Who caused MORE damage to the country, ERAP OR GMA? Why?

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

so dapat jud d i i-agi og impeachment si GMA,

On what grounds ? Talking to GARCI ?

bisan ikaw naka ingon ka nga ga-hisgot jud sila og tikas.

Never ko naka ingon ana bai because I personally is not in the position to tell the WHAT , WHEN , WHERE , WHY . Ikaw ba naa sa position otherwise everything is SPECUALTIONS na gi sensationalized .

So there's a very high possibility that GMA used her power and Phils. money in her re-election.

Maybe or maybe not .... unsay basehan ? Because someone said it ?

ERAP was not proven jud pero na PITI siya kay tungod dunay mga bug-at nga testimonya nga gihatag against niya.

Â* Wala diay ma proven ? You are GUILTY until PROVEN INNOCENT .. ngano prisohon man ang INOSENTE ?

Why not look on it... instead of trashing down lang dayon sa ga ingon nga nanikas siya og gigamit ang kwarta sa gobyerno.

Â* Because walay basehan lage . Ikumpara kang ERAP ga baha^ ang basehan na garapalan kaau .

Why do you people think Marcos had ruled the Phils for 20 yrs and caused great damage?

Hehehe ... bai a corrupt person who is in command for the next 20 years is really a great damage . Great na man gani damage ni ERAP na less than 1 term lang siya .

for me because most of the people have this mentallity "Bahala na sila diha... importante naa ko'y mapakaon sa akong pamilya og sa akong kaugalingon, dili bitaw ko ka kwarta kong mapahawa na si Marcos"

Hehehe ... mao lage na ... ikaw uns aman unhaon nimo ? Tiyan niom or tiyan sa silingan nimo na aktibista ?

[FK]

On what grounds ? Talking to GARCI ?

that's one... then ngano lagi wala to nila gi-tagaan og chance ang impeachment team to present evidences?

Never ko naka ingon ana bai because I personally is not in the position to tell the WHAT , WHEN , WHERE , WHY . Ikaw ba naa sa position otherwise everything is SPECUALTIONS na gi sensationalized.

You did... nangotana ko nimo b4 kong base sa ilang gi-istoryahan maka-ingon ba ka nga ga-hisgot sila ni ingon ka og YES.

Maybe or maybe not .... unsay basehan ? Because someone said it ?

ERAPs case I believe started because someone said it...

Wala diay ma proven ? You are GUILTY until PROVEN INNOCENT .. ngano prisohon man ang INOSENTE ?

prisohon ang inosente to prevent niya sa paglayas sa iyang tulubagon sa balaod.Â* hehehe... kamo ra bitaw ga ingon nga kong wala ma prove sa court innocent pa gihapon si GMA.

Because walay basehan lage . Ikumpara kang ERAP ga baha^ ang basehan na garapalan kaau .

ERAPS gabaha nga basehan came only after the impeachment proceedings in congress... evidences will just come during trial or pre-trial.Â* Since during the pre-trial stage instead nga tan-awon nila kong naa bay basihanan, they decided to tackle on the technical side of it... so how did you know wala'y basehanan?

Hehehe ... mao lage na ... ikaw uns aman unhaon nimo ? Tiyan niom or tiyan sa silingan nimo na aktibista ?

dayon kong mao bai ngano ni lihok man gihapon sila against Marcos?Â* Nangabusog na ba sila ato mao ni go against na silang Marcos?

And btw how sure are you that GMA is not like them?

[bfg9000]

On what grounds ? Talking to GARCI ?

You make it sound like they were just talking about the weather... they were talking about committing election fraud! And before you reply that it's not proven... please tell me... what else does "yung dagdag yung dagdag" and "yung magpapataas sa yo" mean? Were they talking about making elevator shoes to increase GMA's height, since she's "vertically challenged"?

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

that's one... then ngano lagi wala to nila gi-tagaan og chance ang impeachment team to present evidences?

Â* Â*Hehehe ... we are going in circles ... you knew why the IMPEACHMENT was trashed right ?

You did... nangotana ko nimo b4 kong base sa ilang gi-istoryahan maka-ingon ba ka nga ga-hisgot sila ni ingon ka og YES.

