Comp Sci & Comp Eng'g: Dapat ba nga tagaan ug board exams?

[Tin_Tin]

---

walay board ang compE... pero if mao imo reason na mu shift ka kay hilig ka ug computers nya hobby nimo is to repair computers ur in for a SURPRISE... dili kaayo about PC's ang compE... wala man gani mi subject sa una na mag repair ug PC or a subject which gives u more idea on PC's sa usc sa una hehehe try to ask around sa kay dili jud ni mao imo sudlan

i agree. . . forget about the usual computer and note its an engineering course its not bound to be easy. . .

[christa]

hala! naa lagi c charles!? hehe

yep..its true way board exam ang comp.e .
pero naa dghan certifications na pwede nimo i-take.. pili lang ka kung unsa imong i-specialize na field..either software, digital systems or computer networks ..nya daaghaann kaaug exams/certifications na imo ma-take.
Technically its not a "board exam" since di man cya under sa PRC. pero mao !, sak2 c shogunfreak,
" pero makamatay ang certifications"
di japon ka-kompyansaan oie.. hehe

[manick]

uu walai board CoE kusog ra kau ang innovation pro nai mga certification to assess ur skills

hala! naa lagi c charles!? hehe

yep..its true way board exam ang comp.e .
pero naa dghan certifications na pwede nimo i-take.. pili lang ka kung unsa imong i-specialize na field..either software, digital systems or computer networks ..nya daaghaann kaaug exams/certifications na imo ma-take.
Technically its not a "board exam" since di man cya under sa PRC. pero mao !, sak2 c shogunfreak,
" pero makamatay ang certifications"
di japon ka-kompyansaan oie.. hehe

taga USC ka?

[christa]

lagi mao jd.. di man sila ka standardized gd kay computer technology is always upgrading.. mao na way board exam..

yes.. taga USC ko.. idol na nako c charles! nyahaha

[insik24]

i think it is not because of the fast changing technology that's the cause of CompE not having a board exam. If that were the case, ECE would not require a PRC license too as technology in the field of ECE is changes so fast too, so with ChE.

There reason behind this is that there is no standard curriculum for CompE. USC's CompE is not the same with USJ-R's, CIT's, UC's and etc. This is considering the schools in Cebu only ha..there are still a lot of Universities in the Philippines that have CompE. There are some that focus of Software Development, some of Networking, some on Digital Designs. Unlike ECE, CE, ChE, EE, all these disciplines have a standard set of subjects w/c is regulated by CHED.

For those who are CompE students, the topics taught in the subjects you are taking up today, are the same topics that were taught 10 years ago..so where's the fast changing technology about that? cge lang gyapn mo ug MOV noh? or printf? of Flipflops? decoder? addressing? waterfall method? hehehe None of the new technologies today are being taught. The difference 10years ago w/ today, is that teachers now use LCD projectors..lolz. Naa gamay difference tinuod but dili gyud kaau dako na we can say, uptodate with today's technology.

[st.anger]

lagi mao jd.. di man sila ka standardized gd kay computer technology is always upgrading.. mao na way board exam..

yes.. taga USC ko.. idol na nako c charles! nyahaha

sakto jd... usc-tc compe2005 here

[camille_16]

every school, kay lain-lain man og language ang gamit oi!
pero, sa case sa comp scie, nindot unta, kung moGradwar na ba, ang pangalan kay COMPUTER SCIENTIST <name>

para nice pud bah, pareha gud sa comp eng'g, ENGR..
comp scie pud unta to oi!

[One_Ted]

I dont think nga dapat sila tagaan ug board exam, kay dili pa man gud na stable nga course. naa daghan mga bag-o bah.. unlike sa uban course nga naa na jud stable standards.. just my opinion

[eric21]

Personal insight: There should be no board exam for the two degrees. I agree to most of the people here that digital world changes every now and then. maglisod ug paghimo standardization para sa duha ka course. But it's not a bad thing. In fact, nindot nga alay board kay pirmi ra ma update ang curriculum para ma tagaan sa need sa mga industry. Kung imo man tagaan standardization, murag maglisod ka ug update sa curriculum nimo kay kinahanglan patas tanan para ma answer sila sa board exam. Musamot ta ka biyaan sa mga comp sci and electronics and computer engineering sa gawas. Advanced na baya kaayo ang uban nasud.

