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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagami-chan View Post
    Ka init na bah diay sa discussion diri... nag lisod nako apas.. (-_-)
    Taas na dyud kaayo, Ma'am. Daghan daghan dyud ka i back read. Pero ang uban issues ga balik balik raman and only one guy is reviving all the issues that have already been answered so way kahumanan. Never ending story.

    @break You hide your arguments as a friendly discussion but in the end it always leads to RCC and Pope bashing. That's what I have observed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Ratzinger View Post
    Taas na dyud kaayo, Ma'am. Daghan daghan dyud ka i back read. Pero ang uban issues ga balik balik raman and only one guy is reviving all the issues that have already been answered so way kahumanan. Never ending story.
    Mao gani nga mura ga cycle raman issue... And wa ko kahibaw nga ako sad diay gi question kay na discuss nah. It's just that, there are miraculous images sa sto. Niņo, mama mary, ug mga saints... How is that explained man? Sometimes I think that because people believe they are miraculous, na mao naman gud ila gi worship ug maayo...

  3. #6153
    Quote Originally Posted by shockie View Post
    hope you can forgive maam akoa sad ning sabot nga dili maayo ang image sa ginoo iapil2 sa arts to the point nga mahimo nang blasphemy. ang uban magtuo mansad gud nga okay ra.
    Ikaw nalang pag artist Break. Magbuot man ka sa gamugna. Usa pa, problema na na nimo ug mao imong interpretasyon. Paulit-ulit?

  4. #6154
    Quote Originally Posted by shockie View Post
    MOds, akong reaction after ko nimo giban with my breakeven account tungod to sa akong kahiubos nga unfair kayo ka ni deal sa akoa. tungod lang kay naa koy video nga link about secret societies, gipangitaan nako nimog bikil....kadaghan mga OTs didto but why ako raman imong gi trippan?
    Di tungod ato nga gi ban tika... tungod sa after tulo ka warning wa gihapon ka mo patu-o ... daghan nakadawat ug infraction ngadto nga thread pero wala sila mo react nga murag bata preha nimo....

    Pero this wasn't your first time nga ni react ka murag bata ... ni himo sab kag thread against SPRINGFIELD ...

    Then katung kamo ni Rodsky.. pwerteng pabadlong nimo ato.. katung Marine77 pa imong gamit, WordofGod, Santopaps ... pwerte nimong pangaway... pwerteng lalis ...
    Last edited by EZRA; 04-26-2013 at 01:29 PM.


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  5. #6155
    Quote Originally Posted by Kagami-chan View Post
    Mao gani nga mura ga cycle raman issue... And wa ko kahibaw nga ako sad diay gi question kay na discuss nah. It's just that, there are miraculous images sa sto. Niņo, mama mary, ug mga saints... How is that explained man? Sometimes I think that because people believe they are miraculous, na mao naman gud ila gi worship ug maayo...
    Actually, on miracles, the Vatican is cautious on declaring miracles as real and studiohan na maayo. Once ma scrutinize na maayo diha pa na i declare.

    As for gina worship saints and statues maayo kay naa na sa individuals ra. Wala na gi tudlo sa RCC.

  6. #6156
    Quote Originally Posted by shockie View Post
    bro, lainon man ninyog sabot or not basta ni share lang ko about the bible. sorry kung sakit usahay.
    Namakak nasab ka BREAK ... Undanga lagi na imong pagka bakakon. You share youtube videos of conspiracy theories against the Pope and the Vatican ... THEORIES are just Theories unless proven as facts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Ratzinger View Post
    Actually, on miracles, the Vatican is cautious on declaring miracles as real and studiohan na maayo. Once ma scrutinize na maayo diha pa na i declare.

    As for gina worship saints and statues maayo kay naa na sa individuals ra. Wala na gi tudlo sa RCC.
    So meaning naa ra gyud diay na sa individual to do so or not... Will that be considered idolatry too? I've seen these people put on rings and watches on these images... My gut feeling makes me feel that it's just not right. But of course I can't voice that out to them directly.

  8. #6158
    Quote Originally Posted by Kagami-chan View Post
    So meaning naa ra gyud diay na sa individual to do so or not... Will that be considered idolatry too? I've seen these people put on rings and watches on these images... My gut feeling makes me feel that it's just not right. But of course I can't voice that out to them directly.
    I do understand how you feel. Placing watches on Saints and dressing up the Sto. Nino in cops costume and all is also not my cup of tea. Some individuals do misinterpret the veneration of saints and masobrahan ra. But it's not in the teachings of the Catholic church to worship them. As explained earlier mura ra nag naa kay picture sa imo loved one. Diba naa sad tay picture sa presidente and statues and portraits of heroes? Mao sad na sa santo. As a reminder. Not to be worshiped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shockie View Post
    dili man sa panghilabot sis, istoryahan raman na, kung insakto para nato ngano gud masuko man ta, diba? mao bitaw purpose sa forum. bisan pa unsay ma comment, masaway sa uban kung firm jud ta sa atong belief, dili ta matarug. kani para ni sa uban nga wala pa sad kabalo, even me daghan ko nabaloan sad sa inyoha diri. but firm ko sa akong belief nga sakto sad para nako

    peace! ai suko2 kay madaut imong beauty ana.....
    Namakak nasab ka BREAK ....

    ISTORYAHAN? nga mo post kag pila ka videos sunod sunod.. mga conspiracy theories nga wala pa ma proven nga tinuod (mao nga gi tawag ug theory).
    Ikaw, gi scrutinize nako imong integrity, character, etc.... Gi expose nako imong pagka BAKAKON .. nganong reklamo man ka nga tinuod man... The TRUTH HURTS, diba BREAK?

    Di ni mahimo imohang kalaki BREAK kay double standard imong gusto ... if you can dish it out make sure you can take it.
    Last edited by EZRA; 04-26-2013 at 01:52 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagami-chan View Post
    So meaning naa ra gyud diay na sa individual to do so or not... Will that be considered idolatry too? I've seen these people put on rings and watches on these images... My gut feeling makes me feel that it's just not right. But of course I can't voice that out to them directly.
    yes, if you have mature faith.you may call that idolatry

    but just as when we are young, our mother allows us to worship irrelevant things like hello kitty, bruse wayne | Batman on my part

    but as we grow up, our parents enlighten to what is right

    and that's what most priest, now is doing as response to the 2nd Vatican Council

    specially in the Philippines after 400 years of Spanish rule

    wherein most assigned priest here, then were unscrupulous in character ( padre damaso stereotypes and copycats )

    inculcating fear thru misbeliefs of superstition to hold the neck of the populace.

    twisting Real RCC doctrines for their personal gains which had become church dogmas for the little ones.

    i invite you slowly speak the truth, starting in your family.
    Last edited by butitoy; 04-26-2013 at 02:11 PM.

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