As an OPINION that SHE violated a policy of talking to a COMELEC official and not that I am sensationalizing what they were talking about . If you are gonna tell me you knew what they are talking about basing on the tapes u heard from downloading in the internet .. thats BS bai . It wasnt even AUTHENTICATED then samotan pa na sa cyberspace ang sources ninyo .

ERAPs case I believe started because someone said it...

And was GUILTY of it .

prisohon ang inosente to prevent niya sa paglayas sa iyang tulubagon sa balaod.Â* hehehe... kamo ra bitaw ga ingon nga kong wala ma prove sa court innocent pa gihapon si GMA.

Â* Yup mao bitaw angay na si PGMA ma preso pod kay guilty siya ... but why is she still free ? because she is not guilty to the accusations that were thrown at her by the OPPOSITION .

ERAPS gabaha nga basehan came only after the impeachment proceedings in congress... evidences will just come during trial or pre-trial.Â* Since during the pre-trial stage instead nga tan-awon nila kong naa bay basihanan, they decided to tackle on the technical side of it... so how did you know wala'y basehanan?

SImple ... IBASURA ba gud na ug naay enough grounds to impeach her as basis ?

dayon kong mao bai ngano ni lihok man gihapon sila against Marcos?Â* Nangabusog na ba sila ato mao ni go against na silang Marcos?

I was asking that question to you personally and not those Marcos era personalities na ni against niya .

And btw how sure are you that GMA is not like them?

I am not that sure but I do TRUST her instincts of lifting us up as FIlipinos ... ikaw how sure are you na SHE is as GUILTY as ERAP ?

@ BFG9000

You make it sound like they were just talking about the weather... they were talking about committing election fraud!

Â* Did you hear the tape na dili downloaded and fabricated and was AUTHENTICATED ? Otherwise usa ra ka sa mga tao na gi basehan ang statements gikan sa uban na tao ra pod .

You just sounded like kung ingnon ka ug kaon ug tae .. mo kaon dayon ka because someone said it .

And before you reply that it's not proven... please tell me... what else does "yung dagdag yung dagdag" and "yung magpapataas sa yo" mean? Were they talking about making elevator shoes to increase GMA's height, since she's "vertically challenged"?

Nope ... they are talking about how give more votes to FPJ and LACSON para naay challenge .

[bfg9000]

Did you hear the tape na dili downloaded and fabricated and was AUTHENTICATED ? Otherwise usa ra ka sa mga tao na gi basehan ang statements gikan sa uban na tao ra pod .

You just sounded like kung ingnon ka ug kaon ug tae .. mo kaon dayon ka because someone said it .

Actually, GMA herself admitted to being on the tape! Except that she calls "cheating" a mere "lapse in judgement".

As for being "authenticated", isn't that what the impeachment proceeding was supposed to do as part of its investigation? Why did the administration kill the impeachment on a technicality?

As for believing what other people say... aren't you doing the same thing? You just blindly believe in GMA, Bunye and that clown Defensor? If GMA told you to eat "tae", to use your own vulgar terms, you probably would.

Actually you already do... you eat GMA's bullshit.

And before you reply that it's not proven... please tell me... what else does "yung dagdag yung dagdag" and "yung magpapataas sa yo" mean? Were they talking about making elevator shoes to increase GMA's height, since she's "vertically challenged"?

Nope ... they are talking about how give more votes to FPJ and LACSON para naay challenge .

Haha! Can't give a coherent explanation as to why GMA said that to Garci, can you?

[tolstoi]

OT: sa pagkataas sa thread abot gyud tag TAE ani..heheh

well between the two.the one who cause more damage to our country is definitely ERAP..the brain of all this mess :mrgreen:

[bfg9000]

OT: sa pagkataas sa thread abot gyud tag TAE ani..heheh

OT: Well obviously someone here thinks vulgarity is approriate in this forum... emotions getting the better of him perhaps... or a sign of lack of good manners.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Actually, GMA herself admitted to being on the tape! Except that she calls "cheating" a mere "lapse in judgement".

Hehehe ... of course everyone knows she talked to Garci but where did you find the CHEATING a mere LAPSE of JUDGEMENT ? Murag diri ra man sa iSTORYA cguro na because AFAIK ang lapse of judgement she was referring to was TALKING to GARCI itself and not what they are talking about .

