Discussion on the Christ Jesus.

[IdontCare]

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I love to see a verse from anyone that saying "equal in power na sila pero not in authority".

bro, claiming is one thing but proving is another thing.
SHow verse directly, kay kung naa pa hagbay ra nimo gipakita.

Peace!

Sure bro...

pero naa naman gi pang post diah nga explanation sa trinity nya naa poy verses so tan-awa nalang na,ok ra ba na? or gusto jud ka ako mismo ang mo post.

Then to prove nga dili sila equal sa authority wa katong mga verses nga imong gi pakita.

[rcruman]

The term 'Trinity'
As we all know Divine Revelation is explained through the centuries by some theological terms, though those are insufficient to explain the truth revealed, in depth! We can never find the word ‘Bible’ in an authentic translation of the Bible. Bible itself is a term that appeared in history from the 4th century! But we believe in It.! Similarly, we don’t see the word Trinity in the bible, but to explain the Divine Mystery revealed to us about God the Father, the Son and The Holy Spirit, we use the term ‘Trinity’.
The word trinity is 1st used by St.Theophilus of Antioch in his book ‘Epistle to Antolycus’ in A.D 180(Greek: triados) Remember, at that time there was no ‘bible’ in the Church! In fact the term Trinity is more ancient than the word ‘bible’ itself! Before the formation of the Bible those who worked behind the creation of a canonical book ‘bible’, believed and accepted ‘The Trinity’ as God’s
revealed truth handed over to them from the apostles! After some years Tertullian (A.D 160-250) used a Latin term for Trinity (trinitas) in his work ‘Modesty’. He wrote” Trinity of the one Divinity; Father, Son and Holy Spirit”

sure ka ani? walay word nga "Bible" sa bible? Pero naay bible sa bible?
kahibalo ka kung unsay meaning sa "BIBLE"?

Those who deny Divinity of Jesus are compelled to deny the Divine nature of Holy Spirit! For them Trinity of God is beyond human understanding! So deny it! They just forget the fact; God who created man can never be a slave of human intelligence! For them Holy Spirit is only an angel or one of the seven spirits! They try to confuse Trinity as Tri-theism (Three-gods!) Criticize Catholics as ‘Trinitarians’ Did God reveals Himself as ‘Trinity’ in the Bible? How do we understand this Great Mystery?

The term 'Trinity'
As we all know Divine Revelation is explained through the centuries by some theological terms, though those are insufficient to explain the truth revealed, in depth! We can never find the word ‘Bible’ in an authentic translation of the Bible. Bible itself is a term that appeared in history from the 4th century! But we believe in It.! Similarly, we don’t see the word Trinity in the bible, but to explain the Divine Mystery revealed to us about God the Father, the Son and The Holy Spirit, we use the term ‘Trinity’.
The word trinity is 1st used by St.Theophilus of Antioch in his book ‘Epistle to Antolycus’ in A.D 180(Greek: triados) Remember, at that time there was no ‘bible’ in the Church! In fact the term Trinity is more ancient than the word ‘bible’ itself! Before the formation of the Bible those who worked behind the creation of a canonical book ‘bible’, believed and accepted ‘The Trinity’ as God’s
revealed truth handed over to them from the apostles! After some years Tertullian (A.D 160-250) used a Latin term for Trinity (trinitas) in his work ‘Modesty’. He wrote” Trinity of the one Divinity; Father, Son and Holy Spirit”


HOLY TRINITY IN THE NEW TESTAMENT
Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father in union with Jesus. John 15:26 – “But when the Comforter comes, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceeds from the Father, he shall testify me.” Bible uses the Greek word ‘pneuma’ (pnyoo’-mah’) for Holy Spirit, which means ‘breath’ or ‘life giving spirit’. When God created man He ‘breathed’ on Adam and gave him life. Jesus breathed on apostles and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit” (Jn. 20.21) Holy Spirit is the Breath of the Father and The Son, who is proceeding from both of them!
Jesus himself reveals the unity and equality of three persons of Trinity when he commanded: Mathew 28:19 “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” Here the ‘name’ singular is used for the plurality of “Father, Son and the Holy Spirit “(not the plural ‘names’). This singular ‘name’ implies the fundamental unity of Three Divine Persons. Those who deny divine nature of Jesus and The Holy Spirit are baptizing their members “In the name of the Father, the God, Son the man, Holy Spirit an angel.” Through baptism God, who is the Trinity, chooses us. I Pet 1.2: “who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ”.
St. Paul explains this mystery more clearer when he says: “ There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit, there are different kinds of service, but the same Lord, there are different kinds of working, but the same God works all of them in all men” (1Cor: 12.4). The creative work of Heavenly Father, the redemptive work of The Son and sanctifying work of The Spirit are same work of the Almighty.

asa sa bible nga equal sila og power?

Sure bro...

pero naa naman gi pang post diah nga explanation sa trinity nya naa poy verses so tan-awa nalang na,ok ra ba na? or gusto jud ka ako mismo ang mo post.

Then to prove nga dili sila equal sa authority wa katong mga verses nga imong gi pakita.

