Intensify Family Planning and *** Ed Drive? A Big Yes!

[cebulifer]

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bitaw., kung kahibaw na sila na *** offender ang pari... nganong wala man nila gipagawas? nganong gitago-tago man nila?

[xiboy]

my take on this is that luoy pud nga atong tan awon nga bati ang simbahan...usahay malimtan rapud nato tingali nga dapat baya pud ta mahimong responsabli sa atong mga lihok. Kung unwanted pregnancies ang likyan, I guess mag likay pud ang nagpadayeg sa ilang gugma sa pagbuhat ug mga buluhaton nga makapamabdos... kay siguro kuyaw man pud nga sa pagmata nato ugma damlag basin maubos na ang bili sa kinabuhi ug sa respeto nato sa atong kaugalingon ug sa usag usa nya magpatuyang nalang ta sa atong gusto buhaton (example. kay feel nako mamusil...walay muangal).

I think social responsibility is the real issue ang not merely trying to find a convenient escape to the product of venting one's desires and urges.

[poisontree]

ang nakaapan lang, di kaayo strong ang stand sa church. kung naa silay masuggest laeng way sa pageducate sa mga taw, why not.. but ila ra pirmi isulti kay "we are responsible.."

makig-away gyod ang simbahan ani kay wa na unyay magpabunyag, gamay na lang sad ang kaslon og manimbahay inig abot sa panahon kay mukunhod naman ang population... mukunhod sad ang mga donations............ opinion lang.........

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

knowledge is power gyud..

[Inquisitor]

The issue here is that we should do something to solve the problem of Underage Pregnancies, be it S3X education or Abstinence-only Education, whatever. But we should not be passive about it and just wait for a miracle to happen and solve all our problems(like what the CBCP wants)...

[Inquisitor]

ang nakaapan lang, di kaayo strong ang stand sa church. kung naa silay masuggest laeng way sa pageducate sa mga taw, why not.. but ila ra pirmi isulti kay "we are responsible.."

To CBCP,

What? "we are responsible.."
We have this kind of problem and you say we are responsible?
Hmmm...
(like in hangaroo...) "Are you stupid or something? Freak!!!"

[Xilcher]

To CBCP,

What? "we are responsible.."
We have this kind of problem and you say we are responsible?
Hmmm...
(like in hangaroo...) "Are you stupid or something? Freak!!!"

its true we are responsible...
kita man mag himo sa act..
Ug di pod sila ka educate in church..

OK raman ang *** education sa school..
if sa mature age na.. grade 6 pwde na
lower than that di ko mu agree..

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[giddyboy]

its true we are responsible...
kita man mag himo sa act..
Ug di pod sila ka educate in church..

OK raman ang *** education sa school..
if sa mature age na.. grade 6 pwde na
lower than that di ko mu agree..

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why not in grade 5? the problem lies in our limited understanding and ignorant fears on what s3x education is. It is not even "s3x education" but "reproductive health (RH) education". But some quarters want to label it that way in order to create a negative image and demonify on what it is, in favor of their political agenda. It's because they know conservative people can't even pronounce "s3x education" in front of their kids or to their relatives and friends.

What is wrong w/ teaching the human reproductive anatomy to a grade 5 kid the age-appropriate way? The key word here is AGE-APPROPRIATE. Do these people who are against the RH ed of DepEd even know the RH modules for each grade? As far as I know, these modules were designed for each grade in the best age-appropriate manner...It's like teaching math to a 5th grader differently than one who is in high school, again in an age-appropriate manner.

[mannyamador]

Well, I will be happy to debate with you if you had your own ideas and didn't just copy/paste them from somewhere else. If I wanted to argue with unoriginal ideas, I would go to the blog/site you pasted your ideas from, and argue with the original author of the idea.

What a lame excuse.

It is a standard feature of argumentation and scholarly writing to cite evidence and even arguments from sources. This is an old debate and just about anything relevant we say here has been said before. If you were really interested in honest debate and bringing out the truth, then it should not matter whether the arguments ae original. You still jhave to answer them.

By the way, you will notice that the material I have cited in this thread is not mainly from blogs. You won't be able to "argue" with the authors very much. You ought to know that.

But then the real issue here is whether you want to let the truth come out, or you're just trying (in vain) to suppress it,

As far as I know, these modules were designed for each grade in the best age-appropriate manner.

That is highly debatable. I have seen some of the material and it is certainly not age-appropriate. In fact, some is NOT appropriate at all since it is inaccurate and is merely population control propaganda.

But let's agree to disagree on that point. What then?

I think the answer is to make this kind of education modular and optional, and allow parents and schools to make a curriculum that is appropriate to the age, culture, and values of their students and clientele. That way, you avoid all this controversy.

If parents of kids in a certain school think contraceptive instruction is appropriate for their kids, let their kids attend a class for it (without forcing all the other kids to do do). If Catholic schools and parents want to teach the truly effective values/abstinence/chastity education, let them offer it and not force students to attend other types of "comprehensive s3x education" classes.

The above will allow parents and schools to truly educate the kids using the best and most appropriate means. More important, it allows parents to CHOOSE what is appropriate and allows schools to teach material that does not contradict their institutional beliefs.

Let parents and schools CHOOSE!

Yes to CHASTITY AND VALUES EDUCATION
No to contraceptive s3x education

[raski]

What a lame excuse.

It is a standard feature of argumentation and scholarly writing to cite evidence and even arguments from sources. This is an old debate and just about anything relevant we say here has been said before. If you were really interested in honest debate and bringing out the truth, then it should not matter whether the arguments ae original. You still jhave to answer them.

Except that's not what you're doing. Copying and pasting entire articles is not citing evidences or arguments from sources, even a high school student would know that.

Again, I will respect opinions, not blatantly copy/pasted articles. Also, myself and other posters will continue to attack what we consider biased sources and you will continue to wrongly assume that your sources have a monopoly on the truth, as is to be expected from an amateur debater. But this is all stuff I've mentioned to you before in a futile attempt to educate you

By the way, you will notice that the material I have cited in this thread is not mainly from blogs. You won't be able to "argue" with the authors very much. You ought to know that.

What a red herring, the issue is you copying and pasting entire articles. I doubt you even have the author's permission to do so. Did you not graduate from college?

But then the real issue here is whether you want to let the truth come out, or you're just trying (in vain) to suppress it,

The real vanity is confusing your opinions for the truth. That's vain. Suppress the truth because I said copying and pasting of articles violates common decency and good manners? You make me laugh.