RELIGION

[MrBiddle]

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and ur absolutely right, ONE God. Islam is monotheism, surrendering oneself to one god. although the concept if Trinity isn't included.

hehehe. I was almost so sure you were this Ensi or Ense however her name was spelled! hehehe.

Be back tomorrow to discuss the "dulia" and "hyperdulia" from my belief system I consider the sectors of Christianity practicing those as polygamous.

[MrBiddle]

Then again, maybe NOT nalang it's already been discussed in previous pages...

anyway, this isnt' a pop quiz or anything but why did you choose Islam?

Me, I chose Christianity because as I've mentioned I've been able to ascertain some concrete prophetic evidence (fulfilled today) that made me conclude that the Bible must be and is God's inspired message to mankind.

It upsets me though that there are some sectors who use our Bible expediently mixing absurd claims with forged documents... in Christianity there are sectors that are so clever I'd consider "first class deceivers".

[centepede]

Dili tungod sa tradisyon maong naa ni sila.Â* Naa ni sila kay ang katinuoran naa man dinhi.Â* Ang tanang katinuoran sa Kristohanong pagtuo naa sa simbahang Katoliko.Â* Ang ubang mga denominasyon anaay kasaypanan - sama pananglit sa pagtuo nga ang Bibliya maoy sole rule of faith.Â* Bakak kini kay wala kani ipamatuod sa Bibliya mismo ug sa history sa simbahang Kristiyano.

Ang Bibliya mismo nag-ingon nga sa Antioch unang gitawag nga 'Christians' ang mga disciples ni Kristo (Acts 11:26).Â*

Gawas sa Bibliya unsa man ang lain nga infalible source sa pagtou bai?

ang kasaypanan sa ubang dinominasyon sama na sa imong guihulagway sa sakyanan. normal ra na, matud pa nimo. ug kung aduna man gani ang Katoliko wala ba?

Kung imo nabasa ang context sa istorya sa acts 11Â* "They were called ..... christians.... by thier enemy" (actually kung basahon nimo ang history during dark ages, even from the time of early Ceasars, Cristians were persecuted and flayed alive, burnt at stake, crucified, tortured. even the daughter of the king of spain, was forced to deliver(6 months pregnant)her baby.
to be called christian is not that easy at that time. Christian is blood bought, and blood fought by our forefathers. it is easy to claim now a days to counted as one. but it was no easy for them who suffer the persecutions under the hand of early ceasars,Â* imperors even under the popery ages, anyone who recant the faith will be save, but for those who hold the fort will suffer the claws and fangs. They were accused as witch or practicing withcraft).

Please be reminded nga Christians or christian means follower of Christ. That whosoever follow a person's doctrine he will be branded as it is.

1timothy 3:16 All scripture are given inspiration by God, and it is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for instructions, unto all unrighteouseness.

bisan asa ka mangita bai sa word nga Bible from Gen-Revelation wala gyud polong nga Bible except sa iyahang cover ug sa concordance. But how in the green earth guitawag ni ug Bible. katolic mitou sa trinity(trinitarian) apan dili nimo makita ang pulong trinity sa Bibliya.
ang Bibliya wala magtudlo nga dunay God. apan ang nagbasa nagtudlo niini (ako lang guibalik nimo ang imo mga primises)




[br]Date Posted: September 04, 2005, 12:44:35 PM_________________________________________________a ku nag tou nga mas maayo nga magrepituhay ta sa religion, kong tan-aw nato nga mora ug sayop siya istoryahan kung moinsister pasagdan. Bible says: after the first and second admonition to a heritic reject.

usa sab sa muslim country baya bai ang ila mga tawo pinangga ug mauswagon kitang mga pinoy naunsa man. magistorya ta sa general. sa akong naobservahan hadlok sila sa ila Allah. Ug ang ilang gobyerno hadlok sa sa ila Allah. maghisgot tag krimen gamai ra kaayo. kung naa gani daku kana religion conflict and nation against nation. but sa ila localidad malinawon mas mahadlok pa ta molakaw diha sa atoa kai sa diri sa ilaha.

[MrBiddle]

1timothy 3:16 All scripture are given inspiration by God, and it is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for instructions, unto all unrighteouseness.

That's second Timothy I guess (2 Tim 3: 16 ) nonetheless I hope you keep posting in here...

the disappearance of the theological expert you are rebuking is mysterious. But I hope people like you who accept the all-suffiency and inerrance of the Bible as compiled by God himself continue to post here.

