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    what? bro newton, diin mani nimo nga info?

    why man ang mga Catholic ila man Ginoo ang pope?
    maayo paka kabalo ani kami mga Catholics wala jud...

  2. #542
    Quote Originally Posted by newtonscousin View Post
    why man ang mga Catholic ila man Ginoo ang pope?
    hmmmm are you serious?... kinsa man ngtell nimo ana?.. how come nakasulti ka ana?.. asa mana sa inyo bible makita nga ang pope or pari is God?...

  3. #543
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    bro aron sa imong katagbawan ani-a..


    a. Christ rose from the dead on a Sunday.

    b. The risen Christ first appeared to His followers on a Sunday.

    Jesus Christ rose from the dead on Sunday, the first day of the week, and appeared first to those who were preparing to anoint his body.

    But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they went to the tomb taking the spices which they had prepared. Luke 24:1

    And behold, Jesus met them and said, "Hail!" And they came up and took hold of his feet and worshiped him. Matthew 28:9

    Jesus appeared to the Eleven and others.

    On the evening of that day, the first day of the week, the doors being shut where the disciples were for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said to them, "Peace be with you." John 20:19

    c. On the following Sunday, Jesus again appeared to the disciples.

    A week later, the disciples were once more in the room, and this time Thomas was with them. Despite the locked doors, Jesus came and stood before them. "Peace be with you," he said. John 20:26 (NAB)

    d. At Emmaus Christ celebrated the Eucharist, the Lord's Supper, on a Sunday.

    When he was at table with them, he took the bread and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to them. And their eyes were opened and they recognized him; and he vanished out of their sight. Luke 24:30-31

    e. Christ gave authority and a multitude of spiritual gifts to His disciples on Sundays.

    Jesus empowered the disciples to understand the Scriptures.

    Then he opened their minds to understand the scriptures... Luke 24:45

    "Thus it is written that the Messiah must suffer and rise from the dead on the third day... You are witnesses of this. See, I send down upon you the promise of my Father. Remain here in the city until you are clothed with power from on high." Luke 24:46-49

    f. On Sunday Christ gave His disciples the "Great Commission".

    He commanded them to preach the Gospel, and promised them His unfailing presence.

    And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age." Matthew 27:18-20

    And He gave them the promise of the Holy Spirit and the authority to forgive sins in His name.

    Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you." And when he had said this he breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained." John 20:21-23

    And behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you; but stay in the city, until you are clothed with power from on high. Luke 24:49

    g. The Holy Spirit descended upon the Apostles on Sunday.

    On the seventh Sunday after the Resurrection, the Holy Spirit descended upon the Apostles.

    When the day of Pentecost had come, they were all together in one place. And suddenly a sound came from heaven like the rush of a mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared to them tongues as of fire, distributed and resting on each one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. Acts 2:1-4

    h. The first great conversion and baptism of thousands of new believers occurred on Sunday.

    Immediately upon receiving the Holy Spirit, Peter gave a powerful address on the Gospel, resulting in the conversion and baptism of many.

    So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls. Acts 2:41

    see.

    now why your observing your worship on the first day? mao ba na ang gi sugo ni God on the first day?

    Exodus 20
    8: Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

    9: Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

    10: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

    11: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

  4. #544
    Quote Originally Posted by r3roble View Post
    well, you have a point there bro, but can we see sources?



    that is why we were warned in the whole chapter of Matthew 24:

    24 "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.

    The Sad Story of the BIBLE!

    Until 1400 AD, Catholic Monks preserved the original purity of the BIBLE and made copies by hand. Everyday in the Holy Masses, the the congregation attended both 'Breaking of the Word' and 'Breaking of the Bread'. The Bible was not available to common people as there was no printing at that time as it is TODAY.

    In 1453 AD, printing was invented. Copies of the Bible were made available. In 1517 AD, Martin Luther attacked the Church, But first he vandalized Bible itself. To defend his dogmas, he threw out seven Old Testament books from the early cannons of the Bible (Wisdom, Sirach, Judith, Baruch, Tobit, 1st Maccabees and 2nd Maccabees). He planned to destroy even The New Testament book, 'Letter of James', which spoke against his dictrine ' Sola Fide" (Man is save not by work but faith alone). But James 2:26 says: "Faith without work is DEAD". When opposition mounted, he was satisfied, accusing this Epistle as "Epistle of the straw". So the Bible that is used by Protestants, is partial, incomplete, and unauthentic.

    His followers started to fight with each other on the interpretation of the Bible by creating contrary theologies and new dogmas. Thousand of Churches were formed. All believed that the Bible alone is the basis of Faith; a dogma never taught by Jesus, never written in the Bible, nor supported by the Bible. Each church started to change interpretations and even words in the Bible according to thier desire. This resulted in More than 200,000 churches with contrary views, all based in the Bible. All claim the guidance of the same Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit can never do this dirty confusion and total anarchy as it is the Spirit of Truth.

