unsay sabot nimo sa SANTOS-angay ampoan?

[pijavier]

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bwahahahahaha, cge pa cge pa.

naa baya koy verse nga God is everywhere ha. wala ko ni take sides. mo hirit lang

[dieseldust]

^^sakto sad ka bro

[dartzed]

OT: duol nlang jud mahug namo sa pupo ana!!...

back to main topic nata ninyow...

[necrotic freak]

back to topic:

dili ko mo ampo sa santos, dako lang akong respeto nila isip gipakamatyan nila ilang pagtuo..

mao nga mo ingon ko. sa mga santos sa langit, i-ampo mo kami....

[pijavier]

Yeah, I agree, BACK TO TOPIC, cge na Back to topic.

kapoy na gubat.

so unsa may conclusion ani? dili gyud ta angay mo ampo sa mga Santos?

[dartzed]

wala man cguro santos na dapat iworship... mao bataw ana c necrotic freak - "sa mga santos sa langit, i-ampo mo kami...." asa man tawn dha makita na ang santos ang giampo.an oi...

wahehehe

[necrotic freak]

Bible says Saints Are To Be Venerated..

Saints are venerated as they reflect the glory of God. Jn.17: 20-23 “The glory which you have given me, I have given to them.” St. Paul says God honors those who are righteous. Rom.2: 4-11 “For he will give every man according to his works. Those patiently do good works, seek glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life… glory and honor to every one who does good”. Rom.13: 1-7 instructs to “respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due”.

Saints Can Intercede For Us The Greek word for witness is ‘martus’ as it is used in the New Testament. In the Bible, we have the evidence that those who suffered martyrdom, are helping us in our needs before God: “ Therefore since we are surrounded by so great cloud of witnesses’ let us also lay aside every weight” (Heb 12:1-2) We see the prayers of saints are offered to God (Revelation 13:7.) “And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty four elders fell down be- fore the Lamb, each holding a harp and with golden bowels full of incense which are the prayers of the saints”. Saints are aware about what is happening here in the earth: Rev. 12: 10-12 Saints in heaven say “woe to you earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great anger, he knows his time is short” Saints see what is happening here in earth! Jesus himself said the saints and angels in heaven are watching us. “Despise not these little ones because their angels are always seeing the face of the heavenly father” (Mat.18: 10) “There will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents” (Lk.15: 17) It all shows the presence of saints and angels in heaven.

[rcruman]

Bible says Saints Are To Be Venerated..

Saints are venerated as they reflect the glory of God. Jn.17: 20-23 “The glory which you have given me, I have given to them.” St. Paul says God honors those who are righteous. Rom.2: 4-11 “For he will give every man according to his works. Those patiently do good works, seek glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life… glory and honor to every one who does good”. Rom.13: 1-7 instructs to “respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due”.

bible says these?
in JOhn 17:20-23

20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

So ang muhatag og Glory kay ang Ginoo ngadto kang Christ og si Christ iya gihatag ngadto sa iya mga alagad.
So para sa inyoha ang Glory nga gihatag ni Christ kay Veneration nato? so buhi pa ang gihatagan ngano sa inyo patay lagi (granting without accepting for the sake of arguments).

Then in Romans 2:4-11.

4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

ako question sa imoha kanus-a ni mahitabo? karon ba sa ato panahon?

Then in Romans 13:1-7.
Buhi or Patay ang tigaan og honor og respect? kana lang sa aron matubag og unya na ang uban nimong post.

PEace!

[dartzed]

bible says these?
in JOhn 17:20-23

20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

So ang muhatag og Glory kay ang Ginoo ngadto kang Christ og si Christ iya gihatag ngadto sa iya mga alagad.
So para sa inyoha ang Glory nga gihatag ni Christ kay Veneration nato? so buhi pa ang gihatagan ngano sa inyo patay lagi (granting without accepting for the sake of arguments).

Then in Romans 2:4-11.

4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

ako question sa imoha kanus-a ni mahitabo? karon ba sa ato panahon?

Then in Romans 13:1-7.
Buhi or Patay ang tigaan og honor og respect? kana lang sa aron matubag og unya na ang uban nimong post.

PEace!

sakto man ka bro naa you point but.....

bro rc pls post daw sa nga prayers sample na imo nabatian sa mga catholics na mka prove na niampo cla ila giaddress or worship ang mga saints only?...

mao rana dong..

peace sad..

[Cardinal Bunal]

It's not an issue of "mere auxiliary intercessory petitions"... its an issue of how dangerous exalting or deifying another religious persona instead of Christ is....

But when I was kindergarten I was told that God commanded, "You shall have no other gods besides me."

But for some people it's ok...