like retaking the exam again. you know first hand the scenario and hardships they’ve experienced and yet they got penalized because of the mistakes of a few individuals, which are very much avoidable like the V Sotto issue.

again, “not giving up and doing everything to make it happen� is not the issue here. it’s the unnecessary repercussions that actions of some individuals have done are making the lives of would be applicants a little harder than it is. I think the word “give up� wouldn’t even be discussed anyway if the Nursing Board cheating and the V Sotto issue didn’t happen.


u say ur anticipating for IMPACT that'd be felt soon. ur correct, it's like lozada! but look at lozada right now, asa naman cya? have u thought about flor contemplacion? ngano preferred man ta sa mga singapore employers more than any other ASEAN countries in terms of it professionals, med workers? sarah balabagan, nganong ang dubai is already the preferred job destination sa ato next to saudi. sa japan, bsan we here japanese nationals are on a threat from crimes here or our japayukis have work issues there? JPEPA? why are they starting to get nurses and caregivers to us? kung ganahan ka, apilon nato c rizal, ngano ang spain already proposes to hire caregivers? cant u just c d glittering gold aside sa sotto incident?

again you’re comparing a totally different scenario with your Jun Lozada , Sarah Balabagan, Japayukis and Rizal examples. you haven’t even explained successfully and convincingly your point in the V Sotto topic and now you’re mentioning a lot of names, a lot of totally different scenarios, a lot of different topics. let's focus on what similar sanctions our medical health care professionals looking for jobs abroad might encounter resulting from this issue and what they can do about it.

remember, nobody in the Philippines anticipated that CGFNS would deny VisaScreen Certification to all June 2006 passers of the Philippine Nursing Licensure Exam but they did. if we talk about IMPACT, that's a very astounding example of how carelessness of a very small number of people can result to a very heavy penalty imposed on everybody including those who are not even part of the scandal.

now, are the people behind CGFNS a perfect example of having PEA-BRAINS because of their blanket denial?


ur absolutely correct bro na being humble doing ur best without mentioning is more appreciated. but u cant just let others say na ang nursing wa nay kaugmaon just because of that incident. im doing my best to defend that this is just an isolated incident and this should not affect the whole med profession. and that's all this forum "istorya.net" can do, mention by typing and posting what's on ur head. kundi puydi pa lng mo tumbling atubangan NIMO wyl gabasa ka ani, y not!

i dont need rithmetic nor job issues to dwell upon, for christ sake. maybe ur just getting more involved on the sotto issue rather on own self bradderrr!

people saying "walay kaugmaon ang nursing" are just basically them showing their frustrations over both incidents. it doesn't mean that it's the case literally and at the same token, you can't prevent them from saying that because this is a free country. the same reason why we're letting you express your reactions here even how far fetched your examples may be. come to think of it, these are actually very avoidable circumstances that's why the uproar on this subject matter.

people here are just looking at the bigger picture and that's not a bad thing either.

[chad_tukes]

tsk tsk...

is it really hard to grasp the logic behind the effect of this so-called SOTTO spectacle? it isn't that difficult to comprehend even a 10 year old would know its effects to the medical and nursing profession. most of you would say it is an ISOLATED incident but it's hard to deny the fact that the media hype that is put on this issue has already made this thing an INTERNATIONAL phenomenon.

indeed, it is easy to say you wouldn't care blah blah blah... the thing is, you guys focus on the NOW... there would be a vague picture as to how it would directly affect YOU as an individual, unless for example you are a recent nursing grad and passed all the exams required, and you find yourself seeking employment in the US or abroad. when an employer turns you down for a job, maka ingon gyud siguro ka "oh, that incident did not affect me in anyway"..

lols ninyo.

[zney25]

lung wa pa ga uwag2x di tana ma ingon ani...

wala man na labot...its his personal doing...dili bya ta kaboot sa tao.....
its the doctors fault...kung napay ethics ang ga opera,dili ma n.ani....

[mustrufnuthn]

so what happened,

the victim accepted the money as an amicable settlement of the case... if he is sure he has a big chance of winning the case, why would he accept the advise of his lawyer have it settled? how about the doctors who were part of this scansal?

