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  1. #5701

    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    so my assumption was wrong then...i assumed it was a question...
    though nagduda nako gamay kay youtube lagi, naa pa koy traumatic experience with breakeven regarding youtube vids..Lol
    Ambot lng bro, nganong kusog man kaau na cla mangulekta ana oe!

  2. #5702
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    since mostly, concentrated man sa belief ug uban pa about unsa ang Catholicism ang mga questions diri, ako ni i question directly nimo bro... other Catholics here can give also their answer

    sa imong hunahuna bro, do you think there is something in the Vatican that you don't know? for example bro, a well kept secret, that can destroy the RC, and can change your belief as a Catholic. How would you react bro if something will be revealed from the Vatican, that had been lied to all the Catholics? Would you remain as a Catholic? What do you think is the possible well kept secret of the Vatican that is not open to the public?
    If I may ...

    It depends . I know there are secrets best described as hidden for the common good .

    If it does not at all contradicts the MAGISTERIUM of the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH observed for the last 2000 years as how Jesus Christ founded it , I will remain a Catholic and a Christian .

    Possible well kept secret of the Vatican ? Could be the list of the cardinals who are mafiosi's and associates of Freemasonry and Illuminati's if ever they exist.
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  3. #5703
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    OT: bye bye bro Breakeven...

    OnT: naa ko question nimo bro noy... ikaw ra baya akong friend sa akong friends list

    since mostly, concentrated man sa belief ug uban pa about unsa ang Catholicism ang mga questions diri, ako ni i question directly nimo bro... other Catholics here can give also their answer
    OT: Lol pang add ug uban para dili ko mag inusara ngadto...hehehe

    OnT:
    i'm not sure if angay ba imung question diri nga thread jovs 'cause it's something personal and this thread focuses on Catholicism in general.

    however, since ako raman imung friend sa imung friend list...Lol as long as this is not gonna turn into another debate session then
    i guess its ok to answer your personal question about Catholicism.

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    sa imong hunahuna bro, do you think there is something in the Vatican that you don't know? for example bro, a well kept secret, that can destroy the RC, and can change your belief as a Catholic.?
    about sa Vatican, well naa jud nay daghan nakong wa nahibaw.an jovs
    kung about sa Catholicism imung pasabut when you asked about
    how much i know about Vatican, as far as Catholic catechism is concerned jovs, kay mao man jud na ang basehan sa pagtulon-ang Katoliko...so far so good raman jovs.

    i need to know what that secret is first before i decide what to do with my faith. and it has to be proven jud not just some mere conspiracy theories that are just plain attempt to discredit the Roman Church.
    or scandals about priests, controversies made by the people of the Church..
    Catholicism does not depend on Catholics jovs.

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    How would you react bro if something will be revealed from the Vatican, that had been lied to all the Catholics? Would you remain as a Catholic?
    jovs, the reason for my Catholicism is not about the Vatican,
    not because i was raised with this religion as well, as i nearly threw it before..Lol
    but because through Catholicism i found the reason for my existence and the fullness of my joy through Jesus Christ our Lord.
    i have understood the Love of God at least within the levels of understanding my finite brain can grasp and partake with something that is so beautifully infinite.
    anyways,to answer your question, please refer to my answers sa question number 1.

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    What do you think is the possible well kept secret of the Vatican that is not open to the public?
    hmmm...i'm not sure jovs
    if you're referring sa mga anomalya, mga scandal sa mga pari or leaders nga nangasayop when you say secrets..i don't really see why and how it should discredit the Roman Church or Catholicism in general?
    again Catholicism and the Church's teachings cannot be discredited
    just because some of the members even the leaders failed to act accordingly in reference with the Catholic teachings.

    if its something occultic, or yawa2x as breakeven suggested sa iyang thread..Lol
    well as far as the Catholic teaching is concerned through the catechism
    i don't see any occultic and most esp satanic on the RCC doctrines..

    kung tinuod pa nga naay nagpaluyo nga di mao sa Catholicism jovs..
    why does the church's sole teaching is about Love?
    and about giving God all the glory, honor and power
    kung naa pay nagpaluyo nga di mao jovs, the moment that it will be revealed to the public, i seriously doubt if naa pay mudawat ana
    'cause the teachings of the RCC to begin with jovs is already a 100% contrary
    to something Satanic.
    therefore, the conspiracy about naay nagpaluyo nga di mao sa Catholicism does not make any sense..
    Last edited by noy; 04-15-2013 at 10:27 PM.

