Gwen jealous of Lapu-Lapu for not having a piece of the cake.

[giddyboy]

You are right, they are achievers "for themselves" because of politics and connections but at the end of the day or shall i say term, it is the tangible and long term programs that is what is enjoyed, seen, remembered and benefited by the people.

if we say "achievers" pre in public service, that doesn't mean "for themselves" ky they are public servants man. Though they have connections and political clout, we can't erase the "accomplishments for the people" from the equation. It will be then in each person's perspective if that one in public service did them well or not.

We can always put good leaders in different agencies but if their agency's project and programs are just geared towards "efficiency" and no long term consistent programs or tangible projects to speak of which can be their legacy, these leaders will just fade to dawn.

It is even ironic that the osmenas gave more for their people locally which also has a national impact, more than the higher achieving garcias.

i know that Lito gave a lot of accomplishments during his peak career but sadly, as years went by, he didn't win the hearts anymore of the Cebuano people. His political decisions were a big factor then. IMHO, yes he is a visionary but i could say he is a sly politician. Whatever he visions apil gyud iyang personal motives. Like his mansion atop Busay for example. The road leading to his house was spent on people's millions. As of now, he is insignificant politically.

Let us also note that Cebu was dominated by the Osmenas for decades since Pres. Sergio's time. So it is not reasonable to compare the Osmenas w/ the Garcias with what they had achieved.

Besides, the Osmena name will always stick to the minds of the Cebuanos due to their long-standing history of public service...it's already a given.

what did pablo and gwen do to cebu except being an active real estate agent for cebu province lots?

i don't know what u think but im sure that's not only what they did...

sonny jr.s stint with DOTC? we all know what happened. the department and agencies beneath it are still as corrupt as hell and the system still sucks. no significant change whatsoever there.

that was during Ramos' time. we all know that even up to now, corruption in this agency still hasn't subsided.

The cellphone and their services u are gladly enjoying now is because of him. The entry of other airlines other than PAL is because of him. The new model taxi units u r riding cool now is because of him. The Globe and Bayantel landlines u now have at home is because of him. He virtually erased MONOPOLY from PAL and PLDT from the face of the earth! We should even thank him for those things.

"Jesus B. Garcia was appointed Secretary of the DOTC by President Fidel V. Ramos. Under Garcia, new entrants were allowed in the landline and cellular phone services, dilapidated taxi cabs were also phased out in favor of brand new and late model units."---wiki

winston's gsis stint which is tainted with controversies and failed systems implementation project which has been lambasted by our senior citizens for 3 years now.

Well, i can't say more about Winston regarding GSIS in this thread. Better leave this to the other thread. IMHO, he did very well with a complete turnaround w/ GSIS' finances. The Claims & benefits service is another story.

yes, byron did a good job with CPDRC but for an "achiever" that is a pretty small project. any good manager could have done it.

yes, any good manager could have done it years ago. But why it only took a Byron? AFAIK, there were "good" managers before him. He achieved something nobody have. Just because he is only at CPDRC doesn't mean it is not significant. Why? even businesses started small. Even presidents started small.

The algorithm dances are not only for show. Its an unusual fitness regime, that attracted worldwide attention, it's DISCIPLINE AND REHABILITATION IN ACTION. and that's a feat no other prison facility here has achieved. Its a first in the Phils.!!! a source of envy for others...and the world!!! and that's not small!!! maybe only for u...

well, armi garcia is just simply running the family newspaper business which they acquired from a marcos cronie 2 decades or so ago.

nope. not only is she sitting as board member for Sun.Star, she is now the newly appointed Honorary Consul of Russia...she is partly instrumental in bringing in more Russian tourists and investors here due to increased diplomatic, tourism promotion and cultural exchanges. and the non-visa status for Russian tourists.

here's the link:
Russian Consulate Home

and regarding Sun.Star, what then if they acquired it from a Marcos crony decades ago? Does that make it somehow unacceptable? AFAIK, it is Cebu’s leading daily newspaper, enjoying the largest readership and the larger advertising share. It is a multi-awarded newspaper, counting both local and national awards. It is run by skilled and dedicated journalists. It is also the oldest of the Sun.Star newspapers, having been in continuous publication (daily in English) under the Marcos regime since 1982.

so if u have negative perceptions regarding this newspaper, that's only for you...and not for the millions of Cebuanos who read it everyday.

