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  1. #601

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Bunal
    in Roman Catholic faith, how can one be saved?
    and I wonder why there are requiem masses held even for those who already are confirmed, took "Viaticum" on their deathbed if those two are one of the things that would already have saved them?
    Are you asking or are you assuming?

    Please cite where it is written that confirmation and what you call as 'Viaticum' are two of the things you need to be saved.

  2. #602

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    Are you asking or are you assuming?

    Please cite where it is written that confirmation and what you call as 'Viaticum' are two of the things you need to be saved.
    I'm asking and it's also a trick question I didn't mean two things but I wasn't clear enough that those two are one of the many other requirements of salvation in the RCC.

    So, how are we to be saved? Will it take an exhaustive list of the requirements or can it be summarized? how can one be saved according to the RCC?

  3. #603

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    Hey!Â* That's the only thing you could afford to post?Â* Prove me wrong, bro.
    but you are wrong, friend.

  4. #604

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBiddle
    Hey! That's the only thing you could afford to post? Prove me wrong, bro.
    but you are wrong, friend.
    Then cite your sources - especially the writings of Ambrose, Cyril, Irenaeus and the others you have mentioned.

  5. #605

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBiddle
    Are you asking or are you assuming?

    Please cite where it is written that confirmation and what you call as 'Viaticum' are two of the things you need to be saved.
    I'm asking and it's also a trick question I didn't mean two things but I wasn't clear enough that those two are one of the many other requirements of salvation in the RCC.

    So, how are we to be saved? Will it take an exhaustive list of the requirements or can it be summarized? how can one be saved according to the RCC?
    So, you have not been reading the posts. If you search, you will probably find the answer - and probably not the ones you like.



    Oh, it had come to this. You cannot ask straight questions, so you have come to trick the unwary. Is this your kind of Christianity?

  6. #606

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    Quote Originally Posted by dacs
    So, you have not been reading the posts. If you search, you will probably find the answer - and probably not the ones you like. Oh, it had come to this. You cannot ask straight questions, so you have come to trick the unwary. Is this your kind of Christianity?
    One of the typical methods of anti-Catholic caricaturing and bashing, actually: they dress up bits and pieces of anti-Catholic literature that are so riddled with historical inaccuracies and logical inconsistencies as posts.

    However, once an apologist painstakingly shows the inaccuracies and inconsistencies, they don even bother to defend the assertions that are being questioned-- just conveniently move on with dressing up other bits and pieces of anti-Catholic literature, even more riddled with historical inaccuracies and logical inconsistencies.

    Insults the intelligence, most of the time.

    Pax.

  7. #607

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    So, you have not been reading the posts. If you search, you will probably find the answer - and probably not the ones you like.



    Oh, it had come to this. You cannot ask straight questions, so you have come to trick the unwary. Is this your kind of Christianity?
    As if the unwary aren't already tricked by the Roman clergy.

  8. #608

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBiddle
    As if the unwary aren't already tricked by the Roman clergy.
    Assuming for the sake of argument that the Big Bad Church did deceived the clergy, you believe that excuses your trickery?

    Your accusation of the Church's trickery still remains to be proven though, but you just rationalized and, unwittingly, admitted yours.

    Why don't you continue dressing up the rest of Jack Chick's tracts and posts it here? Humor is the best medicine, after all. Try "Holocaust", this just happen a little over 60 years ago, make us laugh with your "impeccable" historical references and "irrefutable" logical arguments. C'mon, "Jesuits running the Gestapo", "Vatican plot to liquidate all the Jews", "Hitler was a faithful Catholic under papal orders", such juicy anti-Catholic material. Ohh, you sure are pissing rivers in your pants from reading those pack of lies, aren't you?

    Shalom.

  9. #609

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    hala! sir dacs! we meet again master jedi!.... hehehe.

    let me pick up midway.

    im assuming this is the latest - in Roman Catholic faith, how can one be saved?

    hmm. err... why is there so much thinking with the afterlife? i mean...its like...forever. whatever you do now, whether it is in accordance of some divine ineffable plan, the consequence is forever. if you dont make the cut, well boohoo. if you do make it...then woohoo! i think my sentiment can be summed up as: one can never be truly alive if there is no fear of death. so...why bother with the afterlife when at that point theres no where to go anymore. no goal. no meaning. im not saying to have no moral bearing when youre physically alive. im saying, live and let live and let the dead worry about the afterlife.

    question: why do you want to be saved? have you ever stopped to think that the whole notion of saving is a very very resilient religious trend? wouldnt it be better to be good for the sake of being good and not for the fear of the sulfuric flames that will eternally scorch our skinless souls (?)...

    my advise? dont live your life for the sake of being saved. live for the sake of living and be truly alive. help. lie. love. despise.

    *or i could be wrong.

  10. #610

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    @ MALING ... totally agree ... if u act and try to be good so as to avoid hell then God knows it , PLASTIC ka na tao hehehe .... be good because its whats right should be HEAVEN or HELL . No excuses at all .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

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