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  1. #41

    akong initial findings bai i think scam ni coz this guy is in a lot of other forums as well posting the same exact message. pila pusta ang correspondence ani kutob ra sa email?

    xiao-xiao's testimony is "christianly" inclined and therefore not an objective opinion. I have nothing against paganism and in fact I would prefer it over christianity due to its more nature-oriented practices. i am for any forms of belief that embraces not just man but everything on this green earth. Any belief that pampers the human ego (directly or indirectly) is totally a no-no for me.

    forgive me for saying this again but any type of religion that calls another as "EVIL", "SATANIC" or "ANTICHRIST" is just BS and only begs for trouble.

  2. #42
    @ toks

    Good for you that you made research about the whole thing. Now what this argument all about is no longer based on egyptian fratmasonry (hehehe) but the freemasons in general. Hope that you're not being subjective about the whole system of freemasons.

    BTW, don't think I am one of them... because I'm not.

  3. #43
    naghulat man mo sa reply sa inyong usa ka poster diri. it appears naa man sa lain thread ni react.

  4. #44
    this is an unwholesome discussion. some of you had been very much "accusers" of something you are not part of.

    its like a lassalista who had never ever tasted the Ateneo education, accusing an Atenista from the outside. Why not enroll in the Ateneo? If the Ateneo doesn't work for you, you can always withdraw and enroll in any other institution.

    That is the time that you may criticize what is. Always critique a group from the inside,not out. Otherwise you are only eating eggshell, not the yolks.

    besides, why do you need an opinion of a religious fanatic to comment on a non-religious thread? huh? This Egyptian Freemasonry is not a religion, like any others it is an organization of able and willing individuals to better themselves and study Ancient Wisdom. This is not Islam arguing itself against the loopholes of Christianity.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post
    I totally agree .... FREEMASONRY does not invite nor recruit . People has to knock the door and if FREEMASONRY is for you , the doors will wide open to accept you .

    IMHO ... the EGYPTIAN FREEMASONRY is not the FREEMASONRY we knew of . It is not the FREE and ACCEPTED MASONS . Like it was explained kung tinuod man gani ... it is the OPERATIVE MASONS or should I say CLANDESTINE FREEMASONS .

    Before any arguments and violent reactions comes up ...lets wait for XIAO XIAO to show up again and bring up his oipnions regarding the matter otherwise SCAM gyud ni siya .
    Spare me a piece of bread!

    who is this xiao-xiao that you seem to make him the discerner of truth and falsehoods? Woe unto you!

    then again, it is clandestine to think if you view it from the point of view of regular speculative freemasonry.
    Last edited by Red.Emano; 09-09-2008 at 11:03 PM. Reason: added text

  6. #46
    oh please. if mao na imo example why don't you tell ChED to stop evaluating schools because, according to you, the evaluator (critic) can't be a lassalista and atenean and a bosconian and a whatever at the same time!

    these people make the final evaluation of these schools from the outside and scrutinize the quality of education while only spending just a few hours in a class and picking random students (that hardly is enough time for me). why not bring your argument with them?

    just because di mi masons doesn't mean we don't read about them to make at least some sensible conclusions. Sheesh!
    Last edited by tokidoki; 09-09-2008 at 11:51 PM.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    just because di mi masons doesn't mean we don't read about them to make at least some sensible conclusions. Sheesh!
    My reaction to this statement is that - you can only assume but not required to judge what they practice. Besides, I've seen many masons participate in goodwill. I don't think that need criticism either.

  8. #48
    You know what, why is this "judging something" keep coming back? Except for xiao-xiao's prejudice none of us have made any judgment about this group.

  9. #49
    hehehehe... just want to erase that misconception in you.

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    oh please. if mao na imo example. why don't you tell ChED to stop evaluating schools because the evaluator can't be a lassalista and atenean and a bosconian and a whatever at the same time!

    these people evaluate schools from the outside and scrutnize the quality of education. why not bring your argument with them?

    just because di mi masons doesn't mean we don't read about them to make at least some sensible conclusions. Sheesh!
    ChED evaluates schools from the level of its performance. The better the school, the better it produces individuals and performing students. If that is your example, then surely You are not ChED to be in the position to criticize this institution.

    just because di mi masons doesn't mean we don't read about them to make at least some sensible conclusions. Sheesh!
    no one ever said here that you cannot comment on what you've read about or make sensible conclusions. what we're pointing out is that, you cannot verify what you've read especially that you are not a member of the group! you might not know, the things that you've read are entirely falsehoods written to disrupt the good name of the order.

    Besides, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But not everyone has the right to say that their knowledge is far more superior than someone's experience.

    I find it amuzing to know that you are among the people who really go against the hidden knowledge. Much more likely because you don't really know what these things are really about. Do they empower the individual? Yes they do. What is its purpose? To know thyself.

    Nothing more, nothing less.


    What is your proof? It is the works done by progressive individuals! And they themselves have been very much open and successful about it! What is your debunking-proof, none! But speculations and assumptions about your personal biases about memphis-mizraim!

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