    There are more than 700 churches here in the Philippines with the 'Bible alone theory'. Thus, history proved, beyond any doubt, that the 'Bible alone' theory is not from God.

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    now why your observing your worship on the first day? mao ba na ang gi sugo ni God on the first day?
    bro newton, kindly share to us where did you get the info nga ang sunday is the first day? thank you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by newtonscousin View Post
    14: Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

    15: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

    the statement clearly states that the Lord the one who forgive sins.
    wer man ang priest dha ug pope?
    unsa dai elder sa church niyo bro tao tao tawag ninyo nila?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oTnur View Post
    The Sad Story of the BIBLE!

    Until 1400 AD, Catholic Monks preserved the original purity of the BIBLE and made copies by hand. Everyday in the Holy Masses, the the congregation attended both 'Breaking of the Word' and 'Breaking of the Bread'. The Bible was not available to common people as there was no printing at that time as it is TODAY.

    In 1453 AD, printing was invented. Copies of the Bible were made available. In 1517 AD, Martin Luther attacked the Church, But first he vandalized Bible itself. To defend his dogmas, he threw out seven Old Testament books from the early cannons of the Bible (Wisdom, Sirach, Judith, Baruch, Tobit, 1st Maccabees and 2nd Maccabees). He planned to destroy even The New Testament book, 'Letter of James', which spoke against his dictrine ' Sola Fide" (Man is save not by work but faith alone). But James 2:26 says: "Faith without work is DEAD". When opposition mounted, he was satisfied, accusing this Epistle as "Epistle of the straw". So the Bible that is used by Protestants, is partial, incomplete, and unauthentic.

    His followers started to fight with each other on the interpretation of the Bible by creating contrary theologies and new dogmas. Thousand of Churches were formed. All believed that the Bible alone is the basis of Faith; a dogma never taught by Jesus, never written in the Bible, nor supported by the Bible. Each church started to change interpretations and even words in the Bible according to thier desire. This resulted in More than 200,000 churches with contrary views, all based in the Bible. All claim the guidance of the same Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit can never do this dirty confusion and total anarchy as it is the Spirit of Truth.

    There are more than 700 churches here in the Philippines with the 'Bible alone theory'. Thus, history proved, beyond any doubt, that the 'Bible alone' theory is not from God.
    thanks for the source bro... i'm a Catholic so you may already know my stand on this.
    let us forward this information to our brothers that believe on what you named as "Bible alone theory" and see what can they say about this...

  8. #548
    Quote Originally Posted by r3roble View Post
    bro newton, kindly share to us where did you get the info nga ang sunday is the first day? thank you...
    just read necrotic freak post.
    ill give you texts from the Bible if you want.

    part of his post.

    b. The risen Christ first appeared to His followers on a Sunday.

    Jesus Christ rose from the dead on Sunday, the first day of the week, and appeared first to those who were preparing to anoint his body.

    may pa diay ko ani kay kbalo ko sa una why mag celebrate ko ug sunday, meaning kay ako gi sugat si Jesus Christ ky na banhaw cya pagka sunday. and what is sunday, the first day of the wee. so why first day man instead of the seventh day ang gi ingon ni God?

  9. #549
    Quote Originally Posted by newtonscousin View Post
    see.

    now why your observing your worship on the first day? mao ba na ang gi sugo ni God on the first day?

    Exodus 20
    8: Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

    9: Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

    10: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

    11: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
    In New Testament times, Sunday replaced the Jewish Sabbath. St. Paul and the Christians of Troas assembled on the first day of the week "to break bread" (Ac. 20:7), and the apostle bade his converts put by their alms on this day (1 Co. 16:2). St. John called it "the Lord's Day," which the Western Church later translated Dominica, the title still used for Sunday in official ecclesiastical Latin.

    The immediate reason for the substitution of Sunday for the Sabbath was to commemorate the Resurrection of Christ from the dead on the first day of the week...

  10. #550
    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    try to compare your KJV to catholic bible bro diba mas nipis ang KJV kaysa catholic bible.. meaning dahgan ug kuwang nga historical books imong bible.. ang worse lahi pa jud ang translation sa uban words from greek/hebrew to english.. for us we use the NRSV catholic edition ang somtimes use KJV for cross-references.

    sure ka akoa ng Bible ? Naa man diay mo Bible why dili mo kabasa sa mga verses gihatag nila about images? about sa reply sa uban they are referring it sa RC na Bible. I am referring also sa RC na Bible, kana raman jud ang Bible, naa pa diay lain? kung naa lain, that is not my Bible, okey?

    PEACE

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