PS3 or PS4??

[enimavix]

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A supply constrained and in demand $400 PS4 will retail for 18k? Optimistically... no. rather unrealistically low-balling. LMAO.

Boss guess raman tawn na oi sa binisaya pa tagna-tagna. It's not objective man. Geez.
I'm just basing it on the USPrice of 399. 18K more or less. Exclusive of tax.

Sony shows a glimpse of the PS4

[cannon fodder]

Boss guess raman tawn na oi sa binisaya pa tagna-tagna. It's not objective man. Geez.
I'm just basing it on the USPrice of 399. 18K more or less. Exclusive of tax.

Sony shows a glimpse of the PS4

Oh I’m sorry. I was expecting nothing less from someone like you who devotes time for research.

But even if it’s only a guess, it should be based on something, right? And basing it only on dollar-peso conversion is just plain ignorance (and why the hell are you excluding tax in guessing the SRP?). If you haven’t researched, how about making a guess based on your previous experience?

The most recent consoles that launched, the 3DS, Vita, and Wii U retailed at around 13k, 15k, and 25k respectively. If you bought/ planned to buy these consoles at launch, you will know adding at least 5k should be a safe guess. Heck, even remembering the horrendous experience of going through Customs when importing consoles should remind you that it is not a simple case of dollar-peso conversion.

But I guess you can’t make a guess based on experience if you have none.

[AnghelitaKordapya]

Your Grandia and Saga Frontier 2 are soft copies right? Right off the PSN?
I was just wondering since your using a PAL PS3 Slim man kaha?
Just sayin since I haven't heard of a backwards compatible PS3 Slim model yet--regardless the region. I only know about the early phat model PS3 models with the EE (Emotion Engine) CPUs that can play region-locked original PS1 and 2 discs.
Doesn't quite add up to me. . .
I'm guessing maybe JB?
(but then again, I don't much about Jailbroken PS3 units. Never owned one and never will)

As for Persona 4 Arena, is this the PS3 Versus title or the katong PS2 RPG one?
Coz if you mean the VS title then I might forget about getting a copy
I was planning to get a copy P4 Arena VS but I kept forgetting to get one. Hehe
I dunno much about the RPG one tho. Most of the time, games from PSN become region-free from what I heard. I guess naa lang siguro exceptions on some PS classics?

slim tong square noh? ug super slim (skinny) tong bag o, or nayabag ko? hehehehe
Nope, Grandia and Saga Frontier are physical copies.
Jailbroken? Nope. Bought it new with warranty last year, and d man mu play akong NTSC discs. and been doing online gaming. although naa (daw)? cfw na mka mka online gaming gapn. But dili daw backwards compatible, dunno haven't tried pero mao man gd ingon sa nag baligya.
here's the story, wala pd ko idea or research sa backwards compatibility. was looking for ps1 games online ug mka butang man gd na PS1/PS2/PS3. PS2's are backwards compatible to some games, right? pero PS3? duda pd ko, so pag abot jud sa game sa mail, na kuryuso si kordapya ug gi testingan, ug mi dagan hehehe. sa unit pd sa akong migo, pal gapn (igat to iya ky red), bought it new gapn overseas, dagan man gapn, so i think compatible ra. kung tanan ba games, no idea.

yup, Persona 4 Arena kato versus na title. But if d ka ganahan sa Persona 3 and 4 PS2 RPGs, yaw nlang kay more of fan service ra jud siya. Atlus f'd up ngano ila gi region lock. the EU version was released ages after the NA version, ug daghan tga UK na mi import only to find out na region locked
Persona 4 Arena on PSN is REGION LOCKED - Atlus U.S.A. Forums
not sure if na fix na nila, or at least butngan ug warning na region locked ang game.

yup, region free ang psn games, apart from the one mentioned above (although i have no idea if nag release pa sila ug region locked games on psn lately).
got 2 accounts, and EU and NA. bought stuff from the NA store even DLC and plays just fine

and my PS4 estimate might be 5-7k short. got a Wii U for around 19k man gd...

