Communicating With Spirits

[silverhawk]

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Hello Rcruman,

You wrote:

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"Bro if we base it in the bible spirit of the dead people are not yet in Heaven."

Hard time understanding? I understand that people are communicating spirits of the dead which is prohibited by God. SImple disobedience if they believed in GOD.

Peace!
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I don't know if you're a Catholic but the way you deliberate your posts makes me think that you're not a Catholic. Are you a member of Dating Daan? Anyways, the reason why I ask that question is because Catholic believes on Saints.

Just for intellectual discussion sake, how do you explain those who died and was canonized as Saints by the Catholic Church? Catholics also acknowledge the role of Saints in their spiritual life, that's why they also pray to the Saints. In my understanding about these Saints, they are humans who passed away and active in their spiritual work / life. Like Pope John Paul II, soon he will become a Saint and pray to him as well. Does it mean that Catholics are evil?

Saint = A person officially recognized, especially by canonization, as being entitled to public veneration and capable of interceding for people on earth.

When we say entitled for public veneration, meaning with awe, respect and worship.

When we communicate with the Saints (humans who passed away), we contact them as Spirit (tho this is popularly used for Paranormal enthusiast). This goes with a question: "What's the difference between Spirit and a Ghost?" - When they say the Holy Spirit or the Holy Ghost?.

Holy or Not still they are Spirits.

I'm sure this thread will become a number one hit here in istorya.net! LOL...kidding. :mrgreen:

No offense Rcruman, I enjoy your discussion because I really wanted to ask these same questions to the priests / pastor / religion teacher. And for the other forum members, feel free to join the discussion.


Silver Hawk
http://www.cebuparanormalsociety.com/forum (you are also invited to join our humble forum)

P.S. Soon I will organize Feng Shui Convention by 2008. I have a contact from Manila who is an author and conduct Feng Shui Classes in Manila and some Real Estate companies. For those who are interested please message me. Thanks.

[barcode 999]

i wish i can communicate with the spirits!
daghan pa jud kaayo ko unfinish business sa mga nangamatay
i wish i can say FORGIVE ME kay wala jud ko kasulti ana katong buhi pa sila

[zabadak]

i wish i can communicate with the spirits!
daghan pa jud kaayo ko unfinish business sa mga nangamatay
i wish i can say FORGIVE ME kay wala jud ko kasulti ana katong buhi pa sila

daghan diay ka'g atraso sa mga nangamatay bro? kuyawa ana oi! wa na gyud kai mahimo ana bro kay patay naman tu sila... kanta nalang ug "kamingaw sa payag" bro.. he,he,he

[silverhawk]

i wish i can communicate with the spirits!
daghan pa jud kaayo ko unfinish business sa mga nangamatay
i wish i can say FORGIVE ME kay wala jud ko kasulti ana katong buhi pa sila

I think you can still ask forgiveness by offering some prayers.

Tho this is not what I did when I visited Simala last Sunday (November 4) to offer some prayers to my grandma who passed away. BTW, my grandma is very instrumental in my understanding with the Paranormal because she was gifted. A healer, can interpret penmanship and read the past, present and future and also knows face reading. I learned this Art of Photo Reading weeks before she died. She passed away on September 2007 and weeks after...after the 40 days of prayers, she communicated through my friend, the one I shared with this thread.


Silver Hawk
http://www.cebuparanormalsociety.com/forum (you are also invited to join our humble forum)

P.S. Soon I will organize Feng Shui Convention by 2008. I have a contact from Manila who is an author and conduct Feng Shui Classes in Manila and some Real Estate companies. For those who are interested please message me. Thanks.

[Sinyalan]

Condolences, silverhawk.

Anyway, my FMA grandmaster is gifted... he can sense danger when is near. He said that few "ghosts" visited him and told him when he was at a younger age to make something (amulet) and carry it whenever he may go. The sense that he get is his entire body is going to be hot that people near him can feel his skin as if his burning with fire. He may have spoken to "something" or "someone" but considering that our culture is full of mysterious entity.