[misfit]

Then again, maybe NOT nalang it's already been discussed in previous pages...

anyway, this isnt' a pop quiz or anything but why did you choose Islam?

Me, I chose Christianity because as I've mentioned I've been able to ascertain some concrete prophetic evidence (fulfilled today) that made me conclude that the Bible must be and is God's inspired message to mankind.

It upsets me though that there are some sectors who use our Bible expediently mixing absurd claims with forged documents... in Christianity there are sectors that are so clever I'd consider "first class deceivers".

sure i'll answer ur question.

like you, after reading about Islam, I found out many things that were written in the Quran that were fulfilled or discovered long afterwards. and there's one very good example. Islam practically prohibits eating pork. Not out of whim but because pork isn't healthy to be eaten. Purely scientific.

But that's not why I did convert. It's after reading that I realized Islam sets out what God wants, I can say, concretely sets it out. All written down. But without taking away people's free will.

One thing I am so proud of is how it talks of women. In contradiction to what most people think, it's actually all written down in the Quran that men and women should be treated equal. I can say even, that women have more rights. That the muslim woman is so well protected by Islam. I'm proud to be a muslimah.

[MrBiddle]

One thing I am so proud of is how it talks of women. In contradiction to what most people think, it's actually all written down in the Quran that men and women should be treated equal. I can say even, that women have more rights. That the muslim woman is so well protected by Islam. I'm proud to be a muslimah.

During Christ's time or possibly earlier than that women were treated as second-class citizens in Jerusalem...

[jerx d great]

One thing I am so proud of is how it talks of women. In contradiction to what most people think, it's actually all written down in the Quran that men and women should be treated equal. I can say even, that women have more rights. That the muslim woman is so well protected by Islam. I'm proud to be a muslimah.

but howcome men can have many women is that an equal view for women??
and the other muslim dominant countries like saudi and other middle eastern coumtries, there women are not very active in social and political affairs...how come

During Christ's time or possibly earlier than that women were treated as second-class citizens in Jerusalem...

[mannyamador]

It was God who decided the canon

Yes, but HOW did He do so? Did He send you or anyone a written list? No. Did God Himself write any list? No.

God decided the canon through the Catholic Church. No one else made the Christian canon.

it was also his decision to send famine into the land by allowing the muderous clergymen of the Roman church to keep the the Bible - The Word of Truth (Jn 17: 17 ) from the people. (Amos 8: 11)

This is an outright LIE. It was the Catholic Church that brought the Bible to the people.

• It was the Church that decided the canon of the Bible, guided by the Holy Spirit.
• It was the Church that preserved ther Word, and TRANSLATED it.
• The Catholic Church produced the first ACCURATE vernacular Bibles (nearly a hundred years before the King James Version)
• The first printed Bible was a Catholic Bible

The Church never tried to keep the Bible from the people. It did, however, try to stop false and inaccurate versions from spreading. When accurate transaltions were avialble, the Church sprerad them. The Protestants never lied this and so spread the lie about the Church tryiong to keep the Word from the people. You are just repeating that lie.

[MrBiddle]

This is an outright LIE. It was the Catholic Church that brought the Bible to the people.


It was the Church that decided the canon of the Bible, guided by the Holy Spirit.
It was the Church that preserved ther Word, and TRANSLATED it.
The Catholic Church produced the first ACCURATE vernacular Bibles (nearly a hundred years before the King James Version)
The first printed Bible was a Catholic Bible

The Church never tried to keep the Bible from the people. It did, however, try to stop false and inaccurate versions from spreading. When accurate transaltions were avialble, the Church sprerad them. The Protestants never lied this and so spread the lie about the Church tryiong to keep the Word from the people. You are just repeating that lie.

They DID try to supress it to the people and their excuse for hiding the truth was that people might be susceptible to "private interpretations" and rampant heresy.... as if there aren't any private interpretations of Scripture in the RCC...

[MrBiddle]

Don't worry I use New American Bible: The New Catholic Translation... but when the Church says "We are the One True Mystical Body" and when they say Traditions along with the Scriptures are written word, Christians with reservations (and being wise by having so) will respond: That is what is in question

Traditions weren't in any of the "documents", - the ones widely used in churches in the early days for practice of truth and doctrinal instructions, compiled to what we know today as The Bible.

No one can take credit for forming the Bible much like the Jews or Romans cannot take credit for putting Him on the cross... we are all the axe of the wielder and the clay of the potter.