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  1. #481

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    Quote Originally Posted by nowpress* View Post
    Whatever that source is we call it God. Logic and reason is immaterial and it's illogical to say that it came from dumb chemicals therefore it must come from an intelligent source, we call it God.
    If you say logic is beyond the material world, it has to come from a source, and that source is "GOD"---that's a bit taking it too far. Again, no evidence; just pure assumption. God of the gaps. Whatever science cannot explain (because it's immaterial), you automatically insert "GOD" in the equation. Common tactic used by Christians. Atheists can only shake their heads.
    Last edited by pinoy_09; 06-21-2011 at 07:45 AM.

  2. #482

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    Quote Originally Posted by nowpress* View Post
    As a child I was taught that air is the reason why we are breathing, then came school, my science teacher taught me that air is what keeps us breathing. I never question it since I was a child,my mom was right after all.
    You never question the air you breathe, otherwise you'd be dead.

  3. #483

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    Quote Originally Posted by nowpress* View Post
    the whole earth has a lot of evidence that points out to God.
    Like what?

  4. #484

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    If you say logic is beyond the material world, it has to come from a source, and that source is "GOD"---that's a bit taking it too far. Again, no evidence; just pure assumption. God of the gaps. Whatever science cannot explain (because it's immaterial), you automatically insert "GOD" in the equation. Common tactic used by Christians. Atheists can only shake their heads.
    I already told you, Logic = intelligence, we call the possessor of that intelligence as God. Can there be anything else? you can't fill the gap by answering "chemicals" that would be absurd. Whatever that source is can't be something material,impersonal and dumb.

    Science too has their own version of "god of the gaps", they call it "Time". When asked to account for scientific evidence of how snakes evolved into birds and ila ma reply ra jud sir is...by millions of years mahimong bird ang snake. naa silay evidence? wala.

  5. #485

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    You never question the air you breathe, otherwise you'd be dead.
    non-sequitor.

  6. #486

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    Like what?
    like the air you breathe.

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    I grew up as a protestant.
    Then I decided I would not want to believe in a God (in the bible) anymore.
    Then I practice meditation.
    Slowly, I started to understand things in this life.
    And I came up with a new understanding of this universe, about our soul and our life.

    I do not want to argue anything about God.
    Everything we "know" about Him is mere speculations.
    But I do not dare to deny the presence of a God.
    I'm not that arrogant yet.

    For me the UNIVERSE in my GOD.
    from my own understanding:
    We are living in Him.
    SOUL
    Our soul comes from him and returns to Him when we die.
    But we will be born again to reap His reward or suffer our consequence.
    Our soul is a recorder of our actions and decisions,
    it reconfigures itself to record everything in a lifetime.
    And when you die and return to God,
    everything you did will be read by God from your soul.
    KARMA
    You will surely get what you deserve.
    God created universal principles that could never be tampered with.
    A principle of balance. That could be achieved within a lifetime or more.
    Whatever you owe, you have to pay them in this lifetime or the next.
    That's universal justice.
    MISSION
    Every soul has a mission, task, or consequence to accomplish within one life time.
    Although, after you been through a tough life of consequence, you get a short "healing" life;
    Healing life is where you do not have a consequence and you just die young.
    Once you accomplished your mission in this life, you die.
    TALENTS
    One is rewarded with talents if he accomplished his mission in the previous life.
    The more missions you accomplished the more talents you get.
    And all of this data is carried in your soul.
    HARDSHIP
    Hardship is a consequence of a life of wrong decisions.
    If you are poor now, it means you've wasted your money in your previous life.
    If you are disabled now, it means you abused that part of your body in the previous life.
    If you are struggling to survive it means you had an easy previous life but you never helped anyone in that life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    Like what?
    If you believe in a God, everything becomes evidence of His existence.

    If you don't believe in a God, everything becomes evidence of his non existence.

  9. #489

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    Quote Originally Posted by nowpress* View Post
    I already told you, Logic = intelligence, we call the possessor of that intelligence as God. Can there be anything else? you can't fill the gap by answering "chemicals" that would be absurd. Whatever that source is can't be something material,impersonal and dumb.

    Science too has their own version of "god of the gaps", they call it "Time". When asked to account for scientific evidence of how snakes evolved into birds and ila ma reply ra jud sir is...by millions of years mahimong bird ang snake. naa silay evidence? wala.
    If you say there is a "source" and that this "source is called God", you first have to demonstrate that this is true, otherwise there is no reason to work on this assumption. Unsa lagi evidence nimo nga si God imong source? That's my biggest problem. Hantud karon wala pa gyud nakatubag ana---gi tuyok2x ra ninyo.

    non-sequitor.
    I was playin'...

  10. #490

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    If you say there is a "source" and that this "source is called God", you first have to demonstrate that this is true, otherwise there is no reason to work on this assumption. Unsa lagi evidence nimo nga si God imong source? That's my biggest problem. Hantud karon wala pa gyud nakatubag ana---gi tuyok2x ra ninyo.



    I was playin'...
    Evidence man kaha sir? not proof ha? kay there is a big difference between these two.

    wa man nako na toyok toyoka sir. mora ra gud ana sir, kita ka og makina it's against logic kog mosolti ka nga kin nga makina was created by chemicals w/o any intelligence OR nitunga ra man ni og kalit. you can't say that. The best and most logical to say is there is a creator or an engineer nga nagbohat ani nga makina. so katong makina sir evidence na siya nga naay engineer. although wa ta kita sa gahimo but our logic will tell us nga naay creator.

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