  4. #5704
    Quote Originally Posted by blackdream View Post
    Ambot lng bro, nganong kusog man kaau na cla mangulekta ana oe!
    mao man puy ilang huna-huna nga insakto bro..
    i wonder if they really asked Jesus if what they think about Catholicism is the TRUTH..Lol

    next question na pud ta?

  5. #5705
    Pangutana: Kining mabasa natu about lagi anang bag-ong Pope karun nga Jesuit daw na. Nya kana daw mga Jesuit mura daw nga mga Army sa RC? unsay Official reason nganu nahimu nang Jesuits? or unsa ilang katungdanan.

    Ug unsay diay Purpose anang mga ORDER sa RC? Like sa kana SVD nga nagdala sa USC?

    Daghan tag mabasa or naa sa Youtube pero unsay Official ana?

  6. #5706
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Ug unsay diay Purpose anang mga ORDER sa RC? Like sa kana SVD nga nagdala sa USC?
    Bro, religious orders were formed according to the founder's charism or spiritual mission for the Church. For example:

    The Order of the Preachers or the Dominicans focus on preaching.
    The Order of St Camillus for instance, focus on the spiritual and physical care of the sick
    The Benedictines serve the Church through work and prayer. They are also involved in missionary work, and is responsible for the spread of Christianity throughout western Europe during the Middle Ages.

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Pangutana: Kining mabasa natu about lagi anang bag-ong Pope karun nga Jesuit daw na. Nya kana daw mga Jesuit mura daw nga mga Army sa RC?
    The Society of Jesus, likewise, is dedicated to the service of the hierarchical Church especially full obedience to the Holy Father. They are formed to combat heresy, as well as for mission work, preaching and teaching.

    ""St. Ignatius wanted to found a society of priests that would combat heresy, do mission work, preach and teach. These men were to be a community bound by vows of poverty, obedience and chastity and they were to make a fourth vow to go where the pope needed them.

    Jesuits in general are discouraged to take up high positions in the Church due to their missionary charism. But sometimes the Holy Spirit works mysteriously and we now have an SJ Pope in the Papacy.

    The Holy See does not have its own military, apart from the Swiss Guards which are considered to be the "most loyal" in the world The Jesuits were an important asset in combating heresy due to its military structure. I would consider them to be the "most learned" of all the Catholic order of priests because of their rigorous training.

    Mura sad lisod lisod ang priestly formation if you want to become a Jesuit than to be an ordinary diocesan priest, as what they say.


    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    unsay Official reason nganu nahimu nang Jesuits? or unsa ilang katungdanan?
    Read lang ang history bro:

    Society of Jesus

    The Society of Jesus


    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Daghan tag mabasa or naa sa Youtube pero unsay Official ana?
    Daghan conspiracy theories ang gi himo against Jesuits -- daghan pud ka makita sa youtube ana.

    They are generally feared for their brains, energy and independence.
    Historically, they were also deeply feared and revered because Jesuits have the courage and bravery to immerse themselves even in hostile situations for the sake of service to the Church.

    They preserved Catholicism in the midst of the Reformation in England and E. Europe, where Catholicism was nearly extinguished. They spread Catholicism in China and Japan where Catholic missionaries are being hunted and killed, They even converted the Emperor's Ministers and the Empress, (the emperor's wife)

    "" In different ways, the Jesuits have always been at the outer edge of the Catholic world: delving deeply into foreign languages, cultures and faiths, in the ultimate hope of converting people to Christianity but in a spirit of deep and skilfully applied empathy.""

  7. #5707
    so kana mga Order naa sad na sila mga heads, nya mu report sad na sila sa Vatican?

  8. #5708
    To add:

    Jesuits are well-informed about almost everything, well versed in cultural diplomacy and the Vatican diplomatic corps even BEATS the entire United States.

  9. #5709
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    so kana mga Order naa sad na sila mga heads, nya mu report sad na sila sa Vatican?
    Yes, it is the Holy See who approves the religious Constitutions so they are responsible towards the Pope.

  10. #5710
    OT :

    After reading thread pages in the earlier and mid section , there are actually a lot questions raised and salamat DARTZED and the rest for answering it for the RCC .

    Pwerting daghana na diayng na tackle .... one thing lang I want to say .

    NOY , THE SUN KING , NEWBIE and company .... mura man diay mo ug si St. Charles Borromeo , St. Athanasius of Alexandria ,Constantine th Great and the rest of the Martyr's rolled into one who not only defended the church but expounded the magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church .

    To the rest who are here for answers , inquiries , doubts , confusions .... I suggest backread , pwerting daghana na jud na tackle diay . But for your convenience , you can just spill it here unless it is a form of mockery or BS .

    Waiting for the next question .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

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