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[Mrpogi]

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I am here to join "Website and Multimedia" forum. I'm not here for any discussion/"case-study-presentation" of any "Philippine laws".

[13thProphet]

I am here to join "Website and Multimedia" forum. I'm not here for any discussion/"study-case-presentation" of any "Philippine laws".

Just because some people can back up their arguments with concrete facts such as laws doesn't mean it's a "study-case-presentation". And even if it were, I don't see how this is bad in any way.

[Mrpogi]

Just because some people can back up their arguments with concrete facts such as laws doesn't mean it's a "study-case-presentation". And even if it were, I don't see how this is bad in any way.

If you really think you have a case, just don't back up your arguments with "Philippine Laws" since jurisdiction wise....it's not applicable and that makes your "facts" ridiculous. If we really follow your line of thinking, therefore I could also say that....I will just use the "Chinese laws or maybe just the Pakistani Laws to try this case or whatever county, country or state that I think I am comfortable using.

Can we just use the Iraqi laws in this case? What do you think?

[DrE]

To Mrpogi:

First of all, why are you taking this personally? Can we not act professionally here? Are you forgetting that this is a FORUM site? A forum is a place where people can share their opinions on a given matter. If you signed up thinking that people are going to agree with everything you say then maybe you should have just joined a CLUB or something. What you're trying to do is contradict the very essence of a forum.

Apparently he cant help it as he said to me. Anything you say negative will be construed as ugly business mentality. What was so wrong with the suggestion of coming up with his own brand? Would have settled everyones concerns regarding legitimacy. He doesn't have to follow it of course but he didn't have to go personal on it.

Mrpogi you don,t have to defend yourself or your site to any member here. However don't simply discredit the scenarios they might think of that could happen no matter how small the chance.

If you really think you have a case, just don't back up your arguments with "Philippine Laws" since jurisdiction wise....it's not applicable and that makes your "facts" ridiculous. If we really follow your line of thinking, therefore I could also say that....I will just use the "Chinese laws or maybe just the Pakistani Laws to try this case or whatever county, country or state that I think I am comfortable using.

Can we just use the Iraqi laws in this case? What do you think?

You are already getting way of topic here. If you created this thread to promote your site then please do. (Within the rules posted by the admin).

[13thProphet]

If you really think you have a case, just don't back up your arguments with "Philippine Laws" since jurisdiction wise....it's not applicable and that makes your "facts" ridiculous. If we really follow your line of thinking, therefore I could also say that....I will just use the "Chinese laws or maybe just the Pakistani Laws to try this case or whatever county, country or state that I think I am comfortable using.

Can we just use the Iraqi laws in this case? What do you think?

You really don't get how these laws work don't you?

International Body creates treaties --> Different countries (including Phils.) signs treaties --> Philippines enact local laws enforcing such treaties

Hence, the laws that we have here are pretty much alike in the USA or any other countries that signed those treaties. A very basic principle in Intellectual Property law is that they are an international matter and not only local. Hence, countries harmonize their laws so that they are applicable not only in their jurisdictions but also in other jurisdictions as well.

Before you continue labeling people's arguments, please do the necessary research. Even basic principles would suffice.

[borgy1981]

nice analogy bro....

[Mrpogi]

You are already getting way of topic here. If you created this thread to promote your site then please do. (Within the rules posted by the admin).

I would like to remind you that I was the one who created this topic to promote my site. Now I'm the one who's off my own topic. I don't see any logic in there. Or did I miss something? Is this the "legal advisory" forum? I thought this was "Website and Multimedia" forum where we promote sites not bring them down. Did I ask for any advice on legal matters regarding intellectual properties? NO.

If you have legal issues, make your own thread on the right forum.

[Mrpogi]

You really don't get how these laws work don't you?

International Body creates treaties --> Different countries (including Phils.) signs treaties --> Philippines enact local laws enforcing such treaties

Hence, the laws that we have here are pretty much alike in the USA or any other countries that signed those treaties. A very basic principle in Intellectual Property law is that they are an international matter and not only local. Hence, countries harmonize their laws so that they are applicable not only in their jurisdictions but also in other jurisdictions as well.

Before you continue labeling people's arguments, please do the necessary research. Even basic principles would suffice.

Violation of IP laws carry both criminal and civil aspects. To be held liable in a civil case, criminal intent is not an element unlike in a criminal case. Hence, whether or not you intend to mislead the public is irrelevant to be held civilly liable.

The mere fact that you are operating a site called YoutubeCebu already brings you into that scenario. The "potential" of misleading the public is only the effect of a consummated act.

Since you are the one who brings this question up, by basic rule you are the one with the burden of proof.

The U.S. Constitution says : The Congress shall have Power ... to promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries. (coining the words of You and Tube does not warrant any intellectual property rights, thereby granting them sole rights to these words is unfounded)

That simple sentence has some important points.

1. Intellectual property is not a natural right but instead a legislative grant -- a social construct.

2. Intellectual property rights are granted in order to promote progress, not primarily to secure benefits to inventors.

3. They are for a limited time.

If you think any of these provisions of the U.S. constitution do not agree to your treaties, then you are contradicting your own claim.
If on the other hand you agree to these provisions, then this whole argument we are having has just ended right here. Either way, you have just contradicted yourself.

This is just to give you some help on your burden of proof. But like I said, go beyond the limited pages of the Philippine constitution.

If you think the practice of law in different countries is similar and universal, that renders the state bar examinations for different states in the U.S a very dumb process. Do you have any clue of how the U.S federal laws work in relation to its state laws and city ordinances?

Give you one example, even the banning of smoking in public is decided upon in the city level. That's how unique the laws of a free country should be. And now you are telling me what works in the Philippines basically works everywhere else. Good try. But try harder next time.

[Mrpogi]

nice analogy bro....

Where's the analogy?

[borgy1981]

Where's the analogy?

sori logic d.i...karon pako kabalik ani nga thread dah....