[omad]

@omad
i read all your post and looks like you are directly affected by this scam... you're more worried compared with the nurse johnny22aa... if the people around the world are narrow minded and not to think that this is an isolated case, then they will think twice or never hire our nurses and/or doctors... if other countries will never hire our nurses and/or other medical professionals, then its their prerogative... what we can do now is wait for the result of that case filed by the "jan-jan" against the people who he filed with.[br]_________________________________________________

being in a situation where I am helping two of my sisters finish nursing school in Cebu, yes, I am directly affected by this issue. I am working my arse off to make payments for their tuition fees. I'm saving money for the NCLEX of the one who just passed the 2007 Board Exams and at the same time saving for the Board Exams of the other one who will hopefully graduate this year. good if the expenses for both stops there, but sadly, it doesn't. a lot more steps are still being planned and that would require another set of budget even before they set foot in a country of their own choosing to find jobs.

would that explain clearly why I'm very passionate about this issue?

if johnny22aa is not as affected by this scenario like me, then of course, I'll assume that he didn't pay for his tuition fees and other expenses with his own hard-earned money. being a student and a financial provider are two different things. that would more than explain why he's just brushing off this issue like it's nothing. the probability is high that somebody else is working very hard to pay for his fees.

even if I were in his shoes, I wouldn't care as much either. it's not my money in the first place getting wasted here, not my blood, not my perspiration and surely not my arse working hard taking two jobs just to make ends meet. see what I mean?

let's wait until he'll experience being the provider of a nurse who got caught in the middle of the Nursing Board Exam fiasco and the V Sotto situation. let's see if he'll have time to keep his cool and handle the situation the way he's doing right now.

[wawickxz]

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[d`monyita]

[quote=omad ]

@omad
i read all your post and looks like you are directly affected by this scam... you're more worried compared with the nurse johnny22aa... if the people around the world are narrow minded and not to think that this is an isolated case, then they will think twice or never hire our nurses and/or doctors... if other countries will never hire our nurses and/or other medical professionals, then its their prerogative... what we can do now is wait for the result of that case filed by the "jan-jan" against the people who he filed with.[br]_________________________________________________

being in a situation where I am helping two of my sisters finish nursing school in Cebu, yes, I am directly affected by this issue. I am working my arse off to make payments for their tuition fees. I'm saving money for the NCLEX of the one who just passed the 2007 Board Exams and at the same time saving for the Board Exams of the other one who will hopefully graduate this year. good if the expenses for both stops there, but sadly, it doesn't. a lot more steps are still being planned and that would require another set of budget even before they set foot in a country of their own choosing to find jobs.

would that explain clearly why I'm very passionate about this issue?

if johnny22aa is not as affected by this scenario like me, then of course, I'll assume that he didn't pay for his tuition fees and other expenses with his own hard-earned money. being a student and a financial provider are two different things. that would more than explain why he's just brushing off this issue like it's nothing. the probability is high that somebody else is working very hard to pay for his fees.

even if I were in his shoes, I wouldn't care as much either. it's not my money in the first place getting wasted here, not my blood, not my perspiration and surely not my arse working hard taking two jobs just to make ends meet. see what I mean?

let's wait until he'll experience being the provider of a nurse who got caught in the middle of the Nursing Board Exam fiasco and the V Sotto situation. let's see if he'll have time to keep his cool and handle the situation the way he's doing right now.

NA MAO NA! Wa na gani kauli na si Omad. Lechon na lang ang pinapadala in his stead hahahahahaha

Sige dong.... meow away! hahahahaha

[yokam]

Some latest news about the VSMMC scandal

Health office may name 'patient' abusers

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/90593/Su...atient-abusers

Here's a worthy statement for me:

It could range, Madarieta said, from reprimand to suspension or even dismissal and perpetual ban from serving any government hospital.

For her, though, dismissal is too heavy a punishment, as no medical malpractice was committed.

As professionals they should know what's right and ethical. How about doctor-patient confidentiality? The professionalism by those in the video? And worse the possible stain they could give in the RP medical field? For sure such actions would make foreigners doubtful again. Everything seems so lax when it comes to penalties.

Revoking their licenses would be good enough. I really sense something fishy here. What would we expect, a doctor conducting an investigation on a fellow doctor on the same hospital? Hahahah. Humor me.

The palace itself wants to have substantial reports ASAP about the case. Delaying tactics anyone?

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/90577/Pa...n-Cebu-scandal

It's VSMMC against the world this time. Tago pa mo.