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  1. #441

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterK View Post
    pero naa gyapon matawag ug bunyag pero di na kinahanglan nga tubig ang gamiton.

    atleast naa gyapon kay matawag ug "church of christ" bisan wala lang ginganlan dili gyud ingon nga nagsolo ra ka nga walay kauban. kay sa ako pagsabot gud church gyud ang gitukod ni kristo ug dili magsolosolo lang. ok bro naksabot nako sa imong giingon nga wala kay simbahan. thanks for sharing
    share lang ko gamay bro ha

    for me, Church is the collective spiritual body of believer in Christ...not the building.
    Separated for His purpose.

    Question: What does "church" mean?

    Answer: The word church is from the Greek word ekklesia. Ekklesia is not a religious word as originally used among the Greeks. Ekklesia is a compound word meaning "ek, out of, and klesis, a calling" (W.E. Vine, vol. 1 pg. 83). The word is used in its basic, secular sense in Acts 19: 32, 39 - an assembly and, then, a lawful assembly.

    The Holy Spirit spiritually used the word church. The first time ekklesia (church) is used in the spiritual sense is in Matthew 16: 18, where Jesus promised to build His church (ekklesia). Applied spiritually, ekklesia suggests the called out of - that is, the saved who are called out of the word (John 17). "Church" (ekklesia) is used to denote all the saved without any particular geographic designation (Matt. 16: 1, and of the saved in a particular geographic area (1 Cor. 1: 2). "Church" used universally (all the saved) is always used in the singular. "Churches," plural, refers to a number of local churches, the saved in geographic areas. Hence, Paul wrote, "... The churches of Christ salute you" (Rom. 16: 16). "Church" is applied to the assembly of God's people (1 Cor. 14: 19). "Church" denotes the saved who have banded together and have the full development as far as organization is concerned (Acts 14: 23). The local church, when fully organized has elders (bishops) and deacons (Phil. 1: 1; 1 Tim. 3: 1-13). "Church" is also used of the banded together saved in the absence of the full organization(Acts 14: 23).

    How "church is not used. Out of the 115 times "church" is used in the Greek New Testament, it never refers to the building in which the church meets. "Church" is also never used to denote denominations. While it is true that denominations, as such, did not exist in the First Century, "church" is not applied to unauthorized religious groups such as the Nicolaitanes, etc. (Rev. 2: 6, cf. vs. 1).

    What does "church" mean?

  2. #442
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    ang akong nahibaw-an bro, nga literal ra kaayo inyong nasabtan about sa baptism. mao nga naay uban, bunyag bata pa, naa pud uban huwat ug 18 unya lumsan gamay. hehehe joke lng.

    pero sa amoa, gipasabot mi ug maayo sa pagbaptize ni John the Baptist ni Jesus, si Jesus sa iyang mga disciples ug mga disciples sa ila pud gipang baptize
    Share daw diri bro kung giunsa pag perform ang baptism ni John the Baptist kay Jesus Christ. Kanang dili istorya2 lang ha kay mahimo nang ilad2, naa jud proof!

  3. #443
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    pareha ra man bro ky pareha ra man ang verse, lahi lahi lng ang interpretasyon. sa inyoha, gipakisama sa tawhanong pagsabot
    Tawhanon jud bro kay dili manta ginoo! mao bitaw purpose gisuwat na nga masabtan sa atong level.

  4. #444
    Quote Originally Posted by THE SKULLS View Post
    hesus hesus hesus
    hhehehhe! the heat is on bro

  5. #445
    Sakto bro. Church is the called out ones to become the house of God, the kingdom of God, the priesthood of God, the building of God and the body of Christ, the new man, the new creation, the bride of Christ. Ultimately, the church will become the new jerusalem to become the consummation of the Church to one with God in eternity in Christ.

  6. #446
    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    Wala jud bro. Balik me sa original practice sa mga new testament believers. Brod pwedi i private message lang ang mga pangutana nga sama ani kay di ko ganahan makaingun sad ang uban nanani ko sa uban. Palihog ug tagana daan ug space sa imo inbox. Hehehe.
    aw wala na ko lain pa pangutana nimo sa pagkakaron bro. nakakuha na ko ato imo mga tubag.

    @jovi: kamo bro na sad mo bunyag2x?

  7. #447
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterK View Post
    nyahaha ayaw bugal2x bro jovi kandingon raba kaau ko LoL. dili bro jovs, ako lang gikalro kung duna ba gyud sila'y grupo. ug ako nasabtan nga duna gyud diay pero wala lang nila ginganlan. basta Chirstiasn Church lang gud pero wala lang tingali girehistro sa pareha anang SEEC bah as an organization sad ni ilaha.

    pero dili tingali madawat ang preha nako didto ila bro jovs kay mabaw ra kaau ni akoa. mga chosen na ilaha diha. kani akoa binata ra kaau ni. hehehe
    Sa akoa sad bro, dili man ang atong intellect or level of spirituality ang makapaluwas nato, but our Faith in Jesus Christ. Ang importante lang, there should be proof of transformation if we truly believed. Dili lang sad sa dila ra kutob.

  8. #448
    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    Nga kulto mo sumala sa bible.
    mao ra hehehe. kulang man kaayo na bro? gi unsa man nimo pagkabalo? any proof? bible gihapon?

  9. #449
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterK View Post
    aw wala na ko lain pa pangutana nimo sa pagkakaron bro. nakakuha na ko ato imo mga tubag.

    @jovi: kamo bro na sad mo bunyag2x?
    Yes Bro naa sad sila and it is a "must".

    Source: Baptism - Jesus and John

  10. #450
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    mao ra hehehe. kulang man kaayo na bro? gi unsa man nimo pagkabalo? any proof? bible gihapon?
    Giunsa nako pagkahibalo? Naa moy website gibasa nako ning website ninyo. Ako kompletohun ug basa ning inyo website.

    Original Christianity and Original Yoga

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