[LytSlpr]

@godwhacker:


wikipedia? hehehe!!!

[LytSlpr]

public servants lagi but still for themselves. catch my drift?

it's not that lito did not win the hearts of the cebuanos, it was because he made a wrong political decision. that's 2 different things. IMO, he should just have focused on Cebu.

if brokering provincial lots are not the only things that the father and daughter did, then what other things? please enlighten me. both of them for all their terms, has not even improved the facilities and services in the capitol. wa man gani sila nakapatukod ug tarong na hospital sa north ug south para sa mga pobre. it was not the garcias who improved the capitol, it was the osmenas. just like what tommy did to city hall now.

GSIS, better finances? not giving out benefits and claims? it doesn't figure.

you know why BBRC was moved and moved fast and why just now? coz i know.

being a consul? an achievement? i can become a consul if i want, sa country club ra na mag daug and mostly people want to be consul not to serve, but to protect interests. ka gamay ug sweldo anang consul and if she is as good as you say she is, then she could do more than "just" be consul. try to get the profiles of consuls in the philippines, in cebu particular and why you think they are consuls.


as i have said, no real, tangible, long term, significant achievement. they may be good meaning buotan, public servants but they did not do shit. i'd rather have an arrogant or elitist leader, that has visible achievements.

i am sorry, i have nothing personal against the garcias. i don't know them, they don't know me but i have been observing them and some transactions, i have personal knowledge about that's why i am sharing these things. i also have knowledge how the osmenas made money of their projects but again that is SOP in government, at least naa tay nakita. Sa mga Garcias, wala gyud. Nakatukod lagi ug bag-o na jail, pero naa di'ay to dakong, nagpa hi-ping rason and here's the kicker, even Ormocanons don't like Gwen. Just like Cagayanons abhor Pimentel. I know why but it's too personal.

[giddyboy]

public servants lagi but still for themselves. catch my drift?

i know what u mean, but i believe it is both: for themselves (of course, the prestige, power and influence), and for the people they serve (service).

it's not that lito did not win the hearts of the cebuanos, it was because he made a wrong political decision. that's 2 different things. IMO, he should just have focused on Cebu.

wrong political decisions that led the cebuanos losing their hearts for him.

WRONG POLITICAL DECISIONS = LOSING THE HEARTS OF CEBUANOS

get my drift?

if brokering provincial lots are not the only things that the father and daughter did, then what other things? please enlighten me. both of them for all their terms, has not even improved the facilities and services in the capitol. wa man gani sila nakapatukod ug tarong na hospital sa north ug south para sa mga pobre. it was not the garcias who improved the capitol, it was the osmenas. just like what tommy did to city hall now.

hahayz, actually u can just google it by urself but for the sake of argument:

Before Governorship

- she was responsible for instituting various reforms at the Cebu Provincial Capitol as Consultant on Systems Promotion and Development for three years.

- earlier, she was Consultant on Financial Affairs and assisted the then Governor Pablo Garcia in effectively expanding the Province's coffers. (wikipedia)

