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    Default Re: God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)


    Quote Originally Posted by shimiyu
    haha mura man ta'g on trial ani yjob.
    mao jud, perte na taasa sa imo explanation unya wa ka kabalo sa imo title pa lang diay sipyat na ka.

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    Default Re: God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)

    theism and deism:

    deism holds that God is wholly transcendent: God exists, but does not intervene in the world beyond what was necessary to create it.

    theism holds that God exists realistically, objectively, and independently of human thought; that God created and sustains everything; that God is omnipotent and eternal, and is personal, interested and answers prayer.

    -theism
    "God exists and this can be proven";
    "God exists, but this cannot be proven or disproven"

    Atheism is the position that either affirms the nonexistence of gods or rejects theism.

    -strong atheism
    "God does not exist"

    -de facto atheism
    "God almost certainly does not exist"

    -agnosticism
    "no one knows whether God exists"

    Agnostics claim either that it is not possible to have absolute or certain knowledge of the existence or nonexistence of God or gods

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    ARGUMENT FROM BRAINWASHING

    1. Christians claim that we have been brainwashed by secular colleges & universities in their futile thinking, and by secular reasoning.
    2. We can just as easily say that Christians have been brainwashed by churches and the clergy.
    3. Their brainwashing keeps them from the truth, rationality and freethought.
    4. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

    Distribution of religious beliefs:

    * Christianity 2.1 billion
    * Islam 1.3 billion
    * Secular/Irreligious/Agnostic/Atheism 1.1 billion
    * Hinduism 900 million
    * Chinese traditional religion 394 million
    * Buddhism 376 million
    * primal-indigenous 300 million
    * African Traditional & Diasporic 100 million
    * Sikhism 23 million
    * Juche 19 million
    * Spiritism 15 million
    * Judaism 14 million
    * Baha'i 7 million
    * Jainism 4.2 million
    * Shinto 4 million
    * Cao Dai 4 million
    * Zoroastrianism 2.6 million
    * Tenrikyo 2 million
    * Neo-Paganism 1 million
    * Unitarian-Universalism 800 thousand
    * Rastafarianism 600 thousand
    * Scientology 500 thousand

    God does exists.


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    ARGUMENT FROM PERCEIVED LACK OF DIFFERENCES

    1. I say that the Christian God isn’t any different than the gods of other religions.
    2. Therefore, the Christian God doesn’t exist.

    monotheism - holds that there is only one God, and/or that the one true God is worshiped in different religions under different names. The view that all religions are actually worshiping the same God, whether they know it or not, is especially emphasized in Hinduism.

    1.exclusivists - who believe they are the chosen people or have exclusive access to absolute truth, generally through revelation or encounter with the Divine.
    2.pluralists - typically believes that his religion is the right one, but does not deny the partial truth of other religions.
    3.relativistic inclusivists - where everybody is seen as equally right; an example in Christianity is universalism: the doctrine that salvation is eventually available for everyone.
    4. syncretists - mixing different elements from different religion.

    God does exists.


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    ARGUMENT FROM MEANNESS

    1. If God did exist, it would be mean of him to make me believe he didn’t!
    2. The Bible portrays God as mean.
    3. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

    dystheism - related to theodicy is a form of theism which holds that God is either not wholly-good or is fully malevolent as a consequence of the problem of evil.

    theodicy is a specific branch of theology and philosophy that attempts to reconcile the existence of evil or suffering in the world with the assumption of a benevolent God.

    God does exists.


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    ARGUMENT FROM NON-INSTRUMENTATION

    1. You are an theist.
    2. You did something bad.
    3. You are obviously not an instrument of God.
    4. God doesn’t exist.

    Theism is the belief in the existence of one or more divinities or deities.
    Being a theist doesnt make you a saint.

    God does exists.

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    Default Re: God's Existence Has Been DISPROVEN!!! (Well, Almost)

    Quote Originally Posted by YJOB
    mao jud, perte na taasa sa imo explanation unya wa ka kabalo sa imo title pa lang diay sipyat na ka.
    hehe easy lang, i didn't intend for that to be politically correct.

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    Unya... kinsa may nakakita sa God ninyo... ingna ko ug kita mo, kay pa-upaw ko! hehehe...

    Seriously though, the thread is a conclusive statement. Dont take this in a wrong way but how does anyone provide proof?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YJOB
    mao jud, perte na taasa sa imo explanation unya wa ka kabalo sa imo title pa lang diay sipyat na ka.
    Ok ra nang masipyat. Ang ginoo man gani sa bibliya sige man ug kasipyat nga omniscient man kunuhay unta siya.

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    ako wa pud ko kita ni GOD nako, but i know he is true and real to me, nya upao pud ko. hehe.

    wa pud ko kita hangin but tuo ko. sa ako utot wapud bat kabalo ko kung naay mangutot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.ho_chia2
    ako wa pud ko kita ni GOD nako, but i know he is true and real to me, nya upao pud ko. hehe.

    wa pud ko kita hangin but tuo ko. sa ako utot wapud bat kabalo ko kung naay mangutot.
    eeeenk, wrong analogy.

    you can quantify those things.... those can be measured.

    unlike your god....who you think exist.

    I have to admit, I believe in unseen things too. I believe my family loves me, that my cousins adore me, that I can make a difference in the world. But that's not on the same level as believing that there's an invisible being who created the world and will send my favorite uncle to hell because he doesn't believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalanrakas
    That is still wickedness 'coz by tolerating evil for some other purpose, god allows suffering on his people. Contradicting his supposed nature negates god.
    i agree

    the question of epicurus is perfectly logical and i think there is no way around it. a lot of people tried to solve the problem but nobody ever did.

    bsin si rcruman ra maka solve ani sa ka daghan philosophers ni attempt. hehehehe....

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    Quote Originally Posted by anti-christ
    eeeenk, wrong analogy.

    you can quantify those things.... those can be measured.

    unlike your god....who you think exist.

    I have to admit, I believe in unseen things too. I believe my family loves me, that my cousins adore me, that I can make a difference in the world. But that's not on the same level as believing that there's an invisible being who created the world and will send my favorite uncle to hell because he doesn't believe.
    You can quantify your feelings by the people you're involved with? Your parents, your siblings, etc. Hmm.
    But if so, you can quantify faith too. Since, feelings, love, faith are considered intangible. Correct me if i'm wrong.

    BTW, its really not the same level on believing on what you've felt for somebody you can sense compared to believing the unseen God. It takes Faith. For us Christian, faith goes beyond belief.





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    Quote Originally Posted by ej___
    You can quantify your feelings by the people you're involved with? Your parents, your siblings, etc. Hmm.
    But if so, you can quantify faith too. Since, feelings, love, faith are considered intangible. Correct me if i'm wrong.

    BTW, its really not the same level on believing on what you've felt for somebody you can sense compared to believing the unseen God. It takes Faith. For us Christian, faith goes beyond belief.




    love is a chemical reaction... faith is simply believing in things that are not there.



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