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  1. #51

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    Quote Originally Posted by kit_cebu View Post
    aren't we born atheists? LOL...

    you ain't christian until baptised.... ouchies.... now, what's your excuse? LOL



    LAWL for you my friend no matter how you hit me with that scaffold..

    youre just only a person who is out of touch with modern fads

    Any credibility youve thought had just got flushed down the toilet.


    ## eyes rolled ##

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangkilan View Post
    LAWL for you my friend no matter how you hit me with that scaffold..

    youre just only a person who is out of touch with modern fads

    Any credibility youve thought had just got flushed down the toilet.


    ## eyes rolled ##
    say what? modern fads?
    look who's missing these days? tsk..tsk..tsk..

    you know who? or you know who.... LOL...

  3. #53

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    ... no kid-talk please, you're throwing worthless and personal attacks already.

  4. #54

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    Quote Originally Posted by kit_cebu View Post
    say what? modern fads?
    look who's missing these days? tsk..tsk..tsk..

    you know who? or you know who.... LOL...


    u dont get it...

    sorry i will not combat my time spending at you in a fruitless Discussion.

    Thank you for wasting 1 minute of my life. reading ur post.


    btw, it is u who qoute first not me ( murag nangitag ehem... )


    aren't we born atheists? LOL...

    you ain't christian until baptised.... ouchies.... now, what's your excuse? LOL
    ^ ^

    zero gyud diay gihapon ka what atheist mean still u dont understand.

    a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being is simply an atheist.


    Pangutana - Kanang bag-ong anak naay ba diay nay bo-ot nga mo deny or mo disbelieve

    of any existence of supreme being. tsk...tsk...tsk...

    Does it define exaclty as an atheist? LOL is that an excuse for you

    fail..! argue with the dictionary not me.



    pardon mods this could be my last post

    - Thank you.


    cheers ! and Peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by kit_cebu View Post
    aren't we born atheists? LOL...

    you ain't christian until baptised.... ouchies.... now, what's your excuse? LOL
    this is a good point.

    now w/in the context of your argument let me share what I think. I think Atheism is a deliberate choice that one made along in this life, it requires maturity and sincerity.


    I know you know this one but for emphasis let me put this in.


    Deliberate

    1. Done with or marked by full consciousness of the nature and effects; intentional

    2. Arising from or marked by careful consideration: a deliberate decision.
    3. Unhurried in action, movement, or manner, as if trying to avoid error: moved at a deliberate pace.
    1. To think carefully and often slowly, as about a choice to be made.
    2. To consult with another or others in a process of reaching a decision.
    v.tr. To consider (a matter) carefully and often slowly, as by weighing alternative


    A new born baby lacks the faculty to decide. to believe in something requires a level of intelligence.

  6. #56

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    .. thanks bisayang_manok for concluding the discussion. you're absolutely right, nobody is born an atheist. We are baptized with whatever religion our parents have, but as far as being an atheist, it's a gradual process, but not everybody can become an atheist, only those who are critical minded will eventually become one.


    .. and to the question; why atheist hate god too much Look, i'll just make it short. It's either there's a God and that God is an absentee landlord, who just watches his creations suffer and thus, he is a cruel God. Or there is no god at all. that's your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fingolfin View Post
    .. thanks bisayang_manok for concluding the discussion. you're absolutely right, nobody is born an atheist. We are baptized with whatever religion our parents have, but as far as being an atheist, it's a gradual process, but not everybody can become an atheist, only those who are critical minded will eventually become one.


    .. and to the question; why atheist hate god too much Look, i'll just make it short. It's either there's a God and that God is an absentee landlord, who just watches his creations suffer and thus, he is a cruel God. Or there is no god at all. that's your choice.
    you are welcome sir.

    you are right, but, I don't agree on the "absentee" and "cruel" part tho, well that's just me. I appreciate this move, at least you gave a multiple choice.

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    .. the "cruel" part is furthered discussed on S&O on that thread: Is God Innocent ?? https://www.istorya.net/forums/philos...-innocent.html

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    arguing is healthy as long as it generates new ideas ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by z3r012 View Post
    arguing is healthy as long as it generates new ideas ^^
    new ideas that often times create confusion.

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