Governorship

- deputy secretary general for Visayas of the League of Provinces of the Philippines (LPP),
- chairman of the board of the Mactan Cebu Bridge Management Council (MCBMB)
- chairman of the Board of the Mactan Cebu International Airport Authority (MCIAA).
- chairperson of the Regional Peace and Order Council (RPOC-7), the first woman to be appointed to the post.
- created the Provincial Tourism and Heritage Council, a multi sectoral body tasked to promote tourism and conserve our Cebuano heritage, and the Solid Waste Management Board to assist local government units in managing solid waste.
- 3-level water systems, the first towns helped were Bantayan, Madridejos and Sta. Fe.
- road asphalting program of 156 kilometers last 2006 that benefited all towns and cities in the province.
- Philhealth indigent enrollment program was offered to all towns, providing insurance to all barangay tanods and barangay health workers in all towns and cities.
- 400,000 indigent individuals (2006) have been given healthcare insurance in partnership with the municipalities and cities.
- new concept: outsourced medical manpower to a private provider resulting to 100% manning in all 18 district hospitals in the province, including those in the islands.
- concocted the idea of “One Cebu”, which stands for Obra Negosyo-Countryside Enterprise Business Upliftment, an exhibition of locally-made products (at CICC) that will later turn international.

and when interviewed w/ the question:What do you see for the province in the next decade or so? How much of what you see will you be a part of?

My vision is quite clear: Cebu as the center of tourism, information and communications technology and services in this part of the region. On the infrastructure side: 400 kilometers of asphalted provincial roads; a Level-3 water system in every barangay; 100% electrification of all sitios. In health, four Philhealth-accredited provincial hospitals in the north, south, east and west. And in healthcare, 100% indigent enrollment. My role is to begin at the beginning. The end is only a distraction.(source: 23 of cebu's most influential people, sun.star)

GSIS, better finances? not giving out benefits and claims? it doesn't figure.

yes, better financial management. But regarding Claims & Benefits, that's another story coz it is the operational aspect of management, not financial.

you know why BBRC was moved and moved fast and why just now? coz i know.

well, u tell me why.

being a consul? an achievement? i can become a consul if i want, sa country club ra na mag daug and mostly people want to be consul not to serve, but to protect interests. ka gamay ug sweldo anang consul and if she is as good as you say she is, then she could do more than "just" be consul. try to get the profiles of consuls in the philippines, in cebu particular and why you think they are consuls.

u cannot just be a consul if u want. u have to get appointed by the President herself. op kors, dili pa makita iyang agi (as a consul) ky she was just recently appointed as one.

and FYI, there is a big underlying reason why she deserves the position. before she was made consul, since the 1980s, Consul Garcia has worked tirelessly as a private citizen to promote cultural exchange between both countries, organizing art exhibits and international conferences that aided in bridging the gaps in understanding and nourishing a blossoming friendship that has enabled trade and political missions to become successful. (i know this is true coz i worked for her for a couple of years a few years ago)

now u tell me if that's not an achievement...

here's one more of her big accomplishments (for the people ha): she institutionalized Cebu Fashion Accessories Manufacturers and Exporters (Cebu-FAME). and i don't need to explain why it's "big".

as i have said, no real, tangible, long term, significant achievement. they may be good meaning buotan, public servants but they did not do shit. i'd rather have an arrogant or elitist leader, that has visible achievements.

read my above posts. coz maybe u just didn't know.

i am sorry, i have nothing personal against the garcias. i don't know them, they don't know me but i have been observing them and some transactions, i have personal knowledge about that's why i am sharing these things. i also have knowledge how the osmenas made money of their projects but again that is SOP in government, at least naa tay nakita. Sa mga Garcias, wala gyud. Nakatukod lagi ug bag-o na jail, pero naa di'ay to dakong, nagpa hi-ping rason and here's the kicker, even Ormocanons don't like Gwen. Just like Cagayanons abhor Pimentel. I know why but it's too personal.

so if u don't have anything personal against the garcias, and the fact that u admitted ur limited knowledge about them, pls do some research first before making any conclusions...tnx

[godwhacker]

@godwhacker:


wikipedia? hehehe!!!

Yeah! I found them more convincing and legitimate than your heresies. hehe

[LytSlpr]

Yeah! I found them more convincing and legitimate than your heresies. hehe

that is your opinion, hehe!!

