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    Mag sugod na sila... showing their true color...

    Italian nun and her bodyguard killed by two gunmen at a hospital Sunday... it could be linked to worldwide Muslim anger over a speech by the Pope



    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060917/...lia_nun_killed

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    now how did some of the muslims react? well, reactionaries then fire-bombed churches in the west bank.
    It proves what the pope has said.

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    What if someone would revive the Crusades today?

    A handful of people are being jailed in Saudi Arabia just for the mere private possession of a bible or a rosary, I think we should do something about this.

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    Theres too much blood shed in the name of religion. People got killed because they dont belong to some sect or group.

    Faith is something personal. No one should be compelled to embrace one that he is not convinced. It would be much worse if people use religion to commit violence and chaos.

    There is so much overreaction to Pope's statement. Its like every opportunity will be grabbed by fundamentalist to justify killings and more terrors. All in the name of religion.

    We can do nothing about it. Its part of everyday hazards that we live in this very imperfect world. We cannot solve Islamic fundamentalism. I regard it as a scourge of humankind. The advocates of it are already missing the point. When one advocates murder because of religion, he or she should question it. Is it still part of the nature of God which is pure good?

    I am just very sorry that this time they nitpick a quote from a 13th century figure to attack and despise the Pope. They even call him dog. They protest that they are not evil and inhuman but look what they are doing. They throw grenades at Churches and a cleric (religious person!) in Somalia called for Pope's death. This irrationality is the one Pope Benedict wants to address. I hope all Christians (Catholic or otherwise), Buddhists, Jews, and even moderate Muslims must unite to face this real menace to world peace and understanding of the world today--- Islamic fundamentalism and extremism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sister maria
    no, i think it's you who are wrong. your statement, is that your opinion or your educated guess? is that their (muslims) real purpose? do you really know islam? by the sound of it, your statement is as intolerant as the fundies. you can't just label them as bloodthirsty theo-CRAZY people, collectively.

    and they call god allah, as it is yahweh/jehovah in jewish, as it is aba in old aramaic, how do you call your god? it's only a matter of naming convention.
    What could be ITS REAL purpose?

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    The pope is only human, and also a member of the Hitlerjugend...

    Therefore he makes mistakes and is racist.

    I'm sure if he could, he would gladly wipe out the muslims, but then again, he ain't God...

    whoop-dee-doo....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Father
    I am just very sorry that this time they nitpick a quote from a 13th century figure to attack and despise the Pope. They even call him dog. They protest that they are not evil and inhuman but look what they are doing. They throw grenades at Churches and a cleric (religious person!) in Somalia called for Pope's death. This irrationality is the one Pope Benedict wants to address. I hope all Christians (Catholic or otherwise), Buddhists, Jews, and even moderate Muslims must unite to face this real menace to world peace and understanding of the world today--- Islamic fundamentalism and extremism.
    why dont you start by going downtown and mugging the muslims there...? lets see how many seconds you last... hehehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by weedmeister2
    why dont you start by going downtown and mugging the muslims there...? lets see how many seconds you last... hehehehe
    How about starting it with yourself. And please dont further ridicule the Pope on this issue. Because when time will come that extremists Muslims will butcher non Muslims like chicken, you are not safe either. You who espouse an intolerant and fundamentalist Christian thinking.

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    Catholic News Agency


    Published by:
    Jason Miller
    Santa Paula, CA USA

    17/09/2006
    03:06 PM EST

    In reading comments on this and other websites, I don't get the feeling anyone understands what our Pope was saying. He was not saying anything negative about Islam. Nor were politicians involved in somehow manipulating what he said. The pope was giving a rather sophisticated lecture on the evolution of the secular state and the philisophical underpinnings of this evolution. This quote of an emporer he used is just a tiny tiny piece of his entire speech. Both Muslims AND Catholics are making a bigger deal out of this than it is. The people we should be mad at are the media. They took our Pope's sophisticated lecture and tried to boil it down to a controversial news bite - which is something the media always does. Really, to the outsiders of our faith, the Pope's speech would be rather mundane. So the media latched onto one sentence and made that one sentence the whole story. All your comments reflect that you are getting sucked into their sham as well, just as some Muslim extemists are getting sucked in (though those extremists are always looking for an excuse). Go and read the Pope's speech and see for yourself. Yes, Satan is at work here; but not just through the obvious use of Muslim extremists waiting to jump on this. He is also using his deception to lull Catholics into believing our Pople said something that he didn't, knowing that many will blindly bow down to the media idol.

    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=7630

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    Quote Originally Posted by istoryador
    How about starting it with yourself. And please dont further ridicule the Pope on this issue. Because when time will come that extremists Muslims will butcher non Muslims like chicken, you are not safe either. You who espouse an intolerant and fundamentalist Christian thinking.
    hahahaha! you are hilarious, my friend!

    Your vatican is the one that has BUTCHERED people since its inception, so dont you lecture me about speaking up about your pope, who by the way has a traceable line of incestuous, murdering, pillaging, raping, butchering popes before him... Is that what your God has taught you?

    I, on the other hand, will side with the PEACEFUL muslims, who make up most of the muslim world, who are, as you have noticed, not represented here in istorya. I may be a Baptist, but my God has taught me that we are all brothers, muslims included, so don't you talk about butchering and all that cr*p...

    Now, if a muslim imam had said "Show me just what JESUS brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached", I'm sure you would get your panties all ruffled up over it, without even acknowledging the fact that the Vatican has done just that, spread the faith by the sword... How do you think it reached your shores...?

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