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    Default Re: What probable month is the birth of JESUS?


    october? bitaw unsa diay? juz azkin

  2. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalartistbem View Post
    Issue? Nyehehe...pasagdahi nlng gud nang uban.

    Ako kay dili man nuon ko catholic, I don't celebrate christmas (I think birth of Jesus was autumn/october or september something kay, I don't know noh, pero wala man gud ko ka basa ug snowy or december signs sa Bible).

    Mag thanksgiving raman me sa family every end of the year. Anyway, giving ra btaw na (we can be good and giving everyday), Birth of Jesus is not as Important as His Victory on the cross....okay rajud anytime mag christmas ang mga peeps uy....ayaw hagu-a imong self...ENJOY and Celebrate for the GLORY OF THE LORD!

    (Christian view)
    naa na sad ka ha december 25 lage na ahaaaay

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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalartistbem View Post
    Issue? Nyehehe...pasagdahi nlng gud nang uban.

    Ako kay dili man nuon ko catholic, I don't celebrate christmas (I think birth of Jesus was autumn/october or september something kay, I don't know noh, pero wala man gud ko ka basa ug snowy or december signs sa Bible).

    Mag thanksgiving raman me sa family every end of the year. Anyway, giving ra btaw na (we can be good and giving everyday), Birth of Jesus is not as Important as His Victory on the cross....okay rajud anytime mag christmas ang mga peeps uy....ayaw hagu-a imong self...ENJOY and Celebrate for the GLORY OF THE LORD!

    (Christian view)
    ay salamat hatagan unta tka pinaskuhan digitalartistbem d nalng, d man di ai ka celebrate may noon maka save pero december 25 lagi na nig maka dawat na ko na hala usba bahala mo dha

  4. #44

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    Nganong December 25 diay?

    There are two things for sure:

    1) Festival elements of Christmas -- pagan traditions

    2) Actual DATE of Christmas -- it is derived from Rabbinic tradition among the early Christians, who are basically attached to their Jewish heritage especially the Passover tradition. It is also a Judaistic notion that great things might be expected, again and again, at the same time of the year, mao December 25.

    Detractors could always find a way to associate Christmas with pagan tradition/pagan gods since the pagans celebrate a different god everyday. Ibutang man gani na September 29, October man kaha ron, there are gods whose feasts are also celebrated on those dates -- which they could associate with Christianity.

    We could not deny that human archetypes are present in the celebration. Pagan or Christian, we tend to do feel and do similar things when we are happy. Gift giving, feasts and singing are the things that a normal human do when celebrating a happy event. Therefore I could not condemn these practices as bad. Just my two cents though.

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    Default Re: What probable month is the birth of JESUS?

    december gyud kay mao namay na andan ug na sulti sa bible.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie.86 View Post
    Nganong December 25 diay?

    There are two things for sure:

    1) Festival elements of Christmas -- pagan traditions

    2) Actual DATE of Christmas -- it is derived from Rabbinic tradition among the early Christians, who are basically attached to their Jewish heritage especially the Passover tradition. It is also a Judaistic notion that great things might be expected, again and again, at the same time of the year, mao December 25.

    Detractors could always find a way to associate Christmas with pagan tradition/pagan gods since the pagans celebrate a different god everyday. Ibutang man gani na September 29, October man kaha ron, there are gods whose feasts are also celebrated on those dates -- which they could associate with Christianity.

    We could not deny that human archetypes are present in the celebration. Pagan or Christian, we tend to do feel and do similar things when we are happy. Gift giving, feasts and singing are the things that a normal human do when celebrating a happy event. Therefore I could not condemn these practices as bad. Just my two cents though.
    sakto jud ka bro!
    importante diha kabalo ta kinsa ang figure we are referring to celebrate! Kung lain nga deity, lahi nanang istoryaha.

  7. #47

    Default Re: What probable month is the birth of JESUS?

    dba if your a believer, December man gyd...ngano mo abot paman mo sa lain nga months...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamatoy View Post
    december gyud kay mao namay na andan ug na sulti sa bible.....
    pag sure dha oi bantay kag mausab na ha unya wala koy madawat

    @libido
    sakto gyud ka bro december 25 lage na
    Last edited by slabdans; 11-28-2012 at 01:12 PM.

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    Default Re: What probable month is the birth of JESUS?

    Quote Originally Posted by gamatoy View Post
    december gyud kay mao namay na andan ug na sulti sa bible.....
    post kuno deri bro unsa nga verse...

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    additional insights about the topic..

    Some scholars speculate probably a September/October (1) as a likely date for Jesus' birth because Luke mentions sheep in the fields. (Luke 2:8, and November was the latest month in which sheep could be left out in the fields and December would be bitterly cold for pasture and for people to migrate for a census. Notwithstanding these points however, the well known Jewish Christian scholar, Dr. Alfred Edersheim (2) proposed December 25 as Christ's birthday and argued that it had a connection with the Jewish feast of Hanukkah which falls on the 25th day of the Hebrew month Kislev. The Jewish feast of Hanukkah always begins on the 25th day of Kislev, just as Christmas always falls on the 25th day of December. Due to the differences between the Christian calendar (better known as the 'Gregorian calendar') and the Hebrew calendar, Hanukkah and Christmas sometimes are celebrated together or at times Hanukkah begins before Christmas. Both of these festivals emphasize the importance of light, the menorah with Judaism and Christmas lights with Christianity. The idea of the "Festival of Lights" points to Jesus as the "light of the world" (John 8:12). What better time for the Messiah to be born? Dr. Edersheim's arguments are compelling, but he stands in the minority on the subject. Most scholars if not all reject December 25 as the actual date of Jesus' birth, and I(the author) would be compelled to reject it as well.

    The Early Church Fathers debated over the time of Christ's birth around AD 200 and there is some evidence that Christians commemorated the birth of Christ although the dates were different. As of AD 354, December 25 was labeled as the date of Christ's birth. The Church had attempted to stomp out the cult of Mithra, the sun of god by declaring that it would instead celebrate the birth of the "sun of righteousness" (Malachi 4:2), a title understood to be messianic. The move of the Church stomped out Mithraism in a matter of time. (remember the reaching out part, again the best way to check if the act was of reaching out or of compromise is through the fruits)

    source: Christmas - a Biblical Analysis

    another POV of shepheds tending their sheep:

    "And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night."
    Luke 2:8
    other scholars might suggest that the certain verse took place on the spring lambing season, in the cold month of december,otherwise sheep might have been coralled instead of being tended by shepherds.

    again, this is just another POV.
    source:How December 25 Became Christmas - Biblical Archaeology Review
    Last edited by noy; 11-28-2012 at 05:29 PM.

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