[LytSlpr]

@giddyboy:

i am sorry but i still don't catch your drift about lito and the cebuanos. there are a lot of good politicians that lost an election but not necessarily because they lost the hearts of their constituents. the way i saw, it is because he ran for VP, apparently lost some money as well as his age. he probably thought he has done enough for cebu. he let his wife run as governor while he ran for VP just in case he lost the slot but his wife personally did not have the hearts of the cebuano and i can vividly remember the notion, "unsa ang cebu, kusina? kay ibilin sa asawa." as i have said, that was a wrong political decision. you have to admit, voters in this country can be stupid.

GSIS? better financial management? it still doesn't figure and somehow it is very safe to say that majority of the citizenry particularly the beneficiaries don't believe that. Winston is the GSIS "manager", the top man so to speak so he covers or should cover claims and benefits. remember the saying, "people will not remember what you did but how you made them feel." well right now, Winston legitimately let the beneficiaries feel "shitty".

i still don't find those as REAL accomplishments as a governor. being "the governor" it is only natural for you to head most of those agencies (regardless of gender) which she has not thing really to show for and the philhealth and roads if you come to think about it is a national government initiative. as a governor who expanded the coffers of the province and as she always claim, "zero-debt", what did she do with it if she is really that dynamic? BTW, gwen is good at interviews and photo ops but her quotes, captions and speeches are not original, puro kinawat sa libro. maka-katawa gud usahay kay obvious kaayo and dili "mura'g tunay" pagka-deliver. some leaders can pull it off but not gwen.

BBRC was moved to pave the way of selling the old Lahug Airport and Camp LapuLapu to the Ayalas even up to PC Hills.

obviously, Nelia Cruz-Sarcol can be consul if she wants. i know you know what I mean. we are a member of Cebu FAME since 1990 but Garcia's name did not ring a bell or probably I was just uninformed or she was just insignificant. Cebu FAME's success cannot be attributed to her alone because it was bound to succeed just like other export organizations in Cebu.

still i do not find a significant thing that the Garcias made for Cebu. I am looking for something like a train system, IT infrastructure for the entire province, subsidized water and electricity for the province, better hospitals, better police system, something that can "wow" the people of Cebu. If the Garcias did something like that, please care to bring it to my attention. thanks daan! You mentioned district hospitals, are they "better" now? I don't think so.

i do not need to make some research because if a group of people or a person did something significantly good, people will know it right off the bat and associating with the likes of Radaza and Ouano doesn't leave a good taste in my mouth. Supposedly being a good leader, Gwen should know better. The Osmenas (excluding Sonny) never needed to "lean" to other political clans to further their political ambitions. They do and stand on their own and exercise their own political principles and vision. In my opinion, this is what sets them apart from other political families in Cebu, not only from the Garcias. I thought Pabling was a genuine statesman but in some of his stand in congress he is apparently a commercial lobbyist.

The Garcias are even more educated than the new generation of Osmenas and more personally accomplished but what did they REALLY DO for Cebu? I am not biased or trying to be blind nor do I have a personal connection with the Osmenas, pero wa lang gyud ko'y nakita nga klarong agi gikan nila para sa Cebu.

[LytSlpr]

Say what you like bai... Not here to argue...

Feedbacks lang na akoa nga majority dli ganahan ni Gwen ug sa mga Garcias ky tikasan, plastic unya kurakot from my fellow nurses and doctors employed in her agency Powerline, jeepney drivers, LGU workers, our patients in the hospital, even our helper nagsulti grabe pamayaray ni Gwen atong election sa probinsya ala Atan Guardo...

Only the gullible and the ignorant ang ma dala sa mga pa O.A. anang mga Garcia ug ego-tripping ni Gwen...

Disdain is not synonymous with envy bai...

Those who "know better" and have direct involvement with them or have been a victim knows what they really are. Wa gyud ko'y anything personal anang mga Garcias but, klaro kaayo uy.

Even with their spat with Tomas, Gwen's defenses and alibis are not on the table. Si Gwen maglikay-likay or iyang comment binata kay punto por punto, wa man gyud siya'y matubag sa mga bomba ni Tomas niya. In Gwen's speeches, she always mentions her spat with Tomas and calls him a bully, as if she is capitalizing on that. Personalities aside, who do you think is the real bully, Cebu City or Cebu Province? Any logical and objective person knows the real answer to this question.

