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  1. #41

    Default Re: The Gospel of Judas (Your views)


    @ n'gel:

    Gnosticism - The doctrine of salvation by knowledge. This definition, based on the etymology of the word (gnosis "knowledge", gnostikos, "good at knowing")It hold that the soul attains its proper end by obedience of mind and will to the Supreme Power, i.e. by faith and works, it is markedly peculiar to Gnosticism that itplaces the salvation of the soul merely in the possession of a quasi-intuitive knowledge of the mysteries of the universe and of magic formulae indicative of that knowledge. Gnostics were "people who knew", and their knowledge at once constituted them a superior class of beings, whose present and future status was essentially different from that of those who, for whatever reason, did not know.

    The Gospels.

    1-4. The Canonical Gospels. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John
    5. The Gospel according to the Hebrews.
    6. The Gospel of Peter.
    7. The Gospel according to the Egyptians
    8. The Gospel of Matthias.
    9. The Gospel of Philip.
    10. The Gospel of Thomas.
    11. The Proto-Evangelium of James.
    12. The Gospel of Nicodemus (Acta Pilati).
    13.The Gospel of the Twelve Apostles.
    14.The Gospel of Basilides.
    15.The Gospel of Valentinus.
    16.The Gospel of Marcion.
    17.The Gospel of Eve.
    18.The Gospel of Judas.
    19.The writing Genna Marias.
    20.The Gospel Teleioseos.

    The difference between the Canonical and Apocryphal gospels

    1. The Canonical Gospels commended themselves by their tone of simplicity and truthfulness, which stood in striking contrast with the trivial, absurd, or manifestly legendary character of many of those uncanonical productions.
    2. Canonical gospels had an earlier origin than most of their apocryphal rivals, and indeed many of the latter productions were directly based on the canonical Gospels.
    3. Canonical records of Christ's life was the purity of their teachings, dogmatic and moral, over against the Jewish, Gnostic, or other heretical views with which not a few of the apocryphal gospels were tainted, and on account of which these unsound writings found favour among heretical bodies and, on the contrary, discredit in the eyes of Catholics.
    4. The canonical Gospels were regarded as of Apostolic authority, two of them being ascribed to the Apostles St. Matthew and St. John, respectively, and two to St. Mark and St. Luke, the respective companions of St. Peter and St. Paul. Many other gospels indeed claimed Apostolic authority, but to none of them was this claim universally allowed in the early Church.

  2. #42

    Default Re: The Gospel of Judas (Your views)

    naa man sad daw libro nga "Life of Mary"... ang nakasulat daw didto nga nisulti daw si Judas ni Mary nga gisugo sya ni Jesus nga ipadakop sya, unya nihangyo si Mary ni Judas nga dili niya idayon ug pagpadakop or ibaligya si Jesus...
    PERO gidayon jud ni Judas ug ambot lang kaha ug nganu gidayon ni Judas...

  3. #43

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosimos

    Gnostics are Satanic? Why not? Satan could assume in any form and one of them is to use Christianity itself. Talking of wolves dressed like sheeps.
    if you put it that way then i'm not gonna argue with you

  4. #44

    Default Re: The Gospel of Judas (Your views)

    @mosimos....sa imong list of Gospels...wala lagi ang Gospel of Mary (Magdalene) ....or is it in one of those...lahi lang ang name?

  5. #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by tolstoi
    how can you say that it's really Judas gospel when it was written ages after he hung himself to death
    hahahahaha... this is so funny. and you were thinking that canonical gospels are all written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John?

    read up boyo.

  6. #46

    Default Re: The Gospel of Judas (Your views)

    mga sio... nagkagubot ta aning gospel of judas.. atong i-plastada sio..
    1. tinuod og authentic ang gospel of judas kay nahibaw-an pinaagi sa radiocarbon dating nga gospel ni judas naduma pag 3rd to 4th century sio..
    2. dili si judas ang nagsuwat ato dong.. kung dili ang mga gnostics nga nagpuyo sa egypt atong mga panahona... ang kanang mga gnostics mga kristyanos pud na pero dili katuliko..
    3. daghang kaayo ang mga gospel sa una sio.. subra pa's traynta...pero ang 4 ka gospel (matthew,mark,luke, john) ang na plastada sa bibliya kay mao pay napili-an sa mga katulikong pari sa una..
    4. tungud ana, na x ang atong panan-aw ni dong judas sio.. kay butaw budi kaayo ang gipanuwat kabahin niya hinglabi na sa gospel of john...
    5. epiktibo ang gospel of judas sio.. muhatag siya og bag-o nga pirspictib sa isturya sa barkadahan ni hesukristo og hudas dong..

    nara ninyo sio kung mutuo ba mo o di...

    :mrgreen: epiktibo ang national geographic!

  7. #47

    Default Re: The Gospel of Judas (Your views)

    i agree with you andrei!

    sakto imo mga punto sio!

  8. #48

    Default Re: The Gospel of Judas (Your views)

    What if reality have been the gnostic gospels instead of the biblical gospels? What if Jesus himself was a gnostic? Don't you guys think that it could be possible? Nga ang minugna ang biblical gospels hinuon?

  9. #49

    Default Re: The Gospel of Judas (Your views)

    sometimes our perspective becomes narrow because of the dictates of society and what culture we are born in....a lot of things also defined by the religion we grew up with....mao na nga kon naay mga bag-o nga prinsipyo/way of thinking lisod dawaton kay conditioned na man atong minds kon unsay "right and wrong".....

    anything that grows in a controlled environment will always adapt....for example kon ibutang nimo ang baki sa tubig nya imong initon ang tubig....mamatay na lang na ang baki immersed sa ga bukal nga tubig di jud na mopalag kay inanay man ang temperature change...na anad na lang ang baki....pero ibutang diretso sa binukal di ba layat to the max dayon.....

    ambot ka G ba mo sa ako babbles...basin si shoeless makasabot he he he....ok ba bro?

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    Default Re: The Gospel of Judas (Your views)

    i was really amazed with this gospel!! huna2x ra gud jesus ask judas to betray him!!?? sure tanang mga bishops ani motaas ang kilay!! ug ang ka grabeh pa! this document is really an ancient one!! through carbon testing process (what ive seen in national geographic channel!!)

    but for me it really depends on ur faith with god!! u may agree with it or disagree!!!!

    this gospel has a long way to be debated! because there are facts still not to be searched!! one is who really wrote that gospel!! is it judas or the gnostics people?? and why they wrote that kind of gospel?? is it because they hate christians?? or maybe they have thier own pt. of view with the life of jesus!!??
    wait and see the lang ta ani!!

    pero ang fact lang jud ani!!!! people from ancient world has thier own different religion they vows!!! they debate with it and fight with it!!! that's why until now there are still religious conflicts!!! and conflicts has been for a long long century!!!!

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