Wedding: Church or Civil or Both?

[junmar4]

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it all depends on your beliefs and current status of life
If you find civil more of a fix to your recent problem then its your decision....

Also your religious belief plays a role in your decision ( if YOU have )
on RCs' they would never inaugurate a civil wedding
for the separatist they don't need a church wedding
other religious sect makes their own church wedding
But for other people... they don't really care about weddings...

you want proof?:
look around you and open your eyes.
there's no need to elaborate the obvious...
that is if you even are knowledgeable of what's happening to today's society

issues like same *** marriage in the church, roman catholic condemns civil marriages, priests marries nun, church scandals... their all moral issues... of course that's not the topic here but if you believe in your faith and you agree a civil marriage better evaluate yourself... its not the decision that's the only wrong thing its the actions and deeds that have brought you to make that decision, are you following your belief? or are you just sitting back and let temptation come to play? BUT if your not a RC or of a different sect... it all depends on how you practice your belief whether if it is right for you or lets just say "its allright.. nalang.."

you want concrete issues? there are lots on the magz or better yet google it if you want.

Faith? Moral Issues? sorry bro but I think your barking at the wrong tree.

Unsay katungod sa RC church to impose such standards nga ang RC church mismo daghan pa ug mga questions nga dili sila katubag. Try reading the spirituallities thread.

Try to give a concrete data daw bai nga if sa RC church makasal dili magkabuwag compared to civil weddings.

OT: Mao jud ni problema kay kasagaran sa mga relihiyoso, mao sad ang mga libakera ug libakero...

[rambutan]

TO: notooth and necrotic

mao ba?.. naa lagi ko migo his age was then 22 and the girl was 19.. nkasal man cla bro bsan wlay marriage license, way parental consent/advise para presentar sa judge only one person lng ni stand as witness amiga ra pud dli relatives nila....2 years later bulag cla... kron almost 10 years na cla nagbulag wa nay - ipon2x... problema jud cya kron kng unsaon na..

10 years ago pa man diay ni woi.. sa una, sayon ra jud pakasal.. bisan taho vendor, pwede nimu mahimu witness basta bayad lang mo sakto sa judge, mayor or whoever...

karon, lisod na woi.. daghan au kuti,, labi na below 25 pa mo duha...

nag pa civil mi sa ako wife sa bohol.. puydi ra man diay ari ka mag process sa marriage license, nya adto ka pa kasal sa bohol.. hahay.. nag cge pa ko adto bohol adto na tym, nya balik cebu for work, wa jud pahulay ug grabe gasto sa plite..

pero happy man jud ang ending.. kay nkasal nko! hehehe

[notooth]

tinuod pwede ra mo makasal bisan usa ray witness pero voidable inyong relationship....ma-cure ra ni siya after living together for more than five years....mao ni ang gitawag ug ratification of a voidable marriage....

pero void jud siya from the beginning kay wala natuman ang requirements....walay marriage license

recently, naay judge nga gi-suspend because of a marriage nga daghan kaayo ug discripancies.... labi na ang pag-twist sa age sa couples...imbis minor pa, himoong of legal age na....usa ra ni sa mga examples nga mga discripancies nga gipanghimo.....usa pa sad kay ang ubang judge nga mo administer sa civil wedding kay mahal kaayo ang pangayo where in fact ang actual nga fee kay not more P500 bisan karon....you can see this notice upon entering Palace of Justice sa capitol....

to better understand... akong i-paste some articles of the family code of the philippines, Title I, Chapter 1....


