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  1. #41

    Default Re: Rites of Brotherhood.


    Quote Originally Posted by botslob
    korek ka diyan brad. pabaga-ay sa kubal aron di madutlan. hazing maka loyal? mag-unay paman gani ang mga igsoon kana pang di parente!
    Mao jd. I cannot find any way to equate hazing with loyalty. How can someone be loyal to a group who has beaten the hell out of him? There is no logical proof that it will make a brother loyal. Bsag knang amigo na sukad pagkabata k mag-unay pmn gni ang uban. No point in hazing...

  2. #42

    Default Re: Rites of Brotherhood.

    Quote Originally Posted by 0.5331534
    Mao jd. I cannot find any way to equate hazing with loyalty. How can someone be loyal to a group who has beaten the hell out of him? There is no logical proof that it will make a brother loyal. Bsag knang amigo na sukad pagkabata k mag-unay pmn gni ang uban. No point in hazing...
    hehehe...bunal bunalan para unayon rag tiklo later. d ko momention sa frat pero tinood gyud ni. iyang brad giutangan hangtod karon wa na gyud mopakita. loyal mo utang unya sibat kung y ikabayad. nindot na nga loyalty ug brotherhood kay sa makauna lang ug pahimus. hehehe

  3. #43

    Default Re: Rites of Brotherhood.

    Quote Originally Posted by JX
    The term "organization" shall include any club or the Armed Forces of the Philippines, Philippine National Police, Philippine Military Academy, or officer and cadet corp of the Citizen's Military Training and Citizen's Army Training. The physical, mental and psychological testing and training procedure and practices to determine and enhance the physical, mental and psychological fitness of prospective regular members of the Armed Forces of the Philippines and the Philippine National Police as approved by the Secretary of National Defense and the National Police Commission duly recommended by the Chief of Staff, Armed Forces of the Philippines and the Director General of the Philippine National Police shall not be considered as hazing for the purposes of this Act.

    Section 1. Hazing, as used in this Act, is an initiation rite or practice as a prerequisite for admission into membership in a fraternity, sorority or organization by placing the recruit, neophyte or applicant in some embarrassing or humiliating situations such as forcing him to do menial, silly, foolish and other similar tasks or activities or otherwise subjecting him to physical or psychological suffering or injury.

    Section 3. The head of the school or organization or their representatives must assign at least two (2) representatives of the school or organization, as the case may be, to be present during the initiation. It is the duty of such representative to see to it that no physical harm of any kind shall be inflicted upon a recruit, neophyte or applicant.

    Section 4. If the person subjected to hazing or other forms of initiation rites suffers any physical injury or dies as a result thereof, the officers and members of the fraternity, sorority or organization who actually participated in the infliction of physical harm shall be liable as principals. The person or persons who participated in the hazing shall suffer:

    -Republic Act 8049 (Anti-Hazing Law)

    Hazing is not totally illegal; only physical harm is illegal in hazing.

    @LytSlpr

    physical hazing btaw ang gbawal sa Act. If i may ask, naa pa ang paddling sa TGP? hehe,
    What the heck are you talking about?

    We are very aware of these things and NO it is not only physical hazing ang bawal.

    and officially TGP does not practice physical hazing anymore nor the the leaders order it. if some members still practice it then, ilaha na na.

  4. #44

    Default Re: Rites of Brotherhood.

    Quote Originally Posted by 0.5331534
    Hazing does not make a brother 100% loyal to the fraternity - but it may prove that he can withstand violent encounters against rival fraternities... Hehehe...
    why did you not finish the entire article?

    it was like quoting what i personally said which makes your post misleading and malicious.

  5. #45

    Default Re: Rites of Brotherhood.

    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr
    why did you not finish the entire article?

    it was like quoting what i personally said which makes your post misleading and malicious.
    Senxa na bai, no intent of putting any misleading thought regarding your post... Ako ra gigamit katu ra na part to sight my post. And i did finish reading the entire article.

  6. #46

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    @LytSlpr

    kindly review the Act because i dont see the connection of the representatives and the quantum doloris..

  7. #47

    Default Re: Rites of Brotherhood.

    Quote Originally Posted by JX
    @LytSlpr

    kindly review the Act because i dont see the connection of the representatives and the quantum doloris..
    i did not mean the act, i meant the definition of the word.

    of course non-physical is not stated in the act because our lawmakers are a bunch of idiots. your 2 examples on the other hand can barely leave a trauma on the most sensitive individual.

    try MY examples, the neophyte is subjected to bartolina or exposed to his phobias. they did not include that in the act, did they? and you can barely prosecute someone who commits this act and more.

    so you see, the word hazing is quite vague.

  8. #48

    Default Re: Rites of Brotherhood.

    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr
    i did not mean the act, i meant the definition of the word.
    wrong ang definition sa word nga hazing nga ghatag sa Act? hehe. how come?

