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  1. #41

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    Being a monsignor doesn't mean he's already an absolute holy man. And I don't care if a priest does this kind of mistakes, in the end we'll face God individually.

  2. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_bauer View Post

    ..and why the heck siya ang g.interview ni Christy?
    i dunno, maybe as what the researchers of Nat Geo probably found out when they are researching for the article, he is

    "...one of the best known ivory collectors in the Philippines, "

  3. #43

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    mayta ma pasakaan na nig kaso ning ugok nga pari... i-apil sa ning mga ipocrito nga taw nga nag baton ug ing-ani nga mga illegal nga butang...

  4. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_bauer View Post
    naa bay solid link ang author sa illegal ivory trading to philippines?

    how much is much? how many is many?

    ..pila kabuok ang naa sa mini-museum sa Pari?
    kanus-a ni na carved ang mga statues?

    ako ning g.question cz this reporting is a matter of perspective.. kay pwede man e-report ni Christy nga grabi ka zealous ang Cebuanos towards sto. nino..

    as a devotee of sto. nino, we should approach this with a skeptical mind? 'cz you know what, personally i felt slighted by how the article was presented.. i respect the rights of the wild, much more the elephants.. but criticisms like these should be verified meticulously..
    Read post #35. I think he knows the priest and has in fact seen the exhibit in one of the malls.

  5. #45

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    Here's the link to the natgeo article:

    Ivory Worship - Pictures, More From National Geographic Magazine

    Is this black propaganda?

  6. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_bauer View Post
    bro, OMG.. what?

    this speaks for everything, that priest is a bogus, i supposed. He does not represent the church as a whole.

    ..and why the heck siya ang g.interview ni Christy?

    shouldn't we, as a nation, much more as a cebuano feel slighted for this?

    ..this is BLACK PROPAGANDA international level.
    THE PHILIPPINES CONNECTION
    In an overfilled church Monsignor Cristobal Garcia, one of the best known ivory collectors in the Philippines, leads an unusual rite honoring the nation’s most important religious icon, the Santo Niño de Cebu (Holy Child of Cebu). The ceremony, which he conducts annually on Cebu, is called the Hubo, from a Cebuano word meaning “to undress.” Several altar boys work together to disrobe a small wooden statue of Christ dressed as a king, a replica of an icon devotees believe Ferdinand Magellan brought to the island in 1521. They remove its small crown, red cape, and tiny boots, and strip off its surprisingly layered underwear. Then the monsignor takes the icon, while altar boys conceal it with a little white towel, and dunks it in several barrels of water, creating his church’s holy water for the year, to be sold outside.

    Garcia is a fleshy man with a lazy left eye and bad knees. In the mid-1980s, according to a 2005 report in the Dallas Morning News and a related lawsuit, Garcia, while serving as a priest at St. Dominic’s of Los Angeles, California, sexually abused an altar boy in his early teens and was dismissed. Back in the Philippines, he was promoted to monsignor and made chairman of Cebu’s Archdiocesan Commission on Worship. That made him head of protocol for the country’s largest Roman Catholic archdiocese, a flock of nearly four million people in a country of 75 million Roman Catholics, the world’s third largest Catholic population. Garcia is known beyond Cebu. Pope John Paul II blessed his Santo Niño during Garcia’s visit to the pope’s summer residence, Castel Gandolfo, in 1990. Recently Garcia helped direct the installation of Cebu’s newest archbishop in a cathedral filled with Catholic leaders, including 400 priests and 70 bishops, among them the Vatican’s ambassador. Garcia is so well known that to find his church, the Society of the Angels of Peace, I need only roll down my window and ask, “Monsignor Cris?” to be pointed toward his walled compound.

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    OMG... Sometimes the truth is worse than any black propaganda you'd ever encounter. Now let this monsignor face this issue and clear himself if he can, for the sake of those who are devotees of this holy child. Or at the very least say sorry to those who feel slighted by this unfortunate expose.

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    This Monsignor makes me sick! Pedophile pa jud diay ni?

  8. #48

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    Priests worshiper diay ka brod. instead to worship God through His church..
    di man ko priest worshiper bro, pero lisod lang tunlon mamati sa misa kung ang gayawyaw sa imo atubangan hipocrito. dugay na bitaw ko wa kasulod simbahan sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_the_mighty View Post
    di man ko priest worshiper bro, pero lisod lang tunlon mamati sa misa kung ang gayawyaw sa imo atubangan hipocrito. dugay na bitaw ko wa kasulod simbahan sad.
    sa ato pa tanan jud diay pari nga momisa hipocrito sa imong tanaw?

  10. #50

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    sa ato pa tanan jud diay pari nga momisa hipocrito sa imong tanaw?
    OT na ta bro, pero tubagon lang tika. Mas uyon ko og kinaugalingon (sulod sa balay) ang among pag-ampo (considering naa ko sa MidEast ron) kay purya gaba ang mga makita nako sa simbahan dinhi sa Qatar og Dubai, sorry sa maligsan di na nako na i-explain. Puros ra sad padungog akong madunggan sa among mga pari dinhi.

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