Kung alay standardization, an institution can update their compe as much as they can as long as naa silay kwarta ug i train ug maayo ang mga instructors. Pero naa pod disadvantage ana.. ang mga skwelahan nga dili ka update kay alay kwarta, mabiyaan jud sila.

I think that is the reason too that some schools including usc, daghan mga bata nga mga instructors sa compe and comp sci kay mga fresh pa huna2x. ma intake pa nila ang mga trainings sa mga kinahanglan ipang train.

For those who are CompE students, the topics taught in the subjects you are taking up today, are the same topics that were taught 10 years ago..so where's the fast changing technology about that? cge lang gyapn mo ug MOV noh? or printf? of Flipflops? decoder? addressing? waterfall method? hehehe None of the new technologies today are being taught. The difference 10years ago w/ today, is that teachers now use LCD projectors..lolz. Naa gamay difference tinuod but dili gyud kaau dako na we can say, uptodate with today's technology.

I am a compe graduate bai. Yup. sakto ka. mao ra gihapon ang topics. Pero dili pasabot nga gamay ra difference. The topics nga imo gi mention are just the fundamentals of computer engineering sa usc. the rest, mao na na ang gi update every year. I think, 10 yrs ago, ala pa mu MatLab para control systems and fundamentals of Robotics. karon, naa na.. Im not sure kung naa na mu control systems. VHDL sad, wala pa sad mo ana sa una. karon naa na. interfacing sa una, pci cards inyo gamit. karon, mu discuss gihapon mi pci, pero ang sa laboratory, interfacing na using parallel connection (DB 25). And i heard this year or next year, they will start uscing usb as their interfacing

Sa software engg, naa ra gihapon ang mga paradigm, ang SAD, ang basic programming, advanced programming. C ra man mo taman siguro. kung naa na mu java, basics lang. Karon, ang curriculum sa compe, naa na Java. 3 topics: Basic, Advanced, J2EE. OS sa una, lahi karon. Naa na sad Visual C++ sa ilang curriculum... etc.

Sa network side sad, ang network protocols gi discuss ra gihapon. pero karon, naa nay actual laboratory. I think sa una theories pa man to. KAron, naa nay devices gi acquire sa school to appreciate the network protocols. I heard that they are tapping NORTEL. And i think second sem magsugod na sila discuss sa students. Also swtiches hubs routers.... pati GATEWAYS that cost 10s of thousands, gi acquire para experimentuhan sa students.. pwede gani siguro nila ukabon. hehe

These are the only things nga ako nahinumduman ug akong naabtan wen college pa ko. So is it only a minor difference? or what?

And mao ni ang development sa USC pa lang, ang uban schools i believe they are also making a step on their own to let them be updated.

[Maikeru]

I also go with no board... I agree with eric21, if naa board moSamot kabiyaan ang curriculum sa school from the industry. Since technology is moving fast, even concepts changes every now and then. For example, the Internet, look how fast the internet evolve from 1960s to later years. Before it was just simple text and formatting. But now, we have lots of technologies behind it, say we have AJAX, RIAs, CSS and etc. For those people who think that board is necessary for these courses, I think you should take a second good look on IT field and reconsider.

Insik24 may have said that the only difference from 10 years ago and now is teachers uses LCD projectors today and before was quite "stone aged" techs.. What is being taught in school may or may not be the same with what was taught 10yrs ago, but i just want to point out something.. Industry doesn't depend on schools, but it is vice versa. And we can't really deny, Industry is quite far off from 10yrs ago from now. one little side note.. School is trying to inline itself to industry. So how can you set a standard to an ever changing field?

"Computer programming is tremendous fun. Like music, it
is a skill that derives from an unknown blend of innate
talent and constant practice. Like drawing, it can be
shaped to a variety of ends – commercial, artistic, and
pure entertainment. Programmers have a well-deserved
reputation for working long hours but are rarely credited
with being driven by creative fevers. Programmers talk
about software development on weekends, vacations, and
over meals not because they lack imagination, but because
their imagination reveals worlds that others cannot see."

From the book, "Thinking in C#"