As for being "authenticated", isn't that what the impeachment proceeding was supposed to do as part of its investigation? Why did the administration kill the impeachment on a technicality?

It was only a factor and part as evidence but not the core of the IMPEACHMENT process . The technicality on the impeachment wasnt about the tape being not authenticated .

As for believing what other people say... aren't you doing the same thing? You just blindly believe in GMA, Bunye and that clown Defensor? If GMA told you to eat "tae", to use your own vulgar terms, you probably would.

Ga libog na ka sa gipangsulti nimo . Dili ko TUTA and a BELIEVER of anything under the sun ANTI PGMA . I believed in her because I chose to believe her as an effective leader and not that I know she is not capable of running the country and nagpakatuta lang gihapon ko . How about you ? How sure are you na dili pod ikaw ang nagpakabuta and nagpaka bungol ??

Actually you already do... you eat GMA's bull***t.

Too bad her BS is so good that I wanted more and kamo mga ANTI hantod na lang mo sa laway till the next election .

Haha! Can't give a coherent explanation as to why GMA said that to Garci, can you?

Â*Just like ur stand of her conversation understanding that she wanted a higher shoe literally . Seryoso ka ana pagsabot niom bai ? Hehehe .... SARCASTIC lang gani ko ... refer dayon ka na BS ko and si PGMA .

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

OT: Well obviously someone here thinks vulgarity is approriate in this forum... emotions getting the better of him perhaps... or a sign of lack of good manners.

So u are saying the word TAE is VULGAR ?? Hehehe .... guess what , what I say in here is what I am in person . Take it and live with it because I am not like some of the people hereÂ* who NAGPAKA ARON INGNON lang . If you dig deeper on what I said .... but wala gihapon ka nakasabot .. I rather be bastos than bogo . Survival of the fittest . Secondly ... speaking of EMOTIONS ... ang tao na mo react and di madawat ang nagpadala sa EMOTIONS .... ask around how SPRINGFIELD talks here nagpadala ba ko sa EMOTIONS nako .

Bottomline is PRANKA ko and di magpa GORYO GORYO .

[FK]

As an OPINION that SHE violated a policy of talking to a COMELEC official and not that I am sensationalizing what they were talking about . If you are gonna tell me you knew what they are talking about basing on the tapes u heard from downloading in the internet .. thats BS bai . It wasnt even AUTHENTICATED then samotan pa na sa cyberspace ang sources ninyo .

it was authenticated bai by the opposition... again bai dali ra kaau pagbungkag ani nga ebidensiya... but they have failed.
The voices and the content are the same... what if came from cyberspace? Dba kanang case ron nila Aragoncillo ang uban ebidensiya gikan man sa cyberspace? what makes it now that the voices that was downloaded from cyberspace became less credible?

Honestly bai why I think that you think it is BS? because it's against GMA.

Yup mao bitaw angay na si PGMA ma preso pod kay guilty siya ... but why is she still free ? because she is not guilty to the accusations that were thrown at her by the OPPOSITION .

And I thought you knew that not all that are thrown to jail and not all that outside jail is not guilty. Sige gani ka ingon nga si Lacson is guilty of all illegal activities... is he in jail?

SImple ... IBASURA ba gud na ug naay enough grounds to impeach her as basis ?

you know why it was trash right? was it because there was no enough grounds or was it because of technicality? just answer me if it was because of lack of evidence or mere technicality.

I am not that sure but I do TRUST her instincts of lifting us up as FIlipinos ... ikaw how sure are you na SHE is as GUILTY as ERAP ?

I have answered this a couple of times... ako sa pangitaon to akong tubag.

Nope ... they are talking about how give more votes to FPJ and LACSON para naay challenge .

listen to the conversation bai og gamita imong dunggan pagsabot... kong after ka naminaw maka-ingon gihapon ka ana, then I believe you have different style of understanding.

Did you hear the tape na dili downloaded and fabricated and was AUTHENTICATED ? Otherwise usa ra ka sa mga tao na gi basehan ang statements gikan sa uban na tao ra pod.

it got me thinking... ngano wala man naka huna2x ang administration ani nga idea? maybe because it's a lame excuse.

again the administration can easily destroy this conversation by presenting that this are not real. Again they failed.