conspiracy theories

[THE SKULLS]

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Hahaha, absent kapirmi sa physics bro?

I was offered to take Physics Doc during college. I find it very amusing and interesting. Same sad sa side sa Professor. Exchanging of ideas ba. Having fun while learning. Thanks to Richard Gere (Physics 2) dili ni cya mao ni-offer nako take BS Physics, kadtong tiguawng nga mag-antiyohos. Physics 1 and Physics 33. Kalami nga mga subjects. Hahay.

dili ka ka projectile sa space kay walay gravity didto.

Ideally, ang space daw, vacuum. Wala sad gravity daw. Kay kung naa, sayop diay tong mga maestro nga nagtudlo nga mao na. Pastilan.
But in reality, naa jud gravity pulling/holding each planet. Kay kung wala, pastilan, mura'g bilyards.

dili sad ka kapaandar bastabasta og counter thrust sa vacuum kay mo tailspin ka.
kung magpataka kag paandar og rocket nga walay resistance sa ubos motuyok ni ang module.
mamatay ning mga astronauts sa pagsinuka.

let's just take a closer look sa mga satellites Doc. sa pagmaintain nila sa orbit sa earth ba. gagmay ra baya ng sikad ana kay paspas man sad lagi ang velocity.

na-interes naman nuon ni na topic.

[rodsky]

ako gi-back read, ngita ko adto post ni rodsky about kadtong routing sa module towards the moon.

Nganong SPECIFIC man kaayo inyong pagpangita sa "ROUTING" when EVERYTHING and ANYTHING shot towards the moon is affected by Newtonian Laws? Whether lunar module pa na, or whatever spacecraft, unmanned or manned, AFFECTED gihapon na siya sa rules of TLi and LOI. Para dili na ko ug kamo mag kalas kalas ug type, please review this before discussing your wrong views:

Step 1: Getting to the moon (TLi)
Trans Lunar Injection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Step 2: Inserting into Lunar Orbit (LOI)
Lunar Orbit Insertion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Apollo Flight Journal - Lunar Orbit Insertion

Step 3: Now let's go back to the Earth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_Earth_Injection

Now, the only time you can really make a dent in the argument is to read ALL THAT, UNDERSTAND/DIGEST it, and tell me if your views are still the same--because if you don't agree with me, then I will truly wonder how you guys passed your high school and/or college physics. Ako gani hapit na di ka graduate ug high school because of Physics (but then I was enrolled in a science high school, very tough), kamo pa kaha nga mga electronic engineer ug chemical engineer, AB English lang intawon ko unya kamo dili kasabot sa basic principles of Newtonian physics??

Reminds me of what Vern wrote on his avatar.*shakes head*

-RODION

[THE SKULLS]

It's called inference, a rule of logic. Even if one didn't say it, one would basically assume:

C = A + B

D = A + B

therefore C must equal to D

OK for the rule of assumption. But we don't assume here.

By that statement, one is basically saying that one believe that the probes weren't faked. Okay. But then, if the probes aren't faked, what makes you think the Lunar Module was faked?

both statements are correct Rods.

And how would you like to compare Unmanned Probe to Lunar Module?
Can you use the analogy using a simulation or RC flying?

Real Flight : Fear of crashing (same with real RC flying)
Simulation: It's up to you rods.

Listen, the mass of the Russian ZOND probe (a modified Soyuz) is almost equal to the Lunar Module, and that probe was able to reach and orbit the moon...so Doc, if nag work ang ZOND, what's keeping the Lunar Module from working around the lunar orbit too? Tungod lang kay naay TAWO ang LM? Now people can see your bias between two spacecraft of nearly the SAME MASS, pero you feel dili tinuod ang isa tungod lang kay naay tawo sa sulod. *shakes head*

-RODION

Russian made it, not America.
That's the difference.

[rodsky]

Russian made it, not America.
That's the difference.

LOL? Even though the Soviets/Russians verified/acknowledged that Apollo really reached the moon? Mas maayo ka pa sa mga Russian scientists Nasyo?

Again, answer me the question--what makes the ZOND any different from the LM?

