conspiracy theories

[Soul Doctor]

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The PENTTBOM report, bow....

1.)Identical letters

Additionally three of the hijackers carried an identical handwritten letter[3][4] (in Arabic) that was found in three separate locations: the first, in a suitcase of hijacker Mohamed Atta that did not make the connection to American Airlines Flight 11 that crashed into the North Tower of the World Trade Center; the second, in a vehicle parked at Washington Dulles International Airport that belonged to hijacker Nawaf al-Hazmi; and the third at the crash site of United Airlines Flight 93 in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

According to the testimony before the House Intelligence Subcommittee on Terrorism and Homeland Defense on October 3, 2001 given by J. T. Caruso—the Deputy Assistant Director of the FBI's Counterterrorism Division, "translations of the letter indicate an alarming willingness to die on the part of the hijackers." [5]

1.1 question:
Mutoo mo nga ang suitcase sa hijackers wala makarga sa eroplano?
Normal ba nga ang imong luggage nahabilin sa airport while ikaw nga pasahero nakasakay?
Bisan Cebu Pacific dili na mahitabo unless overloaded na ang plane.
Pero ang ilang plane gamay rag pasahero. dili overloaded.

1.2 question:
Kini nga mga notes dapat instructions ni nila.
lista ni sa mga butang nga angay nilang buhaton.
Taas kaayo ang lista.
Nganung ila mang gibilin sa luggage og sa sakyanan?
Namemorize diay ni nila ang lista?
Bisan ako dili kamemorize og ingon ani kataas nga lista sa instructions.

kung ako ang terrorist, naa ni sa akong lawas pirmi nga papel.
dili man nila kinahanglan ibilin kay wala may makasabot sa ilang language sa airport pa lang.
bisan ila pa ning himuong paypay dili ra gihapon mailhan sa airport personel unsa tong nga mga notes.

1.3 question
ang ikatulo nga copy sa letter nakit-an sa crash site?
wala man gani nakit-an nga dead bodies, walay narecover nga plane parts nga mas solid pa sa papel.

Ang papel na nuon ang mosurvive sa crash?

Dili kaha ang papel maoy unang masunog?

Kita na ninyo kung unsa kamabaw ang FBI report?

Dili kaha "planted" ni tanang ebedensya sa FBI?
Asa may mas katuhuan?
(....to be continued kay gigutom ko)

[Soul Doctor]

The PENTTBOM report, bow nasad,

2.)Passports recovered

According to testimony by Susan Ginsberg, a staff member of the National Commission on Terrorist attacks upon the United States, in the January 26, 2004 Public Hearing:

"Four of the hijackers passports have survived in whole or in part. Two were recovered from the crash site of United Airlines flight 93 in Pennsylvania. These are the passports of Ziad Jarrah and Saeed al Ghamdi. One belonged to a hijacker on American Airlines flight 11. This is the passport of Satam al Suqami. A passerby picked it up and gave it to a NYPD detective shortly before the World Trade Center towers collapsed. A fourth passport was recovered from luggage that did not make it from a Portland flight to Boston on to the connecting flight which was American Airlines flight 11. This is the passport of Abdul Aziz al Omari."

"In addition to these four, some digital copies of the hijackers passports were recovered in post-9/11 operations. Two of the passports that have survived, those of Satam al Suqami and Abdul Aziz al Omari, were clearly doctored. To avoid getting into classified detail, we will just state that these were manipulated in a fraudulent manner in ways that have been associated with al Qaeda."

2.1 question:
2 passports survive miraculously on the crash site when everything else is burned?
They could not even find a single human body from the crash site or no parts of the plane are recovered.

2.2 question:
A passport made of paper aboard the jetliner
survived the plane crash and the jetfuel explosion that burned and melted the building's steel beams,
fell from the hundred- stories- building together with the concrete rubles and landed on the street in perfect condition?

2.3 question:
And the guy who turned it over, the chief of police Bernad Kerik, and mayor Giuliani's right hand
he invested on a stun gun company that supplies homeland security. He earned $6.2 million windfall on that stock options.
Mao ni premyo nimo basta mo produce kag evidence?
He is now in jail for other cases
quote:
"He now faces three trials on federal charges of corruption, tax fraud and lying to White House officials who vetted him for the homeland security post."
Credible kaha na nga source of evidence?

[Soul Doctor]

The PENTTBOM report,
was based on those evidences
the passports and the letters of the so called terrorists.
wala jud silay laing focus sa investigation.
kato ra jud and terrorist angle.
gi-link dayon nila kang Osama Bin Laden with out evidence whatsoever.

