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  1. #41

    Default Re: What can you say about progressive groups like bayan muna,akbayan,and partylist


    Mao ra gyud na ang buhat ani na groups sige samok2 bisan kinsa pa molingkod sa gobyerno dli gyud na sila uyon kay ang gusto nila na ang communista maoy modala sa gobyerno, unya sugot mo ana communista ato goberno daghan man gani kaau ta reklamo karon na democratic ato government samot na og ma communista ta.

  2. #42

    Default Re: What can you say about progressive groups like bayan muna,akbayan,and partylist

    based on my sources, these are fronts of the CCP-NPA.....

  3. #43

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    Commies. A waste of our tax (perteng dakoa na raba).

  4. #44

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    ako, murag ok ra ko naa ni cla. i think having a partylist has been debated over and over by our think-tanks before deciding on this. ang akoa lang, ang mga dagko ra kaayo nga issues ilang gibunalan ug maayo sa media and rallies. how about the small & medium issues for the common tao?


  5. #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by radiostar
    na.a kay ibedensya bro anang imo gipang sulti? na gi gamit ang pork barrell against the government? read bayan muna's website dha na.ay liquidation report sa tanan kwarta gikan sa pork barrell...

    Good Day! I may not have "concrete evidence" that the pork barrel of these groups are used against the government, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to analyze that it is or it's probably being done. So who's pocket does expenses incurred during rallies/mass gatherings/protest actions (effigies, banners, streamers, food, transpo, etc.) come from? Anonymous & well-meaning individuals? Foundations? These activities are not CHEAP as you know, so I doubt if these "other" sources of money to fund such activities have "deep" enough pockets to sustain such form of financial support. If the pork barrel allocation of party-list groups is really used for "productive" activities then good for it's beneficiaries. Regardless, RALLYING will get us nowhere (it has been happening since the time of MARCOS, CORY, RAMOS, ERAP, & now GMA). If you are really sincere with your intentions why not do so for changing our current form of government, do your share to making sure we really put the REAL LEADERS into office. PEACE!



  6. #46

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    kini sila Beltran ug Casino mga congressman naman gyud ni sila,
    can someone please educate me on what they have done so far as honorable congressmen?
    bills, resolution or laws or unsa pa diha.
    nagdawat ba sad ni sila ug pork barrel?
    kumusta man ila statement of accounts and liability (that they submit annually) ?
    how many terms naman sila na-congressman?


  7. #47

    Default Re: What can you say about progressive groups like bayan muna,akbayan,and partyl

    pareha sila nga naay word nga "bayan"

  8. #48

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm
    Good Day! I may not have "concrete evidence" that the pork barrel of these groups are used against the government, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to analyze that it is or it's probably being done. So who's pocket does expenses incurred during rallies/mass gatherings/protest actions (effigies, banners, streamers, food, transpo, etc.) come from? Anonymous & well-meaning individuals? Foundations? These activities are not CHEAP as you know, so I doubt if these "other" sources of money to fund such activities have "deep" enough pockets to sustain such form of financial support. If the pork barrel allocation of party-list groups is really used for "productive" activities then good for it's beneficiaries. Regardless, RALLYING will get us nowhere (it has been happening since the time of MARCOS, CORY, RAMOS, ERAP, & now GMA). If you are really sincere with your intentions why not do so for changing our current form of government, do your share to making sure we really put the REAL LEADERS into office. PEACE!


    These groups obviously use the pork barrel of their representatives in Congress to finance the rallies they conduct or probably to pay hakot crowd from the masa to join them in these street protests. Maybe if one will take pictures of the rallyists everytime there are mass actions, one will notice that they are the same persons. Most of them teenagers who are still unripe in terms of understanding of political issues. So the nest time you see these groups rallying around, do not be fooled. Most of the participants do not know what they are fighting for.

  9. #49

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    i think they're doing their best to balance the political/social spectrum...our brand of politics and governance is undoubtedly biased towards the rich or the elite...we need them to represent the marginalized sectors.

  10. #50

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    i think these groups are doing what they need to do but sometimes it looks like they are doing the things they want to do.

    1. they need to do those
    2. they want to do those things

    i just hope that sometimes they will think or categories the issues that needs to be rallied upon.
    there are small things and there are big things .

    1. the people of the philippines knows when to go out to the road and voice out what is on our mind , please dont take it away from us.

    2. before you do rally - think of a solution , solution on how you present rally
    3. dont bring too much people , some of them get interviewed but dont know what the reason why they are there

    4. i guess its better to get tax from these groups , and let those who joined get signed up , write their reasons.

    5. 1 issue per person , no same person one different issue , get a maximum of 50 people .. thats enough people in the government are not deaf and blind

    6. stop talking or using the name of the people , some of us are not interested in some issues you are taking about . we know our part so talk only for your part

    7. can you do something as a group and let the government rally on you too ? or let the government comment on your work as a group ?

    8. for these groups - can you just stop demanding gloria to go down - i mean when was the first time we didnt comment against our president ? are we against gloria or are we against the president position itself ? or are we just interested to exercise or freedom of speech ?

    9. if you comment to any president , can the government give these groups leader a whole month to let the leader be our president for a while ?

    10. again stop barking our president , its no use , we are sick of listening to you people barking a president . i hope your members will rally on you too. can we rally against your group too ?

    11. look for a job , stop working on streets , we are sick of looking at you . for 100 years we already know that past presidents as you said corrupt and must go down . it hurts the ears .

    12. always remember that we need not to complain if we dont have a contribution to the government as a tax payer . if you dont have a job then you have no right to complain, you have no contribution to the government

    13. if you have no job and the government is corrupt then it means the government is not stealing from you but to us who pay taxes , so shut up.

    14. you are a filipino - you have the right to help yourself , responsibility to help the government ,

    15. if you have no job - no education - it is not our governments problem or responsibility - its your parents and its your mistake.

    16. you are a part of the government - if there are only 10 persons in a government - and 5 has no job - as a part of the jobless you made your government a weak and poor government ..

    17. as a jobless and irresponsible - that makes our government a weak and poor one . then we have the right to rally against you ..

    18. please senators - make a law that only people who has job has the right to rally on streets cause its us that makes the government strong , its us who work for these countrry .

    19. jobless - watch us rally for you ..

    20. may you understand who are the government - its us after all

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