Tomas on the other hand doesn't mention his problems with the province in his speeches (which he rarely does) not unless asked about it during interviews.

[giddyboy]

@giddyboy:

i am sorry but i still don't catch your drift about lito and the cebuanos. there are a lot of good politicians that lost an election but not necessarily because they lost the hearts of their constituents. the way i saw, it is because he ran for VP, apparently lost some money as well as his age. he probably thought he has done enough for cebu. he let his wife run as governor while he ran for VP just in case he lost the slot but his wife personally did not have the hearts of the cebuano and i can vividly remember the notion, "unsa ang cebu, kusina? kay ibilin sa asawa." as i have said, that was a wrong political decision. you have to admit, voters in this country can be stupid.

well, sorry to tell u this but he lost BOTH. Lito lost the elections and the hearts of cebuanos.

wanna know how and why? Coz it's not because he ran for VP.

in 2004, he threw support for Roco saying "we don't want another Gloria". but in spite of his efforts, over a million Cebuano voters ignored Osmeña's endorsement for Roco and voted for Arroyo instead. Roco, who was then ill with cancer, who also suffered a setback over a public relations blunder in Cebu received less than 5% of Cebu's votes in the 2004 general election.

The loss of Roco was a major embarrassment for Osmeña and was clear evidence that his influence with the people of his province had weakened significantly.

Osmeña was also a staunch idealist and vigorously promoted his Republic of Cebu plan, but it was forgotten and lost virtually all support it had.

in 2007, Osmena endorsed Antonio Yapha and Clavel Martinez for Cebu guv and vice-guv in a bid to replace the current Garcia admin. Despite his strong support for the challengers, both Yapha and Martinez suffered landslide defeats to their respective opponents.

(source: wikipedia)

Simply put, Cebuanos don't listen to him anymore. and if kung dili na maminaw niya, pasabot wala na clay h-e-a-r-t niya. that's elementary my dear...

GSIS? better financial management? it still doesn't figure and somehow it is very safe to say that majority of the citizenry particularly the beneficiaries don't believe that. Winston is the GSIS "manager", the top man so to speak so he covers or should cover claims and benefits. remember the saying, "people will not remember what you did but how you made them feel." well right now, Winston legitimately let the beneficiaries feel "shitty".

ngano di man ka ka figure or believe sa financial performance sa GSIS nga its already a given na man? or just don't want to believe?

im not defending in any way Winston here but im just addressing facts. Yes, he did very well sa financial performance but not well with the services to the members.

"people will not remember what you did but how you made them feel."...and i believe this too.

i still don't find those as REAL accomplishments as a governor. being "the governor" it is only natural for you to head most of those agencies (regardless of gender) which she has not thing really to show for and the philhealth and roads if you come to think about it is a national government initiative. as a governor who expanded the coffers of the province and as she always claim, "zero-debt", what did she do with it if she is really that dynamic? BTW, gwen is good at interviews and photo ops but her quotes, captions and speeches are not original, puro kinawat sa libro. maka-katawa gud usahay kay obvious kaayo and dili "mura'g tunay" pagka-deliver. some leaders can pull it off but not gwen.

natural? no, i don't agree w/ that argument. Kung governor ka, it doesn't mean u will automatically or naturally be chairman of those agencies especially if ang scope is Visayas or region 7!!! botaran baya na...

well, im not really sure what kind of accomplishments u r looking for. op kors, any provincial projects is usually a national initiative. But that also applied to Lito's time.

if u base ur expectations like from Lito, here is what he accomplished:

- Osmeña was able to increase the provincial budget to 1 billion pesos per annum. (well, Guv Garcia also expanded the province's coffers to zero-debt)

- He made possible the construction of flyovers and causeways, and purchased heavy equipment that caused the opening and maintenance of several barangay roads and bridges as well as the farm-to-market roads. (well, we are still seeing more infra projects up to now, don't we?)