[runforthehills]

slim tong square noh? ug super slim (skinny) tong bag o, or nayabag ko? hehehehe
Nope, Grandia and Saga Frontier are physical copies.
Jailbroken? Nope. Bought it new with warranty last year, and d man mu play akong NTSC discs. and been doing online gaming. although naa (daw)? cfw na mka mka online gaming gapn. But dili daw backwards compatible, dunno haven't tried pero mao man gd ingon sa nag baligya.
here's the story, wala pd ko idea or research sa backwards compatibility. was looking for ps1 games online ug mka butang man gd na PS1/PS2/PS3. PS2's are backwards compatible to some games, right? pero PS3? duda pd ko, so pag abot jud sa game sa mail, na kuryuso si kordapya ug gi testingan, ug mi dagan hehehe. sa unit pd sa akong migo, pal gapn (igat to iya ky red), bought it new gapn overseas, dagan man gapn, so i think compatible ra. kung tanan ba games, no idea.

yup, Persona 4 Arena kato versus na title. But if d ka ganahan sa Persona 3 and 4 PS2 RPGs, yaw nlang kay more of fan service ra jud siya. Atlus f'd up ngano ila gi region lock. the EU version was released ages after the NA version, ug daghan tga UK na mi import only to find out na region locked
Persona 4 Arena on PSN is REGION LOCKED - Atlus U.S.A. Forums
not sure if na fix na nila, or at least butngan ug warning na region locked ang game.

yup, region free ang psn games, apart from the one mentioned above (although i have no idea if nag release pa sila ug region locked games on psn lately).
got 2 accounts, and EU and NA. bought stuff from the NA store even DLC and plays just fine

and my PS4 estimate might be 5-7k short. got a Wii U for around 19k man gd...

Here's a pic all the PS3 models that have been released. The one on the left is the original phat model followed by the Slim model (middle) and the more recent Super Slim model (right)
From what I know about the PS3 console, kana ra Phat model (left). . .the early release models are the ones capable of playing PS1 & PS2 games disc that are still region locked.

If you say that your model is the one on the middle (Slim) then I'm really curious as to how it works? I got a couple of original PS2 discs myself and I never had any luck with running on my Slim PS3.

Sony Explain Why The PS3 Slim Has No Backwards Compatibility

Perhaps the seller might have 'secretly' JB'ed the unit? Lol
I'm sorry, now I'm just speculating.

I googled some ways on how to do it and the only results only lead to jailbreak the unit
Although I might be researching more about this, out of curiousity of how your Slim PS3 runs back-comp game discs.
CFW? Custom Firmware-- that's part of JB-ing the unit right? Lol sorry, I can't say much about this topic since I have no experience in jailbroken PS3s (gamay ra akong nahibawan ani hehehe )


As for Persona 4 Arena, if I ever see a [R1] copy I think I'll buy since I like various VS titles and Guilty Gear. . .pina Arc System Works hehe I like it hehehe abeit the "fan service tag". For me, it keeps the berkada busy man gud. Obscure or commercial titles, basta Versus titles, dulaon gyud hehehe

[AnghelitaKordapya]

Here's a pic all the PS3 models that have been released. The one on the left is the original phat model followed by the Slim model (middle) and the more recent Super Slim model (right)
From what I know about the PS3 console, kana ra Phat model (left). . .the early release models are the ones capable of playing PS1 & PS2 games disc that are still region locked.

If you say that your model is the one on the middle (Slim) then I'm really curious as to how it works? I got a couple of original PS2 discs myself and I never had any luck with running on my Slim PS3.

Sony Explain Why The PS3 Slim Has No Backwards Compatibility

Perhaps the seller might have 'secretly' JB'ed the unit? Lol
I'm sorry, now I'm just speculating.