[Oakboy]

@rcruman
respect the thread author ayaw pag wali diha samoka anang mga verses nimo diha oi..communicating with spirits ang discussion loboga nimo oi..

[silverhawk]

Condolences, silverhawk.

Anyway, my FMA grandmaster is gifted... he can sense danger when is near. He said that few "ghosts" visited him and told him when he was at a younger age to make something (amulet) and carry it whenever he may go. The sense that he get is his entire body is going to be hot that people near him can feel his skin as if his burning with fire. He may have spoken to "something" or "someone" but considering that our culture is full of mysterious entity.

What's FMA?

It never ceases to amaze me with people who are gifted. BTW, I'm an avid fan of Heroes.

Watch the Season 2 at http://www.cebuparanormalsociety.com...hp?topic=303.0

[Sinyalan]

What's FMA?

It never ceases to amaze me with people who are gifted. BTW, I'm an avid fan of Heroes.

Watch the Season 2 at http://www.cebuparanormalsociety.com...hp?topic=303.0

FMA? FILIPINO MARTIAL ARTS.

I used to watch Heroes episodes but now, it gets more like Smallville TV Series.

[rcruman]

Hello Rcruman,
I don't know if you're a Catholic but the way you deliberate your posts makes me think that you're not a Catholic. Are you a member of Dating Daan? Anyways, the reason why I ask that question is because Catholic believes on Saints.

I do believed on saints but not in figure/relics/rebolto.
There are saints in the bible, and you don't have to be dead in order to be labelled as saint.

Just for intellectual discussion sake, how do you explain those who died and was canonized as Saints by the Catholic Church? Catholics also acknowledge the role of Saints in their spiritual life, that's why they also pray to the Saints. In my understanding about these Saints, they are humans who passed away and active in their spiritual work / life. Like Pope John Paul II, soon he will become a Saint and pray to him as well. Does it mean that Catholics are evil?

"pray to the saints" in what verse in the bible it was commanded?
We should course through our prayer to Jesus CHrist as mediator, no other else.
See the difference? in the bible its Jesus Christ but in other Church they course through Saint (where in the bible?).
Give you a hint, everyone in Catholic Faith can be saint if you will pay a certain amount.
A hint also, Catholic Faith ruled in Philippines for 500+ years and how many saint Catholic Filipino has? Lorenzo Ruiz is a half Chinese.

here are living saints in the bible:
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11

2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both their's and our's:
1 Corinthians 1:2

Saint = A person officially recognized, especially by canonization, as being entitled to public veneration and capable of interceding for people on earth.

With the verses I've given you above it shows that the bible has different meaning of saint than what you've given (is it from Catholic Encyclopedia?).
In the bible the saint are called and sanctified but in your given definition it must be canonized, recognized and etc.

and we should course through our prayer to Christ not to saints.

1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1 John 2:1.

Where in the bible that we should pray to saints/human in order it will reach to the Father? let us be biblical.

When we communicate with the Saints (humans who passed away), we contact them as Spirit (tho this is popularly used for Paranormal enthusiast). This goes with a question: "What's the difference between Spirit and a Ghost?" - When they say the Holy Spirit or the Holy Ghost?.

are all human spirits that you've communicated are Saints?
Spirit and Ghost are the same in the bible.

PEace!

[rcruman]

@rcruman
respect the thread author ayaw pag wali diha samoka anang mga verses nimo diha oi..communicating with spirits ang discussion loboga nimo oi..

bro, wala ko naglubog nangutana ra ko.
Og nitubag ang author so okay ra sa iyaha.
Gawas kung si silverhawk ang mobawal kay pila ray pagundang.
tara iya ingon ay:

Hello Rcruman,
No offense Rcruman, I enjoy your discussion because I really wanted to ask these same questions to the priests / pastor / religion teacher. And for the other forum members, feel free to join the discussion.

Nalubog or nakutaw imo pagtoo?

Peace!