[arf2]

tinuon man toh moon landing g prove sa mythbusters naa g bilin na thng ang mga astronauts didto nya naigo sa laser i thnk reflector toh haha

[THE SKULLS]

The PENTTBOM report,
was based on those evidences
the passports and the letters of the so called terrorists.
wala jud silay laing focus sa investigation.
kato ra jud and terrorist angle.
gi-link dayon nila kang Osama Bin Laden with out evidence whatsoever.

Just like any conspiracy theories Doc.
again, 911 was clearly a demolition.

[Soul Doctor]

tinuon man toh moon landing g prove sa mythbusters naa g bilin na thng ang mga astronauts didto nya naigo sa laser i thnk reflector toh haha

it can all be produced.
Kahibaw ba mo nga gi-offeran ang mythbusters producer og 1.6 million sa nasa para lang i-debunk ang conspiracy theories. Kung dili tinuod and conspiracy theories nganung affected man sila?

instead, ila untang ikiha ning mga conspiracy theorists.
pero ang problema kung ikiha nila, daghang kapalpakan ang manggawas.
its like opening a can full of worms.

of course they have to discredit the conspiracy theorist.

a reflector can be easily shot to the moon.
you dont need to go to the moon to place a reflector.
In fact its the only thing they can do. shoot things to the moon. they never mentioned leaving a reflector in the moon during the moon landing right?
They already shoot numbers of unmanned modules to the moon, all they do is crash.
a manned module is no different. because it is a vacuum environment. it is not a controlled environment.
no air, no atmosphere, only gravity. that is why it is very difficult to maneuver a space module on that environment.

As ive mentioned, the velocity of escape is the velocity of approach on the moon.
if it were a small space satelite, i can easily believe that it could reach the moon.
or could even orbit around it. but its basically what it can do.

but a moon lander, its a different story.
its a heavy load to throw to the moon. considering they still carry the fuel for going back, the equipments and the astronauts themselves. in the landing video, it slows down to a landing.

But in real physics, its velocity is similar to the velocity of escape from earth. and that is not SLOW.
And there is no other way they could do to slow down.
If they "coast with the gravity of the moon", that weight they are carrying is heavy enough for the gravity of the moon to pull.

In short whatever they do, they are going to crash land.

But the landing is perfect.

That's why I did not believe it happened.

A satellite to the moon, is like a base ball thrown to a base ball player.
But a lander is more like a bowling ball.
Try throwing a bowling ball to a baseball player,
can he easily catch it softly?

But the moon has no hands, right.
Then the moon is just a big magnet. and the moon lander a screw.
the only way the magnet can catch the thrown screw is if you aim it directly on the magnet.
if you throw the screw beyond the magnet's magnetic field there's a chance it would miss the magnet and the lander is lost wandering in space. Can they take that risk?

see those craters in the moon?
its from the things that landed in the moon. small and big meteors, etc.

This is why I question the actual moon landing.

as grissom said before he died.
the module is just " a bucket full of screws".

At the end of 1966 there are listed over 20,000 failures at Apollo 1.

(In: Washington Times, 23 May 1990; Wisnewski, p.97)

[And when it was written in Washington Times, so it was generally known].

Experts consider Apollo as a "technical nightmare". According to Grissom the best engineers and the best "scientists" of the "USA" have invented a scrap heap with almost no budget limits (Wisnewski, p.96,97).

Every later Apollo mission of Apollo 2 to Apollo 10 has listed about 20,000 failures.

(In: Was The Apollo Moon Landing Fake?; Was The Apollo Moon Landing Fake? (2006)

[So the failure rate is not changing until Apollo 10, and since Apollo 11 all would have functioned smoothly...]

End of 1966 approx.

[THE SKULLS]

Ang dili nako dyud masabtan bay, kay gipost na gani nako ang ALSJ site (you even LIKED it on my Facebook page!), and then ikaw mismo man mag exert ug effort nga pangitaon ang video sa flag sa Apollo 16, para ma-prove kung cardboard ba ni or dili. Ikaw gani ang sige'g sulti nga dili dapat i-spoon feed ang mga tawo or mga bata, nya ikaw dyud gapa-spoon feed sa akoa. I already gave you the tools--it's time you start exerting your OWN effort.

is that spoon feeding rods? ato lagi i-investigate. wa ko mosulti diri nga dili tinuod ang moon landing. faked/manufactured man o sa bulan jud nila kuha-a, naay moon landing. gi-hit nako ang LIKE button kay walay LAUGH button. makalingaw man gud rods. as in nahimuot ko. I guess I'm wrong with my theories. Now I'm 50 - 50 on my belief in moon landing. 50 % Faked and 50 % I don't know.

