MERGED: Do You Want U.S. Statehood For the Philippines?

[The_Child]

Mo-undang na ko ug basa aning "communist manifesto" ug uban pa nga sinuwat ni Karl Marx kay wala man diay ni ikahatag nga maayo sa sociodad. Kay kon maayo pa ni iyang aydeya gisagop na unta ni sa kadaghanan sa kalibotan. Bye comrades and socialists. Hi uncle Sam!

Wala pa gani ka nakasugod ug basa ug tinuoray nga marx mo undang naka. Ang communist manifesto nga gisuwat ni marx ug engels, (si marx ra gud ang nagsuwat ana, giapil lang ug suwat ang pangan ni engels) dili kaayo importante sa MArxists nga teorya kay gidali2x ra man to ug himo para magamit as a primer for the communist party. Kung gusto ka makasabot ug Marx, basaha ang Das Kapital Vol. 1, 2, 3. Ang vol. 1 moy pinakaimportante. German Idealogy, Theses on FeuerBach, and other writings nya. Ang communist manifesto kay mabaw ra kaayo nga basahon kung gusto nimo sabton si Marx.

Marx is not dead. Thought Soviet Russia and China is now embracing Capitalism, Marx is not dead. Even though obsolete na ang prinsipyo nga gigamit sa mga Kommunistang rebelde dinhi, my opinion of course, Marx is not dead.

Jean-Paul Sartre is influenced by Marx. And to name a few Marxist: Franz Fanon, whose book "the wretched of the poor" is read by pentagon staffs to administer the Iraq situation, Paulo Freire "Pedagogy of the Oppresed", Gustavo Gutierrez "Theology of Liberation" One of Europe's top intellectual, Jurgen Habermas is a neo-marxist. The Structuralists borrowed the entire structuralist method from Marx. Max Weber also has tinge of Marxism. Famous names, all marxists.

When one talks about liberation, one definitely talks about Marxism. The only thing the US can do to liberate us, is to leave us alone, by doing so, they liberate us from their own hands.

cheers!

[amico]

liberator or oppressor? ally or enemy? you decide.

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[LytSlpr]

Pro pud ko. Pero dili as a state kay murag dili man siguro na puede? commonwealth or territory hinuon siguro, like Puerto Rico, Guam or Western Samoa (sakto ba ni?)...

if you agree, then why not go the whole nine yards to maximize and reap all the benefits? it's the same principle, IMO.

[amico]

ang mga kano ang dili musugot kay daghan ta malupigan sila inig election. ang presidente na unya sa USA pirmi na unya pinoy kay ang pinoy unya mubotos sa isig ka pinoy. ang USA unya maatua na hinoon mao dili musugot ang US. mao ayaw nalang mo dahom mangandoy pa sila paapilon ta sa ila states kay nah lupig sila pinoy na ang magbida.

[vern]

Newer topic "US STATEHOOD. Kinsay pro or against?" merged with an older topic with the exact same subject.

[Dorothea]

if you agree, then why not go the whole nine yards to maximize and reap all the benefits? it's the same principle, IMO.

I guess to retain some sort of autonomy siguro. Like Puerto Rico, people enjoy certain advantages that come with being a commonwealth/territory (competitive wages, comparable standard of living), but at the same time, also retain an identity separate from "mainstream" America...

[LytSlpr]

I guess to retain some sort of autonomy siguro. Like Puerto Rico, people enjoy certain advantages that come with being a commonwealth/territory (competitive wages, comparable standard of living), but at the same time, also retain an identity separate from "mainstream" America...

don't you think that is being double-standard? one can still retain their identity as people and culture even if they belong to mainstream america, e.g. hawaii, alaska, new orleans, indian reservations, etc.

that's the reason why Uncle Sam never made us into a US territory or state because they are not stupid. Even without making us into one, they know they can exploit our human and natural resources all the same so there is no point really.

[Dorothea]

^I call it an arrangement that is beneficial to both parties. The Phils has more leeway to "self-govern", more than if it were a state, and the US won't have to spend as much to support us. We used to be a US commonwealth, I just think we should become one again.

[r0mm3L]

temporarily pwede, then later.... handover, just like hongkong

[fingolfin]

.. the one thing i can remember is Quezon's almighty line, correct me if i'm not that accurate:

i'd rather see the philippines run like hell by filipinos than being run like heaven by the americans

.. well, here it is. Hell on Earth. It was during his reign as president that the USA offered us to be part of their country, but the PRIDE of the filipinos prevailed. hahayz. We can't even define our true identity as a filipino, we can't even define what our one-true-culture is. I'm not being a pro coz it's the easier way out for the Philippines problems but at least it can bring in a lot of opportunities.