Art. 2. No marriage shall be valid, unless these essential requisites are present:

(1) Legal capacity of the contracting parties who must be a male and a female; and
(2) Consent freely given in the presence of the solemnizing officer. (53a)

Art. 3. The formal requisites of marriage are:
(1) Authority of the solemnizing officer;
(2) A valid marriage license except in the cases provided for in Chapter 2 of this Title; and

(3) A marriage ceremony which takes place with the appearance of the contracting parties before the solemnizing officer and their personal declaration that they take each other as husband and wife in the presence of not less than two witnesses of legal age. (53a, 55a)

Art. 4. The absence of any of the essential or formal requisites shall render the marriage void ab initio, except as stated in Article 35 (2).
A defect in any of the essential requisites shall not affect the validity of the marriage but the party or parties responsible for the irregularity shall be civilly, criminally and administratively liable. (n)

Art. 5. Any male or female of the age of eighteen years or upwards not under any of the impediments mentioned in Articles 37 and 38, may contract marriage. (54a)

[notooth]

TO: notooth and necrotic

mao ba?.. naa lagi ko migo his age was then 22 and the girl was 19.. nkasal man cla bro bsan wlay marriage license, way parental consent/advise para presentar sa judge only one person lng ni stand as witness amiga ra pud dli relatives nila....2 years later bulag cla... kron almost 10 years na cla nagbulag wa nay - ipon2x... problema jud cya kron kng unsaon na..

base sa family code...void ilang marriage from the start jud.... wala man sila marriage license... mao mani ang usa sa formal requisite.....naay exception nuon aning marriage license....pwede ra walay marriage license if nag-live in na for at least five years....and to avail of this exemption, kinahanglan magpahimo mo ug Affidavit....to attest nga nagpuyo namo together for at least five years......

ang ilang marriage certificate bro kay mere scrap of paper ra bro.....walay ikabalaka imong friend ana....but just to be sure...consult a lawyer nalang.....pm me if you want to ask a lawyer about this....i'll give you his contact number.....

[rambutan]

RE: civil wedding/ Church wedding ; both

OT: additional info that u want to know.

dinha sa city hall, grabe ka garapal mga tao dinha sa may entrance if maka dungog lang sila ug kasal..
murag namaligya rag puto sikwate sa kasaba sa ilang illegal na binuhatan...

only this year, nangadto mi sa ako mama to get parent's consent (kay below 25 pa man ko nagpakasal) sa marriage section, we thought naa sa city hall... so pag abot namu ngadto, naay 3 ka civilian nga nag cge offer sa ila service na 3.5K kasal na dayon! witness lang, ug usa ka ginikanan payts na daw... na shock nalang mi sa ako mama coz we know na that is illegal.. mas nakasamot pag ka yagaw kay naay 2 ka baguhan na mga pulis mismo ang nag kunsinte pod namu na ok ra daw kuno na.. 3.5K lang, kasal na! so what we did, we took the names of the lawyer they are referring, the names of the policemen and reported them to the media, and the higher officials...

dah, after a week, nabuking ila illegal na binuhatan! waahhaha

[BOO]

before church but karon i realized na it doesn't really matter
kung gkasal mu or wala
or if sa church ba mu gkasal or sa civil
as long as u love each other payts na..
coz even the married couple mgbuwag ra gihapon
so why go through to all of it if mgka buwag ra diay ghapon db?
even nga ngpropose nka..miskan her family agrees na
but all along ngbinuang ra diay ghapon xa
and the fact that she got pregnant by someone else
really hurts man!
and worst is ikaw pa himuon daotan niya ug sa iya sister just to protect their sis name..
no matter how you try to do good for others
still in the end
ikaw ra ghapon ang pildi
ikaw ra ghapon ang bati
ikaw ra ghapon ang ngkulang

[brad]

ako dili gyod ko ganahan anang kasal.
ganahan ko lin in lib in ra.
ok rana sa mga babaye.

[xie0527]

of cors, church jud para naa jud blessings

[mimsnav]

at first we thought about a civil wedding para less ang gasto, but we were advised to opt for a church wedding ky para kausa na lang plus naay blesssing gikan sa church... kasunggo lagi mi sa gasto.. whew!!!

[yapyap]

i think church is important so people close to you can witness and be happy with u