Speculate then articulate.

You sound like a kid who cannot enter the carnival, so he tries to get into a hole in the fence then nakit-an sa security guard ug gikasab-an, then wala pa dyud nag learn ug lesson, kakitag another another hole, you then try to enter it, and gikasab-an na sad sa guard, then wala gihapon natagam, dagan na sad to another hole, kakita na sad another guard, dagan na sad sa another hole...ad infinitum. I have very little respect for people like this, because it's clear that their brain works like an animal brain, rather than a human brain, sorry.

we're all animals Rods.

I'm now convinced dili man ka magpaconvinced (bisan tinood pa dyud ang usa ka butang) kay ang imo mang lingaw kay nga dili maundang ang discussion.

Pasensya na to the people who read this thread sa akong gibati, nga mura na ko'g nang-insulto ni Nasyo...kay kinsa man dili masuko sa usa tawo nga ing ani ang style when it comes to discussions?

-RODION

pasensya na Rods, kay ang information nga imo gikatag, dili man sad ikaw nagbuhat. dili imong loss kung dili sila ma-convince nimo.

pero I admire your efforts.

sa pagkatinu-od lang, diha'y nagbugal-bugal nimo sa general tpoic ug sa science mismo, ako pa nangunay ug badlong.

pasensya na sa OT

Ako laptop kay dual core 2.0 Ghz
2 gig memory
128 shared VC

modagan ba ang Orbiter ana?

[THE SKULLS]

it can all be produced.
Kahibaw ba mo nga gi-offeran ang mythbusters producer og 1.6 million sa nasa para lang i-debunk ang conspiracy theories. Kung dili tinuod and conspiracy theories nganung affected man sila?

instead, ila untang ikiha ning mga conspiracy theorists.
pero ang problema kung ikiha nila, daghang kapalpakan ang manggawas.
its like opening a can full of worms.

of course they have to discredit the conspiracy theorist.

a reflector can be easily shot to the moon.
you dont need to go to the moon to place a reflector.
In fact its the only think they can do. shoot things to the moon.
They already shoot numbers of unmanned modules to the moon, all they do is crust.
a manned module is no different. because it is a vacuum environment. it is not a controlled environment.
no air, no atmosphere, only gravity. that is why it is very difficult to maneuver a space module on that environment.

As ive mentioned, the velocity of escape is the velocity of approach on the moon.
if it were a small space satelite, i can easily believe that it could reach the moon.
ot could even orbit around it. but its basically what it can do.

but a moon lander, its a different story.
its a heavy load to throw to the moon. considering they still carry the fuel for going back, the equipments and the astronauts themselves. in the landing video, it slows down to a landing.

But in real physics, its velocity is similar to the velocity of escape from earth. and that is not SLOW.
And there is no other way they could do to slow down.
If they "coast with the gravity of the moon", that weight they are carrying is heavy enough for the gravity of the moon to pull.

In short whatever they do, they are going to crash land.

But the landing is perfect.

That's why I did not believe it happened.

the velocity reached when escaping earth's atmosphere multiplied by the weight of the module
mao na dapat i-counter sa thrust gikan sa module itself para mohinay. pero naa man lagi kuno method ila gigamit, kadto slingshot ba to. nga mohinay daw inig abot sa usa ka point. mura ug pama-agi sa projectile Doc.

pero impossibly kaayo sa technology sa una. bisan ang designer mismo sa rocket mao nay wala nitu-o. unsa pa kaha ko nga bisan missile dili man ko ka-design.

[THE SKULLS]

by the way, the lunar module was not shoot directly to the moon. ila pa gipatuyok sa moon para mohinay ang velocity. mao na ako nasabtan.

pero impossibly ghapon. mosamot kakusog ang velocity kay ma-drag pa man sa gravity sa moon.

nisamot sa impossibly.

kay kung projectile man lang gani, with respect jud na sa gravity sa plane nga diin ka nagtira. kung mo-abot na sa punto nga vacuum. wala na daw friction theoretically.

tuon ko balik aning Physics. mura ug nagka-interesting ni da.

[THE SKULLS]

by the way, the lunar module was not shot directly to the moon. ila pa gipatuyok sa moon para mohinay ang velocity. mao na ako nasabtan.

pero impossibly ghapon. mosamot kakusog ang velocity kay ma-drag pa man sa gravity sa moon.

nisamot sa impossibly.