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    Quote Originally Posted by sanggano_boy View Post
    Yes, you're right that Jesus never spoke about violating or changing any Mosaic law. But he can give new commandments?

    John 13:34
    A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

    Luke 22:20
    In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.

    Mark 7:18
    "Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'?

    Salvation of soul is more important than eating pork!


    Paul knew about this things. because the Lord Jesus Christ commissioned him to be the apostle for the gentiles

    Acts 22:21
    21"Then the Lord said to me, 'Go; I will send you far away to the Gentiles.' "


    How can you say that Paul heretic?. The fact that Peter mentioned Paul's letter.
    2 Peter 3:15-16

    15Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction


    That's why the Jews persecuted the Christians because they can't accept their testimony. But the apostles knew what's the truth. They have witness the great revelation of God through Jesus Christ.
    AS what Crom says...binalik na kini...tan-awa lang akong tubag.

    maybe he can give new commandments but the question is did he made a new commandment concerning demolishing the Mosaic law on pork meat? asa man?

    Paul was persecuted because he was considered as a heretic sa mga pioneering fathers of the Jerusalem church.

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    ayaw kataw-i ang igorot bro. diha raba atong kagikan...
    mao bitaw , dili sad nato kataw-an ang muslim , kay cla mao atong lolo sa lolo sa lolo .

    ato lng cla palawayon sa lechon, humba, sisig, sinugbang baboy hhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm....

    u miss half ur life ug dili mo moka-on baboy.

    giluod ang mga muslim ahhahahahahaa

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    Quote Originally Posted by cromagnon View Post
    mao bitaw , dili sad nato kataw-an ang muslim , kay cla mao atong lolo sa lolo sa lolo .

    ato lng cla palawayon sa lechon, humba, sisig, sinugbang baboy hhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm....

    u miss half ur life ug dili mo moka-on baboy.

    giluod ang mga muslim ahhahahahahaa

    wow what ingun ani na jud ka ka low crom? squatter kaayo ka ug batasan. hehehe

    by the way dili mi lod-on ana...

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    ahhhh grabe sad nang squater oi .

    ingon ra gani tag palawayon. low na dayon by flo rida.

    i respect u guys. lahi rajud nang dili ka palahubog na tao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cromagnon View Post
    ahhhh grabe sad nang squater oi .

    ingon ra gani tag palawayon. low na dayon by flo rida.

    i respect u guys. lahi rajud nang dili ka palahubog na tao.

    then dont act like one crom.

  6. #496
    Quote Originally Posted by sanggano_boy View Post
    Yes, you're right that Jesus never spoke about violating or changing any Mosaic law. But he can give new commandments?

    John 13:34
    A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

    Luke 22:20
    In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.

    Mark 7:18
    "Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'?

    Salvation of soul is more important than eating pork!


    Paul knew about this things. because the Lord Jesus Christ commissioned him to be the apostle for the gentiles

    Acts 22:21
    21"Then the Lord said to me, 'Go; I will send you far away to the Gentiles.' "


    How can you say that Paul heretic?. The fact that Peter mentioned Paul's letter.
    2 Peter 3:15-16

    15Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction


    That's why the Jews persecuted the Christians because they can't accept their testimony. But the apostles knew what's the truth. They have witness the great revelation of God through Jesus Christ.


    Please read Mark 7:1-23 to really know the whole story and not just a single verse.

    First, the context of Mark 7 was the Pharisees complaint that Jesus' disciples did not wash their hands in the tradition of the elders (Mark 7:1-3)--it had nothing to do with unclean meats. If it did, the Pharisees would have most likely raised this charge against Jesus when they brought Jesus before Pilate. In case Jesus' meaning was unclear, in Matthew's synoptic account he plainly taught what He meant: "to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man" (Matt 15:20).

    Secondly, Jesus did not consider all animals to be food. If Jesus declared all animals to be clean, would the Bible still use unclean animals as symbols of uncleanliness? In Matt 13:47-48, Jesus tells a parable about fishing with a net and catching "every kind" and then separating the good from the bad; possibly meaning the clean from the unclean--there would be no "bad" if Jesus was declaring all meats as clean. In Luk 11:11-12, Jesus teaches that bread, fish, and eggs, but not stones, serpents (snakes, an unclean animal), or scorpions are good for food (see parallel account in Matt 7:9-11). Unclean animals are never mentioned as food anywhere in the New Testament--they are either mentioned as beasts of burden (Jn 12:15) or mentioned in a negative fashion (Matt 7:9-11; Luk 11:11-12; Rev 16:13; 18:2).

    Thirdly, after the incident in Mar 7 (and Mat 15) Jesus said, "Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel" (Mat 23:24). Thus Jesus apparently still considered gnats and camels to be unclean, thus this verifies that He never declared all animals to be clean.


    But I like pork. Will God destroy me if I eat it?

    "For, behold, the Lord will come with fire ... and by his sword will the Lord plead with all flesh: and the slain of the Lord shall be many. They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves ... eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the Lord." Isaiah 66:15-17.

    Answer:

    This may be shocking, but it is true and must be told. The Bible positively states that all who eat "swine's flesh," the "mouse," and other unclean things that are an "abomination" will be destroyed with fire at the coming of the Lord. When God says to leave something alone and not eat it, we should by all means obey Him. After all, the mere eating of a piece of forbidden fruit by Adam and Eve, a sinless couple, brought sin and death to this world in the first place. Can anyone say it doesn't matter, when God so clearly shows it does? God says men will be destroyed because they "chose that in which I delighted not." Isaiah 66:4.


    But didn't this law of clean and unclean animals originate at Sinai? Wasn't it for the Jews only, and didn't it end at the cross?

    "And the Lord said unto Noah, ... Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens ... and of beasts that are not clean by two." Genesis 7:1, 2.

    Answer:

    No indeed! The Bible has ample evidence that there were clean and unclean animals from the very dawn of Creation. Noah lived long before any Jews existed, but he knew of the clean and unclean, because he took into the ark the clean animals by "sevens" and the unclean by "twos." Revelation 18:2 refers to some birds as being unclean just before the second coming of Christ. The death of Christ had no altering effect whatever on these health laws, since the Bible says that all who break them will be destroyed when Jesus returns (Isaiah 66:15-17). The Jew's stomach and digestive system in no way differs from that of a Gentile. These health laws are for all people for all time.

  7. #497
    Quote Originally Posted by cromagnon View Post
    mao bitaw , dili sad nato kataw-an ang muslim , kay cla mao atong lolo sa lolo sa lolo .

    ato lng cla palawayon sa lechon, humba, sisig, sinugbang baboy hhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm....

    u miss half ur life ug dili mo moka-on baboy.

    giluod ang mga muslim ahhahahahahaa
    alegre manis dodong crom woi
    dli man mga muslim ang mag miss half of thier lives kun dli mukaon ug baboy--nabali guro nimo

  8. #498
    ^joke is a joke btaw , let's not make it serious . nor disrespect others.

    "Men cant live by pork alone."

    aheheheheeh

  9. #499
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    wow what ingun ani na jud ka ka low crom? squatter kaayo ka ug batasan. hehehe

    by the way dili mi lod-on ana...
    unsay squatter nga pirting squaterra na2 krn dri sa pinas ky dako natag utang sa world bank!

    birahonon na ni a2 country kng dli ta kabayad. lol!!

  10. #500
    ^hoi pang bunalan tamo run, cge lng mo lalis dah

    nasulbad ug natubag naman na..nahala biyai nlng ni...

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