MERGED: CPP-NPA-NDF Discussions (Issues, Updates, etc.)

[pandisal]

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Its common sense for a simple pinoy here... cumminism is DEAD... the one are left in the jungle kadtong gahi ug ulo! ug nang yawat nalang kay maka kwarta sila sa pag extort in the name of the dead ideals... :P

[dredd41v576]

an arm struggle this days is not needed anymore. the npa should stop it already, it's useless.

[junmar4]

an arm struggle this days is not needed anymore. the npa should stop it already, it's useless.

unsa na diay needed karon?

[dredd41v576]

sa imo tan-aw bro unsa man diay? kinahanglan pa ba diay na sila makig gubat nga naa na man na silay mga representative sa congress?

[wanderlust]

progressive efforts? what progressive efforts? if our government is truly making progressive efforts then why do i not see any progressive effects on our society? you can't mean to tell me that the NPA managed to foil them all...

i do not see anything complementary to development about war.

It's your responsibility as a citizen to find out about the projects that the government implements for the people's benefit. Here in Istorya alone other forumers have posted a lot of good things that have recently happened under the stewardship of the present administration. If you do not see anything progressive that's your problem.

the aim of the CPP-NPA is to actively protect and fight for the rights of the Filipino people... and if in the course of fulfilling its duty, it must topple 'reactionary' governments and establish a communist one to better serve the interest of the masses, then so be it.

are they really insurgents? it is likely that they are really revolutionary compatriots serving their people and their country, suffering the injustice of being labelled insurgents by those who wish to spread black propaganda against them and their cause.

democratic structure? democracy is such a relative and dynamic term, that to define it within the confines of one finite structure is foolishness... the government might think that democracy is not the NPA way, but the NPA believes that theirs is the true democracy.
this point is a sore matter of perspective...

Not only the government thinks democracy is not the NPA way. Look around you, boy! In this forum alone a lot of people condemn the NPA's atrocious acts. The government, for all its flaws, has been duly elected by the people. That is the ONLY democratic way. But of course, you will keep insisting on your warped arguments like a true communist propagandist. Good luck to you.

[salbahis]

In democracy there is FREEDOM, but it has LIMITATION, WITHOUT LIMITATION that is it's not DEMOCRACY!, basin nag dahom ta nga tanan pwede nato mahimo kay tungod sa FREEDOM of EXPRESSION!, WRONG kay ug wala tay limitation ABUSO na ang tawag ana!

[aenigma143]

sakto jud kaau ka diha bro...

[ed168]

In democracy there is FREEDOM, but it has LIMITATION, WITHOUT LIMITATION that is it's not DEMOCRACY!, basin nag dahom ta nga tanan pwede nato mahimo kay tungod sa FREEDOM of EXPRESSION!, WRONG kay ug wala tay limitation ABUSO na ang tawag ana!

yes bro agree ko, dli sad maayo cgeg sabotahe, ask not wat d country can do to u, ask wat u can do to ur country..

[skobadagank]

in my opinion, tanan mga militante apilun ug hipos. sama sa gibuhat ni Palparan. kay kana sila mao na mga spy sa mga komunistang bulok. sige nila i raig ang mga kampo..nya di ra ba dayun makalupig.way training!!kapuy kapuy lang sila labun si JOMA tua sa netherlands ga palami. sila wa intawuy gikaun..kanang naa sa gubat. hahay. usa pa, ganahan mana ila na pobre ang mha PIlipino kay kung ma middle class halos tanan, wala na silay miyembro, kay kung naa ka kwarta ug stable imu pangita, wa man ka problema kaayo. ergo, kargahan nila mga pobre para maghimo ug grupo arun magsinamok..mao nga di gyud ta mu lambo. hahay. saun nalang. magpaka self righteous..mura pug uns aka limpyo.

[lechugas]

It's your responsibility as a citizen to find out about the projects that the government implements for the people's benefit. Here in Istorya alone other forumers have posted a lot of good things that have recently happened under the stewardship of the present administration. If you do not see anything progressive that's your problem.

good, if i am the only one who cannot see any true progressive efforts. unfortunately, a lot of other people also do not see any progress-- progress where its benefits exceed its costs... true, the peso may be "stronger" now, but its newfound strength also exacts a high toll on our exporters... i repeat, i see nothing complementary to development in war.

Not only the government thinks democracy is not the NPA way. Look around you, boy! In this forum alone a lot of people condemn the NPA's atrocious acts. The government, for all its flaws, has been duly elected by the people. That is the ONLY democratic way. But of course, you will keep insisting on your warped arguments like a true communist propagandist. Good luck to you.

yes, a lot of people condemn the NPA's atrocious acts... i, actually am also one of them... but unlike others who take those things at their face value and condemn them for what they supposedly are, i also try to delve deeper and see the why, i also try to see the other side of the coin...you can not fight fire with fire... so instead of advocating war and violence, the use of force and intimidation, i advocate the use of intelligent thought and benificial and progressive acts, i advocate reform.

i would have you know that for all the NPA's wickedness, it does not give out half the affliction and suffering our duly elected government, and its soldiers, causes. it is well and good for you to call out all the NPA's atrociousness, but what about the vile acts of our government and its soldiers? what of general palparan - the infamous "butcher of mindoro" - and the likes of him? you think you are patriotic, so you shun and condemn the NPA --- but you turn a blind eye to the countless human rights violations are government performs. to say something of the NPA's ill acts, but to say nothing of the government's wrongdoing is like the pot calling the kettle black. it is being unfair, biased, and one-sided.

a communist propagandist? what is that? for anyone to call me as such, only shows how much that one really knows or understands... just because someone holds views different from your own, it does not give you the right to label that someone as something, and to call those views wretched or warped. in any well-thought conversation, it is normal for two people to have different views about certain points and matters, but for one to start to call the other names is a show of bad sport, and a lack of respect... respect. i believe that that one word closely defines what democracy trully is. in a true democracy, each is given the opportunity to air out their views, and to have their own set of ideas and thoughts and to stand by them without fear of being ridiculed and labelled. RESPECT is the true democracy.



i believe that i am not someone who could be justly labelled as an "NPA supporter" or "communist propagandist". i do not love the NPA... but i also do not hate it... because i believe in democracy. i believe in respecting its views, no matter how different they are from mine. and because of this respect, i try to understand, and not condemn... i do not wish to turn people from their views of the NPA, i merely wanted to show the other side of the coin, to provide the bigger picture.

i think that there are people who hate the NPA so much because they want to justify their own passive existence... because they know that they will not and can not do what those of the NPA have done... not only could they not leave their families and take up arms to join a struggle for the rights of the people... they also could not speak out and ask for a real change for the better... they can not or will not actively advocate and work for reform... it is not that they are content, and do not want for more... it is not that they are lazy... it is just that they do not have it in them to be like the NPA ---to go out there and fight for their due.