- Osmeña launched a Water Distribution Program in the entire island, making water available to 90% of the population, as opposed to the 56% before his incumbency. (well, Guv Garcia also has the 3-level water systems)

- Osmeña initiated the modernization of Cebu's International Airport. He also initiated direct flights from Cebu to the different parts of the world. (well, salute ko ani, but Cebu as the natural center of gov't, it is already expected that MCIAA should go international. Also note that Gwen's cousin, Sonny Garcia was instrumental in erasing the PAL monopoly)

- He was elected as Chairman of the League of Governors of the Philippines from 1990 to 1992. (salute pud ko ani)

so all these accomplishments given by Lito, Ok man kau. Pero u cannot just also undermine Garcia's. Ky naay projects ni Garcia nga mao2x ra kang Lito. Naay puy projects ni Gwen nga wala pud c Lito, or vice versa.

so u tell me what's "real" accomplishments diay ni Lito imong nakita, aber?

BBRC was moved to pave the way of selling the old Lahug Airport and Camp LapuLapu to the Ayalas even up to PC Hills.

so? why not? BBRC transfer was long overdue anyway...

obviously, Nelia Cruz-Sarcol can be consul if she wants. i know you know what I mean. we are a member of Cebu FAME since 1990 but Garcia's name did not ring a bell or probably I was just uninformed or she was just insignificant. Cebu FAME's success cannot be attributed to her alone because it was bound to succeed just like other export organizations in Cebu.

well, perhaps u can ask Nelia Cruz about Ms. Armi...im sure u will hear a lot of nostalgic stories. Nope, she is not insignificant, mind u. She still sits as a board trustee sa FAME. So don't tell people particularly sa taga Cebu FAME nga "insignificant" cya ky surely masagpaan gyud ka... Clearly, u are just UNINFORMED. Kuwang sa research. op kors, she didn't do it alone, but she was VERY INSTRUMENTAL. U can also ask those pioneers sa industry like Sir Pete Sepulvada, Sir Ramir Bonghanoy, the Carungays (C Sir Butch nlng ky patay naman c Sir Caesar), Mam Marose Soberano, ug uban pa.

and i don't agree w/ "bound to succeed" coz u make it seem like it just existed for the sake of existence without factoring in leadership. That's a BIG NO. 'Coz any type of organization or association needs strong leaders and hardworking members to make it successful for the good of the industry as a whole. Just like sa Cebu furniture exporters. Just like sa Cebu GTH.

Look what happened to Manila-FAME, it flopped. Look what happened to Manila-GTH, same. Look what happened to Manila furniture, same. so what u r saying export orgs are "bound to succeed" is a fallacy.

still i do not find a significant thing that the Garcias made for Cebu. I am looking for something like a train system, IT infrastructure for the entire province, subsidized water and electricity for the province, better hospitals, better police system, something that can "wow" the people of Cebu. If the Garcias did something like that, please care to bring it to my attention. thanks daan! You mentioned district hospitals, are they "better" now? I don't think so.

train system? u mean LRT/MRT? hehe wa man gani kahimo c Tomas pa ana...besides, murag dili paman na feasible dire Cebu. BRT nuon mas motuo ko. How about the Marcelo Fernan Bridge? u think it's not significant? How about the CICC and the Asean Summit? still not significant?

IT infra? para syudad raman intawn na tingali oi. if u r talking about internet accessibility, naa nay Wifi gani sa probinsya sa amoa. Subsidized water sa province? naa pre, dugay nana sa LGU's. Electricity? Haven't u heard yet of CEBECO, a coop? dugay napud na. Better police system? u tell that to the PNP.

as for district hospitals, yes, it is a little better now due to outsourced manning. pero at least naa. did Lito during his time even bothered for district hospitals? Nope.

and btw, Cebuanos don't need to be "wowed".

