The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

[emman]

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Analogy again, why do u go to a doctor when u r badly sick, if you urself know that even that doctor could fall into sickness? Remember that even b4 Jesus called the sinners and the poor to be his apotles. We are all sinners here, instead of trusting only ourselves, Jesus called us to be acommunity of faithful.let us not be selfish, together we can defeat sin because Jesus is among us,

Partly, bro. If they have not performed their duties to guide the souls well, if they have been lax in their disciplines and showed bad or scandalous behavior --- CAUSING IN THE LOSS OF FAITH among the faithful.


But we should not entrust ourselves to the care of persons because they too are fallible. Each of one of us is still responsible for our OWN salvation. An example here is, while corrupt churchmen governed the Church, great saints rose from among the laity rose to set as models of Christian faith.

[TheSunKing]

Analogy again, why do u go to a doctor when u r badly sick, if you urself know that even that doctor could fall into sickness? Remember that even b4 Jesus called the sinners and the poor to be his apotles. We are all sinners here, instead of trusting only ourselves, Jesus called us to be acommunity of faithful.let us not be selfish, together we can defeat sin because Jesus is among us,

Let me add, bro. This is the reason we need to pray hard for our priests.

If they fail, we have to ask ourselves: Did we pray enough for them? Rather than blaming them.

If we didn't pray hard for them, then well, their failure could blamed on our part.

That is why Christianity is a two-way religion.

Just my POV.

[emman]

hope this stand could have more meaning:
"But we should not entrust ourselves to the care of persons because they too are fallible."
The Sacrament of Reconciliation requires a full participation and trust to the representative of Christ.. i do admit that some priest are making some mistakes or lapses but still if we begun to distrust them, its a great danger that would fall into subjectivism and individualism - making our own comfortable god. WE STILL HAVE ENTRUST AND OURSELVES TO THE CARE OF GOD'S instrument with deep prayers for them.

[TheSunKing]

hope this stand could have more meaning:
WE STILL HAVE ENTRUST AND OURSELVES TO THE CARE OF GOD'S instrument with deep prayers for them.

i like this! very well stated bro.

[emman]

naay mga sacramento sa atong simbahang catolico nga mahimo lamang sa usa ka consecated person. usa ka nga tao nga nagstudy jud ug maayo party sa pagtou sa atong simbahan "Philosophy+ Theology" after that mga 10+years siguro, kung qualified na sila ordinahan na sa obispo, para mahimong pari "other Christ", mao naa silay katungod pag consecrated sa pan ug vino. pero bisan sila gani d man tanang sacramento mahimo nila, like sa confirmation, dapat mahimo sa silang Bishop para maka confirma sila. Hierarchical, man gud ang struchture sa atong simbahan Sio, maong naay mga ministry nga dili nato mahimo kung walay proper nga pagsabot ug pagtugot. (sa binuang pa pagkastorya, ug tanang katoliko makaMisa, kinsa namalay manimba? puro na simbahan tanang balay.. heheh..

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So dili diay equal if eucharist nay hisgutan.

Unsay nakalahi anang institution sa Eucharist ug sa pag preach nga di man equal ang Pari ug ordinaryong member sa ana nga Part?

[<SMILE>]

They err because they chose to.
They neglected their knowledge about God because their human part is functioning.

Mas mapugngan pa ang baha kaysa biga bro..

It's never easy to serve GOD when the devil
is always there constantly trying to destroy
what GOD made.
The devil even tried to tempt Lord Jesus Christ
before.

3 The devil said to him, "If you are the Son of God, command this stone to become a loaf of bread." 4 Jesus answered him, "It is written, 'One does not live by bread alone.' " (cf. Deut 8:3c)

5 Then the devil led him up and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6 And the devil said to him, "To you I will give their glory and all this authority; for it has been given over to me, and I give it to anyone I please. 7 If you, then, will worship me, it will all be yours." 8 Jesus answered him, "It is written, 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve only him.'" (cf. Deut 6:13)

9 Then the devil took him to Jerusalem, and placed him on the pinnacle of the temple, saying to him, "If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down from here, 10 for it is written, 'He will command his angels concerning you, to protect you,' 11 and 'On their hands they will bear you up, so that you will not dash your foot against a stone.' " (cf. Ps 91:11-12) 12 Jesus answered him, "It is said, 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.' " (cf. Deut 6:16)

I could say that serving GOD is also one
of the trials in how we upheld the sublime notion
in upholding GOD's glory.
A few of them did fall, but rest assured those who are
able to pass through temptation had that unrevocable firmness
in serving GOD, for they were able to overcame the devil itself.

Temptation is somewhat a word that invokes compelling,
one would be compelled if he would lose hopes that he could not anymore
sway away from temptation. As for your own statement ''mas mapugngan
pa ang baha kaysa biga'' is such a word of weakness, not to those who could
withstood and perhaps the work of the devil itself to weaken.

Are you trying to tempt us,
futile that would be for you will not succeed
for we are far more stronger in faith.

[<SMILE>]

In your own view, Equal raba ang Value sa isa ka Pari compare sa ordinaryong Member sa Church in terms of Salvation or to Serve God Like preaching?

The authority to preach if it is for everyone it will create
chaos, why? all of us would be entitled to preach, kinsa na man
lang ang atong estudiyante ini, kamao na man diay tang tanan, igo
ra ta mobasa sa bibliya unya find also the authority there as what
they claim, gubot pa tas lukot ini kung mao nang pagka-istoryaha.

Before the sole authority was given to Simon Peter itself,
as per Matthew 16:18, and passed on to the popes and the priests,

I could say there is no value involved,
but the priests are GOD's aide in keeping his flock
within his fold.

[SioDenz]

The authority to preach if it is for everyone it will create
chaos, why? all of us would be entitled to preach, kinsa na man
lang ang atong estudiyante ini, kamao na man diay tang tanan, igo
ra ta mobasa sa bibliya unya find also the authority there as what
they claim, gubot pa tas lukot ini kung mao nang pagka-istoryaha.

Before the sole authority was given to Simon Peter itself,
as per Matthew 16:18, and passed on to the popes and the priests,

I could say there is no value involved,
but the priests are GOD's aide in keeping his flock
within his fold.

if for example im not a priest but i can say I already learned from the teachers of the law about my belief. or if i can say I already understand God and my Faith - so that's it, i cant preach what i learned because i am not a priest?

[<SMILE>]

if for example im not a priest but i can say I already learned from the teachers of the law about my belief. or if i can say I already understand God and my Faith - so that's it, i cant preach what i learned because i am not a priest?

Like a professor to his students,
he can always substantiate and make corrections
if his student opts to make a self study,
and as always the student would refer what he
understands to the professor,
I think this is of similar manner.

After becoming learned then he could practice what he learns,
and if he opted to become a professor he can also do so,
but pass through proper channel and post educations, a masteral perhaps.

[romano2717]

gi consider ba sa Catholic church nga dako nga sala ang pag-kaon ug Dugo? like Dugo2x or paklay nga naay sagul dugo2x.