I googled some ways on how to do it and the only results only lead to jailbreak the unit
Although I might be researching more about this, out of curiousity of how your Slim PS3 runs back-comp game discs.
CFW? Custom Firmware-- that's part of JB-ing the unit right? Lol sorry, I can't say much about this topic since I have no experience in jailbroken PS3s (gamay ra akong nahibawan ani hehehe )


As for Persona 4 Arena, if I ever see a [R1] copy I think I'll buy since I like various VS titles and Guilty Gear. . .pina Arc System Works hehe I like it hehehe abeit the "fan service tag". For me, it keeps the berkada busy man gud. Obscure or commercial titles, basta Versus titles, dulaon gyud hehehe

yup the middle. um, Grandia and Saga Frontier 2 are PS1 titles. dili siya PS2 backwards, like I mentioned in my previous post.

sa akong nabaw an, around 23k ang srp.

akong nabal an, ang phat models ang backwards compatible ug ps2. ang new models mu play man gapn ug ps1 games, although wa ko balo if tanan ba ang pde. as far as i know, region locked gapn kung ps1 games.

aw ug selected diay na ps2 classics via psn

although I forgot to emphasize na dili PS2 backwards compatible.
and i don't think Gamestop would sell brand new units na JB's. di na ma halin ila games. ug wa jud koy idea about JB's, pero sige man ko update online, so I don't think JB ni.

As for P4 Arena, di man gd inana ka amazing iya gameplay. like a few moves ra ang available. na dismaya gani ko, being a fan of Guilty Gear (yah! love the soundtrack)

[runforthehills]

yup the middle. um, Grandia and Saga Frontier 2 are PS1 titles. dili siya PS2 backwards, like I mentioned in my previous post.


although I forgot to emphasize na dili PS2 backwards compatible.
and i don't think Gamestop would sell brand new units na JB's. di na ma halin ila games. ug wa jud koy idea about JB's, pero sige man ko update online, so I don't think JB ni.

As for P4 Arena, di man gd inana ka amazing iya gameplay. like a few moves ra ang available. na dismaya gani ko, being a fan of Guilty Gear (yah! love the soundtrack)

Gotta check this out, I think I still have My original Twisted Metal 2 here. I never really tried My PS1 discs since whne I heard the Slim units not being back-comp. anymore I never bothered trying it out.
Thanks for the tip.

Hahaha, about P4Arena I played it with a couple of friends (not my copy) months ago. I dunno lingaw man siya IMO
I may not know much about the series but after a couple of plays with competitive friends I might get a copy just for being a hit my friends. In fact, none of us know anything about Persona (I think one of us know about it?) but that's where it becomes fun: playing a VS game you barely know para patas ra mi tanan in terms game skill aka "chambahay lang gud" Hahaha
Silly frustrations=fun in our group

Probably a used copy (if I'm lucky? Haha)

[AnghelitaKordapya]

Gotta check this out, I think I still have My original Twisted Metal 2 here. I never really tried My PS1 discs since whne I heard the Slim units not being back-comp. anymore I never bothered trying it out.
Thanks for the tip.

Hahaha, about P4Arena I played it with a couple of friends (not my copy) months ago. I dunno lingaw man siya IMO
I may not know much about the series but after a couple of plays with competitive friends I might get a copy just for being a hit my friends. In fact, none of us know anything about Persona (I think one of us know about it?) but that's where it becomes fun: playing a VS game you barely know para patas ra mi tanan in terms game skill aka "chambahay lang gud" Hahaha
Silly frustrations=fun in our group

Probably a used copy (if I'm lucky? Haha)

found out by accident rman pd nako. tapulan man kau ko mag research hehe. abi gani nako na d pd back-comp.

mao sad, lingaw kung pareho mo tanan bag o sa game. nka bati nako, wa man koy kaduwa gd. no point mu palit ko ug VS games na walay mu duwa online uf NTSC imo unit, psn nlang buy, 30 bucks rman guro.

[Janjalani]

hehehe! nindot dyd ps4 kai sa xbox1..

[AnghelitaKordapya]

opinion lang nako, yup by far nindot jud ang ps4. can't wait to get it

[arf2]

keep it both nlng