Supposedly being a good leader, Gwen should know better. The Osmenas (excluding Sonny) never needed to "lean" to other political clans to further their political ambitions. They do and stand on their own and exercise their own political principles and vision. In my opinion, this is what sets them apart from other political families in Cebu, not only from the Garcias. I thought Pabling was a genuine statesman but in some of his stand in congress he is apparently a commercial lobbyist.

hahaha. u think u r very sure on the "NEVER needed to lean" part?

FYI, in some point, Lito leaned on the Rocos, the Yaphas and the Martinezes. and do u think Lito wasn't also a commercial lobbyist during his time? so u should exclude him in ur list. Serge III leaned on the powerful Lopez clan. and because of that, he is also a commercial lobbyist. so u should exclude him also. and your Sonny O? aw ayaw nlng ky all of the above gyud na cya....AND i didn't even mention yet John2x O...

so who is left here? aw c Tomas nlng cguro...(lalisonon pa gani na ha)

so REALLY, there's nothing special that sets apart the Osmenas from the Garcias or other political clans. well, except lng cguro ky nka Presidente cla ug Osmena sauna w/c they used the "Osmena name" to their advantage up till now PERCEPTION-WISE. Mao nay nka dakong deperencya.

The Garcias are even more educated than the new generation of Osmenas and more personally accomplished but what did they REALLY DO for Cebu? I am not biased or trying to be blind nor do I have a personal connection with the Osmenas, pero wa lang gyud ko'y nakita nga klarong agi gikan nila para sa Cebu.

ani nlng. kay wa man kha ka kita ug agi sa mga garcias, ug ambot lng sab kung unsa poy nakita nimu sa mga osmenas, but one thing lng is sure: CEBU IS PROGRESSING MORE RAPIDLY OVER OTHER PLACES in the country. Cebu is attracting more tourists and investors than ever before. U can credit that to our political leaders, or the Cebuanos as a whole...i believe on both.

[LytSlpr]

I get your point and we can agree to disagree but when Lito did it, it was from scratch that's why he was a visionary. If you come to think of it, basing on what you mentioned, ang mga project ni Gwen nag tongtong sa old accomplishments ug ideas ni Lito.

That's the feat that I am looking for in Gwen which she has never done yet.

Police system? The LGU has power over them. Marcelo-Fernan bridge which a zero-debt province can't even maintain and has to depend on the private sector to pay the bill for the street lights? I believe that was already in the drawing board even before she became governor and was not a province initiative.

The corruption tainted ASEAN summit you say? and the obiviously hao-siao constructed CICC nga pwerting bati-a pagkabuhat unya daghan kaayo ug VALID controversies ug questions on irregularity pag construct.

When I was there and tita Gwen gave a speech among the Cebu Chamber, she said, "Welcome to this magnificent and glorious structure..." Guess unsa'y reaction sa mga tawo? Halos tanan ng yam-id and I am not exaggerating. Basta ako, I went to the bathroom right after.

BTW, GGC which Gwen is CEO before public office is in the list of blocklisted contractors. How ironic can that be?

Last question about Gwen, why don't Ormocanons like Gwen? For sure that you know that as a fact.

Wa sad gyud ko nakakita anang first gentleman sa probinsya sa sugbu.

Regarding Armi, take note I said Cebu export organizations because I know that the export industry there is very alive and the people are very dynamic that's why I said it was bound to succeed, with or without Armi just like the Cebu Chamber and I am aware of what happened to Manila FAME and other export orgs there.

Regarding GSIS, it is moot and academic that if the finances are okay the releasing of benefits should be okay. Remember, that Winston is THE BOSS in GSIS so di ka maka-ingon nga na'ay kwarta, pero way release2x ug benepisyo because that doesn't make sense. Otherwise, the so called financial comfort of GSIS now is just a mirage, in short drawing ra sa media.

On BBRC, so wala gyud nabalhin kung wala'y personal interest ang mga Garcia.

On Sonny Garcia, lifting the monopolies is not the DOTC secretary's call, it was a the decision of the president. A mere department secretary can't pull of things like that. Same with the entry of other telcos.