Everything about : RH Bill ( Reproductive Health Bill)

[Raikage]

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the role of the church is to oppose.

I thinks it's not to oppose , but to solidify what the Church is teaching.

[hobie]

To keep the morale of our people and our country

[meowa]

the role of the chuch or any religious organization is to guide its constituents, not to brainwash, not to dictate.

[oalx]

kay tawhanon man ni nga issue, dako jud og role ang simbahan ani.
pero ang simbahan way ikatabang pagsulbad sa nagkadako na nato nga
population......

[cottonmouth]

"Argumentum ad Baculum" that's their role. If you know what it means, ya know what I mean.

[saint-0410]

Ok ra mn. The Bill is not what telling us to do. It is simply giving us the choice. Ang nkapaet lng kay daghan mga bata, especially sa mga Catholic schools, gipasign sa petition to quash the bill maski wla cla kabalo unsa ni about. Hypocrite ra sd kau ang simbahan. Even God has given us choices. I say Go ahead and ratify
this Bill.

[Raikage]

"Argumentum ad Baculum" that's their role. If you know what it means, ya know what I mean.

Dont know what this means....can u explain....

is this latin? .......mga lawyers ramay kasabot ani.....

r u a lawyer? cz I dont think u r 1.

[YellowSubmarine]

sa internet daghan jud ka mahibaw-an just google it

Argumentum ad baculum (Latin for argument to the cudgel or appeal to the stick), also known as appeal to force, is an argument where force, coercion, or the threat of force, is given as a justification for a conclusion. It is a specific case of the negative form of an argument to the consequences.


Argumentum ad baculum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[mannyamador]

Ok ra mn. The Bill is not what telling us to do. It is simply giving us the choice.

That is UNTRUE. You can already get contraceptives anytime you want, and in some clinics these are already free. You don't need a new law and spend 2 billion pesos to have that choice. You already have it.

The bill actually FORCES people to dispense abortifacients AGAINST their conscience, and silences opposition to it.

Section 21 (e) of the proposed bill lists the following as a prohibited act: “Any person who maliciously engages in disinformation about the intent or provisions of this Act." This provision is overly broad and “disinformation” could (and most probably will) be construed as prohibiting the expression of objections to the Bill, such as what we are presently doing. This provision is is obviously going to be used to suppress dissent, and is an undue restriction of freedom of speech. It has no place in any of the laws of a democratic nation.

Section 17, on the other hand, mandates employers must provide such abortifacients and other contraceptives to employees. It states that, “All Collective Bargaining Agreements (CBAs) shall provide for the free delivery by the employer of reasonable quantity of reproductive health care services, supplies and devices to all workers, more particularly women workers.” Employers, therefore, are not given any choice despite the fact that distribution of these abortifacients and contraceptives may be against their conscience.

Section 21, number 5, requires doctors and health workers to dispense such abortifacients and other artificial contraceptive devices and methods. If they refuse to do so on religious grounds, they must still refer those who want to use such abortifacients to another person who will dispense them. Conscientious objectors are thereby required to cooperate in such acts, and if they refuse, they are slapped penalties ranging from one to six months imprisonment and a fine of P10,000-P50,000! HB 5043 eliminates any choice for conscientious objectors and makes no room for their legitimate concerns.

Some choice! This bill destroys choice! It is oppressive and should be junked along with the stupid congressmen who authored it.

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[mannyamador]

"Argumentum ad Baculum" that's their role.

The Church's role is to educate. It exposes the dangers to democracy and health issues caused by the provisions in the bill,. Unlike the advocates of the Bill who want to silence opposition to it with their provision in the bill that punishes "disinformation". What a lousy bill!

Sign the petition against this death bill (HB 5043)
http://www.petitiononline.com/xxhb5043/petition.html