-RODION

[THE SKULLS]

Nganong SPECIFIC man kaayo inyong pagpangita sa "ROUTING" when EVERYTHING and ANYTHING shot towards the moon is affected by Newtonian Laws? Whether lunar module pa na, or whatever spacecraft, unmanned or manned, AFFECTED gihapon na siya sa rules of TLi and LOI. Para dili na ko ug kamo mag kalas kalas ug type, please review this before discussing your wrong views:

Step 1: Getting to the moon (TLi)
Trans Lunar Injection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Step 2: Inserting into Lunar Orbit (LOI)
Lunar Orbit Insertion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Apollo Flight Journal - Lunar Orbit Insertion

Step 3: Now let's go back to the Earth
Trans-Earth injection - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now, the only time you can really make a dent in the argument is to read ALL THAT, UNDERSTAND/DIGEST it, and tell me if your views are still the same--because if you don't agree with me, then I will truly wonder how you guys passed your high school and/or college physics. Ako gani hapit na di ka graduate ug high school because of Physics (but then I was enrolled in a science high school, very tough), kamo pa kaha nga mga electronic engineer ug chemical engineer, AB English lang intawon ko unya kamo dili kasabot sa basic principles of Newtonian physics??

Reminds me of what Vern wrote on his avatar.*shakes head*

-RODION

I will read this first Rods. Seems interesting. Basin mag-abot jud ta sa punto nga something set foot sa moon jud.

[Soul Doctor]

the problem with you rodsky, when you argue, you put words in our mouth.
no one said the unmanned modules were never sent to the moon.
infact, they all crashed in the moon.

so stop putting words in our mouth.

stick with what you know.

my point was
it impossible to land perfectly on the moon as shown in the moon landing video.
due to its initial velocity and the pull of the gravity of the moon.

if you intend to miss the moon hoping that the gravity will pull the module into its orbit, that is a risky idea.
a small difference in speed or direction may lead to a miss and the module will wander in space forever.

[THE SKULLS]

LOL? Even though the Soviets/Russians verified/acknowledged that Apollo really reached the moon? Mas maayo ka pa sa mga Russian scientists Nasyo?

Maybe, I could have a great help for them. Who knows?

Again, answer me the question--what makes the ZOND any different from the LM?

-RODION

Isn't it a valid answer to your question Rods? Russian made aren't same with US.

[THE SKULLS]

the problem with you rodsky, when you argue, you put words in our mouth.
no one said the unmanned modules were never sent to the moon.
infact, they all crashed in the moon.

so stop putting words in our mouth.

stick with what you know.

my point was
it impossible to land perfectly on the moon as shown in the moon landing video.
due to its initial velocity and the pull of the gravity of the moon.

if you intend to miss the moon hoping that the gravity will pull the module into its orbit, that is a risky idea.
a small difference in speed or direction may lead to a miss and the module will wander in space forever.

same ra lagi daw ang manned ug unmanned. pastilan, pila % sa crash sa unmanned?

[rodsky]

Another question I'm posing to both you and Soul Doctor.

1. You both agree nga the reason they both (US vs. Russia) wanted to go to the moon, i.e. ga-lumba sila?

2. Ok if you say "yes" to the question above, then surely, both side would have set up monitoring systems (clandestine or overt) with their CIA or KGB, to make sure of the progress of both sides, kung tinood ba dyud ilang accomplishments...so they must have set up sophisticated surveillance equipment to monitor each other....you agree with this?

3. So you also agree that if say, Russia had a means to monitor the Apollo mission, then they can publish data showing the Lunar Module heading towards the moon, yes?

Well, here's the checkmate guys. The Russians DID track the SIV+CSM+LM stack as it headed towards the moon And here's a Russian website (translated to English) that proves it:

Translation result for http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/numbers/271/03.shtml

-RODION

[rodsky]

no one said the unmanned modules were never sent to the moon.
infact, they all crashed in the moon.

Crashed? Check again:

Soviet Unmanned SOFT LANDINGS on the moon (these were PERFECT landings!)

Not only they land! They DROVE on the moon!

YouTube - Tank on the Moon 1/3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMus9...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm96P...eature=related

it impossible to land perfectly on the moon as shown in the moon landing video.
due to its initial velocity and the pull of the gravity of the moon.

Lunokhod's landing had to be MORE perfect than the Lunar Module--why? Because it's instruments were very sensitive, and it could have broken down if it landed HARD. So it was able to land perfectly. Again, there is NO difference in the physics encountered by the Lunokhod and the Lunar Module, so again, why you do think DILI KAYA sa Lunar Module ang nabuhat sa Lunokhod?

if you intend to miss the moon hoping that the gravity will pull the module into its orbit, that is a risky idea.
a small difference in speed or direction may lead to a miss and the module will wander in space forever.

You don't know what you are talking about. "Miss the moon?" Please review Lunar Orbit Insertion link I posted above.

-RODION