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  1. #41

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    That is undeniable bro. Since from the beginning there's already a conflict kung kinsa ang Ginoo angayan i-worship! If we know the bible, dili ta ma-surprise anang kang Jovi nga occult kay mismo sa OT times, gitawag nana sya nga ABOMINATION sa Ginoo!
    ^^ ma conflict ra na if imo ipogos nga imong version ang sakto. like karon imong gibuhat imo gi based sa Bible, nag assume naka nga the world was created according to how the bible described it.

    Pero respetaran lang gihapon nato coz theyre also doing it for their cause. Same with the Christians. The only difference is, dili mausab ang kamatuoran diha sa bibliya no matter how the enemy tries to suppress/dilute the word of God.
    sa akong pagsabot wa man na gi suppress.

  2. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by kit_cebu View Post
    OT:
    kamo ramang mga tawhana gihapon ang naa diri....
    mura man mo'g Happy Madison Productions diri ni Adam Sandler nga balik-balik ang mga artista....
    saba Kit oi antog lang diha kong gosto ka. ikaw bitaw mora man kag tagulilong kong asa ang gobot tua pod ka mo sawsaw jud.

  3. #43

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    kagubot na pud unsa jud tinuod. haha.

  4. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    Bro, naka study naka ug Gnosticism? Gi unsa nimo pagkabalo nga Devil ang Gnosticism kung wala ka ka study ana? Pareha ra na ug moingon ka nga makadaut sa lawas ang moinom ug juice but wala pa ka kasuway ug inom ug juice.
    Bro, kitang taw gihatagan ta sa ginoo ug guide para sa pagkinabuhi nga mataraung. Naay mga butang nga tinuod kung atong suwayan seems wala ta madaut not knowing nga gihinay2 na diay ta ug patay. Do you believe ang pagtake ug drugs makadaut? you may say dili if not in excess....that may be true to some but what God wants sa atua is to refrain from these things, its either maka destroy sa atua or an abomination sa iyaha.

    Always remember mamatay ka one day bisan unsa pa nimo kapuno ug knowledge! dili ikaw ang tag-iya sa imong kinabuhi....so better listen to what are His restrictions in the bible for it is good for your soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandirigma View Post
    saba Kit oi antog lang diha kong gosto ka. ikaw bitaw mora man kag tagulilong kong asa ang gobot tua pod ka mo sawsaw jud.
    welcome to the internetz....
    di man gani ko mo-pusta, mo-antog na nuon....wa may daug ning storyaa....

  6. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandirigma View Post
    ^^ ma conflict ra na if imo ipogos nga imong version ang sakto. like karon imong gibuhat imo gi based sa Bible, nag assume naka nga the world was created according to how the bible described it.
    Kauban mong @jovi bro?
    Murag kamo maoy naghatag conflict sa bible kay inyo discredit unya diha rasad magquote ug verses. hehheh
    ayaw ipamugos ang inyoha nga mao sad nay insakto, unless kung duna moy written proof sa inyong claims.

  7. #47

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    gi unsa nimo pagkabalo nga lighter/attractive side of evil kung wala ka kabalo? naa ky complete knowledge why God is impersonal? naa ky complete knowledge about reincarnation?
    Bro jovs, im not sure if you are competing your words with Jesus Christ's. Unsa imong description lagi anang impersonal God, be specific! sige kag ingon nga beyond personal....ang PERSONAL GOD dunay Intellect & Will as what Jesus taught. Giunsa man nimo pagkabalo nga sayop ang naa sa bible about PERSONAL GOD? is your 1% knowledge complete? Show us evidence/more detailed explaination sa imong reincarnation bro. Kinsa manka sa imong past life, even sa previous lang kung naa man galing may complete knowledge anang butanga?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    bro, ni explain nako unsa si Saul/Paul, sorry but dili siya direct student ni Jesus. He has no knowledge about Christ. And you are a Paulian Christian. Pareha gyud siya sa warning ni Jesus.