    What the heck are you talking about?
    We are very aware of these things and NO it is not only physical hazing ang bawal.
    dli lang physical hazing ang bawal? hehe,

    of course non-physical is not stated in the act because our lawmakers are a bunch of idiots. your 2 examples on the other hand can barely leave a trauma on the most sensitive individual.
    nag.regulate lng ang act sa Hazing sa fraternities.. bunch of idiots ang lawmakers? hehe.
    Idiots diay nang mo.regulate sa physical violence sa fraternities? Pila ma'y namatay sa psychological harm? pila'y namatay sa physical harm?

    try MY examples, the neophyte is subjected to bartolina or exposed to his phobias. they did not include that in the act, did they? and you can barely prosecute someone who commits this act and more.
    bartolina? sakop ghapon na sa physical violence.. bantayan ghapon na sa representatives unta..
    i.bartolina ug 3 days? max of days for hazing according to the Act. Pro knahanglan pod na tagaan nimo ug h2o, food, etc, bec. mao man pod gisulti sa human rights..
    phobias? when presented gani ang tao sa iyang phobia, mo.release ang part of the brain(amygdala) ug hormones sa lawas pra mahimong nka.alert state ang lawas and mo.react, pwede mosukol, modagan, or molikay, once pugson gyud sa nag.hazing, there could be violence nga mahitabo, and again, bantayan napod na representatives unta..
    And also, once mwala na ang nka.cause sa phobia, automatically, normal napod ang pangutok sa naa'y phobia, dli na magbilin ug anxiety or depression, except naa ghapon ang phobia..

    so you see, the word hazing is quite vague.
    g.define btaw ang word nga Hazing sa Act. "Hazing, as used in this Act", dha ra nga scope kutob..

  9. #49

    Default Re: Rites of Brotherhood.

    Quote Originally Posted by JX
    wrong ang definition sa word nga hazing nga ghatag sa Act? hehe. how come?
    it's not wrong but incomplete.

    Quote Originally Posted by JX
    dli lang physical hazing ang bawal? hehe,
    di bitaw..

    Quote Originally Posted by JX
    nag.regulate lng ang act sa Hazing sa fraternities.. bunch of idiots ang lawmakers? hehe.
    Idiots diay nang mo.regulate sa physical violence sa fraternities? Pila ma'y namatay sa psychological harm? pila'y namatay sa physical harm?
    if they were smart they should have law enabling HAZING in general. again, yes they are idiots!

    Quote Originally Posted by JX
    bartolina? sakop ghapon na sa physical violence.. bantayan ghapon na sa representatives unta..
    i.bartolina ug 3 days? max of days for hazing according to the Act. Pro knahanglan pod na tagaan nimo ug h2o, food, etc, bec. mao man pod gisulti sa human rights..
    phobias? when presented gani ang tao sa iyang phobia, mo.release ang part of the brain(amygdala) ug hormones sa lawas pra mahimong nka.alert state ang lawas and mo.react, pwede mosukol, modagan, or molikay, once pugson gyud sa nag.hazing, there could be violence nga mahitabo, and again, bantayan napod na representatives unta..
    And also, once mwala na ang nka.cause sa phobia, automatically, normal napod ang pangutok sa naa'y phobia, dli na magbilin ug anxiety or depression, except naa ghapon ang phobia..
    hahaaay, pagka technical na lang gyud nimo dodong. sakop sa physical violence? CAN YOU PROVE IT?! this is not law school. if i put you in a bartolina or expose you to your phobia as a neophyte, YOU CAN'T PROVE IT IN COURT coz you are a willing victim and you won't have any witnesses to your side.

    Quote Originally Posted by JX
    g.define btaw ang word nga Hazing sa Act. "Hazing, as used in this Act", dha ra nga scope kutob..
    HUH? Gi define? ikaw ra ga ingon, diha RA ANG SCOPE kutob. so it's an inutile law.

  10. #50

    Default Re: Rites of Brotherhood.

    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr
    it's not wrong but incomplete.
    ngano incomplete man?
    sa balaod gani, if naa'y technical term nga broad/daghan ug meaning, i.state gyud specifically kung unsa nga meaning ang buot ipasabot aron klaro, and kung unsa ang nakabutang didto, adto ra pod kutob, dli na manglagpas.. hehe,

    di bitaw..
    aw da, basaha nya sabta.. hehe.

    if they were smart they should have law enabling HAZING in general. again, yes they are idiots!
    laws nga dli specific but in general? smart move gyud.. hehehe, saon..

    hahaaay, pagka technical na lang gyud nimo dodong. sakop sa physical violence? CAN YOU PROVE IT?! this is not law school. if i put you in a bartolina or expose you to your phobia as a neophyte, YOU CAN'T PROVE IT IN COURT coz you are a willing victim and you won't have any witnesses to your side.
    abi nko ang argument is ang Act.(nya dli ka ug technicality?)
    Pro cge nlng.. hehe,
    Ngano maabot man pod sa court? Naa'y namatay? It all goes down on liability..
    Kaw na mismo nag.ingon willing victim, nya moreklamo?

    HUH? Gi define? ikaw ra ga ingon, diha RA ANG SCOPE kutob. so it's an inutile law.
    basaha lagi unya sabta..
    kinahanglan man gyud naa'y scope ang balaod.. dont you think? hehe,
    pareha ra gud na sa pinakasimple nga bawal ang mopatay.. if generalized, hasta ang mga sundaw nga mipatay, mapriso? mao nang naa'y scope ang balaod.. hehe,
    its an inutile law gyud kay dli man sundon ug dli pod strictly enforced.. Pro sa imong giingon nga nkahibaw na mo ana, gsunod man kha ninyo? kung wla.. kamo ra pod nagpa.inutil ug samot.. hehe,

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