Yes gusto nako ikaw ang mo-post og asa man sa mga ubang posters nga naka post na sila og Trinity nga naa sa Bible nga equal og power?

give you a hint, pareha bag power ang musugo og ang gisugo?
kung gisugo ka buot pasabot nga mas labaw nimo ang nagsugo kay gisugo gud ka.

Bro I'm waiting for your post about TRINITY (that has equal power).

Gahi na lang gyud tag ulo, si Christo na gyud mismo ang nagingon.

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
John 14:28


Peace!

[IdontCare]

Naa diay word nga BIBLE sa bible? WORD nga BIBLE ha.

Asa sa bible nga equal sila ug power? asa sa bible ang trinity? osa lang sa ka verse ha para di ta maglibog.

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."----Gen.1:26


Let US make man in our image--- The verses said US meaning plural then it continue saying MAKE man in OUR IMAGE.


Then Genesis 1:27 says-----So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.


So GOD CREATED MAN(female n male) in His own IMAGE.


So naka follow ka sa pasabot sa mga verses?

first ingun ang Ginoo Let US make man in OUR IMAGE, Bro US ang gisulti sa bibliya ha. Sa ato pa daghan.

Nya sa laing verses ingun didto nga HEAR o israel the Lord or God is ONE GOD, so sa ato pa nag contradict ang bibliya? NO

karun masabtan nato sa New Testament sa panahon gi baptise c Jesus...Sa pag baptise niya naay Tingog na dungog sa langit ug naay DOVE nga ni tugpa sa iyang ulohan.

So tingog sa langit, Jesus sa tubig, dove nga nitugpa symbolising the Holy Spirit.

kana lang sa para ma entertain nako ang imong pangutana.

[IdontCare]

oi nalimot ko about sa equal in power, mao ni akong tubag.


mao gihapon nga verse bro sa Gen.1:26

kung dili pa equal ilang power dili unta sila tulo ang magbuhat sa Tao.

bro ang gisugo equal ba sa power sa nagsugo? depende kung unsay pasabot nimo anang power.

example ako anak ko ug tag-iya sa osa ka hotel pero nagtrabaho ko sa hotel as supervisor ra then here comes the manager nGA GI SWELDOHAN ra nya sogoon ko ug tan-aw sa mga personnel. karun mangutana ko nimo...

kinsa kaha ang mas gamhanan, anak sa tag-iya sa hotel or ang gi sweldohan nga manager? So bro mao ng depende lagi sa term nga power.

kay puede man equal mo ug power pero sogoon ka gihapon kay gi delegate na nimo nga trabaho.

So mas mo prefer ko nga Eqal in power but not in authority.

[dartzed]

this is just all you've got?

Peace!

nanghagit ka bro?..

hehehe ok rsad bro..

tubaga sa ako mga previews na questions una ka mubato ani na words..

hehehe

peace sad

[ondoy]

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
John 14:28


Unsay meaning anang "Ye"?

[Mr.Ho_chia]

ye and you pareha ra.

[rcruman]

nanghagit ka bro?..
hehehe ok rsad bro..
tubaga sa ako mga previews na questions una ka mubato ani na words..
hehehe
peace sad

unsa diay gusto nimo itubag sa imo question? wala diay nako tubaga or nitago lang ka ani nga statement to divert the discussion.
Bro kung wala matubag ibalik og pangutana kay dili baya kini ra ang topic dinhi nga section daghan baya, basin nakalimtan nako or dili nimo dawaton ang tubag.

Peace!

[dartzed]

unsa diay gusto nimo itubag sa imo question? wala diay nako tubaga or nitago lang ka ani nga statement to divert the discussion.
Bro kung wala matubag ibalik og pangutana kay dili baya kini ra ang topic dinhi nga section daghan baya, basin nakalimtan nako or dili nimo dawaton ang tubag.

Peace!

naa ra oh napan-os nlang na... nya ako pah imo pasanginlan ako cge divert divert ka jan..

nah equal giunsa gud na pgkaequal kung naa isa mas gamhanan?..
but dont worry i know unsa imo point at that part kabasa sad ko ana..

huh niana dai ko nituo ka sa holy trinity mura niobject man guro ka mao niask ko question nimo...
its the same with 3 persona but one God..

y nakaingon man ka na nagmix tawn na oi na mao rman japon na..

cge na balik nta: 3 persons one God you preffer this one man kaha d man kaha ka mutuo Trinity..
cge tagae ko verse na strongly mkaprove na naa three intities and three Gods..

mao rana ako point bro nothing more...

peace sad..

[IdontCare]

sure ka ani? walay word nga "Bible" sa bible? Pero naay bible sa bible?
kahibalo ka kung unsay meaning sa "BIBLE"?
asa sa bible nga equal sila og power?
Yes gusto nako ikaw ang mo-post og asa man sa mga ubang posters nga naka post na sila og Trinity nga naa sa Bible nga equal og power?

give you a hint, pareha bag power ang musugo og ang gisugo?
kung gisugo ka buot pasabot nga mas labaw nimo ang nagsugo kay gisugo gud ka.

Bro I'm waiting for your post about TRINITY (that has equal power).

Gahi na lang gyud tag ulo, si Christo na gyud mismo ang nagingon.

28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
John 14:28


Peace!

Bro naa nakoy tubag ani pki scroll up lang sa taas ha. Ty!