    Gnosis means knowledge. which means dili belief, knowledge gyud about the teachings of Jesus and the school of Christianity, the original Christianity. meaning students ang naa, not believers. teachers ang naa dili preachers. unsaon ninyo pagkabalo about something with just using a belief. It is like, i believe you are evil. sakto ba ko? belief lng nga you are evil? dapat kuyog ko nimo pirmi gikan pag gamay hangtud pagdaku and dapat kabalo ko unsa ang naa sa imong mind before i can say nga evil ka. that's why belief lng na ninyo. then how would you know the truth about Christ with just a belief compare to knowledge?
    Jovs,

    An answer to your 1st paragraph;
    The noun "christian" is a biblical term (acts 11:26). Is the same bible who mentioned that we cannot be someone else aside of being "christian" (a man belonging to Christ) "Where there cannot be Greek and Jew, circumcision and uncircumcision, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free man, but Christ is all and in all." (Col 3:11). The Apostle Paul himself also says this way "For when someone says, I am of Paul, ...are you not men of flesh?"(1 Cor 3:4). So muhangyo ko nimu nga insaktuhun nimu ang imo pangutana nako. Because, to ask me if I am a Paulian Christian is a wrong question, because I cannot be a "Paulian". "And what is Paul? Minister through whom you believed, even as the Lord gave..."(1 Cor 3:5). Because according to Paul His teaching does not originated from him (For him to have Paulinians that belongs to him) but from the Lord, Paul said "For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you (1 Cor 11:23). In fact Paul said "If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him fully know the things which I write to you, that they are the commandment of the Lord." (1 Cor 14:37). Dia pa jud Jovs "If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored. (1 Cor 14:3. Paul says that he who ignore his writings, while his writings is from the Lord, will be ignored too. Jovs, please read the bible at once to draw a balance and accurate concusion of what to believe as knowledge and reject as knowledge.
    An answer to the 2nd paragraph;
    You are seperating the confusion between knowledge and belief. Jovs, kung dili ka mutoo sa bible nga kasaligan sya as source of knowledge for a belief it's up to you, but a christian (as was called in the bible) is believer because the bible was written based on facts and reality that's why the bible says that "God..desires all men to be saved and to come to the full knowledge of the truth." (1 Timothy 2:4). Even without investigating history in artifacts and infallible proofs, just by reading the bible, you will realize that there is no other book that can compare the bible. Its content is incomparable (Here I'm not stating a belief, but an appreciation). I hope you can get a copy of the bible and read it.

    Hinaut unta ni take time ka pag read sa ako post Jovs and take time to understand it also.

  9. #49

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandirigma View Post
    ^^ ma conflict ra na if imo ipogos nga imong version ang sakto. like karon imong gibuhat imo gi based sa Bible, nag assume naka nga the world was created according to how the bible described it.



    sa akong pagsabot wa man na gi suppress.
    because we believe in it...that the world was created by God

    sa akong pagsabot wa man na gi suppress.
    wala bitaw...pero amo protektahan...bisan pag gitamakan na ninyo among pagtulon-an magpakahilom lang di ie mi?

    ayaw mig hilabti..diba di sad mi mag tagawtaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    gospel of the kingdom, unsa nga kingdom bro, Kingdom of God or Kingdom of Rome?

    ang bible kulangan pa sa kinatibuk-an nga teachings ni Jesus ug sa original Christianity (school). Bisag ipuno pa na ang Gnostic Gospels, daghan gihapon ug kulang. kabalo ka nganong dili i apil ang Gnostic Gospels? ky kung dili ka student sa original Christianity dili man ka makasabot. for example gikan sa Gospel of Thomas:

    22) Jesus saw infants being suckled. He said to His disciples,"These infants being suckled are like those who enter the Kingdom." They said to Him, "Shall we then, as children, enter the Kingdom?" Jesus said to them, "When you make the two one, and when youmake the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside,and the above like the below, and when you make the male and thefemale one and the same, so that the male not be male nor thefemale female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye,and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, anda likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter [theKingdom]."

    37) His disciples said, "When will You become revealed to us andwhen shall we see You?" Jesus said, "When you disrobe without being ashamed and takeup your garments and place them under your feet like littlechildren and tread on them, then [will you see] the Son of theLiving One, and you will not be afraid"
    Jovs, I'm sorry again but I have to contradict you with this to help you. The bible is actually complete to "fully know the certainty of the things" (Luke 1:4). However it does not include those are not needed because "if they were written one by one, I suppose that not even the world itself could contain the books written." (John 21:25). But the bible in completeness was "written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing, you may have life in His name."(John 20:31) So what was written in the bible is what is enough for a man who believes into to have life eternal, which life is the life of God. Ang rason nganu walay labot ang supposed gnostic gospels sa bible, dili tungod kay para dili ta makasabot sa bible kung wala kay labot sa orig christianity(Kalatawan nang argumentuha), kung dili tungod sukwahi maning gnostic books sa consistency sa bible. As I have said sa first post nako, the gnostic books teaches a different Christ which was already revealed in the bible.

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