The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

[slabdans]

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another question, while waiting for the answers... kung naay power ang Black Nazarene, nganong naay devoto nga namatay during sa prosesyon? kung naay fluvial parade sa usa ka saint, nganong naay trahedya nga nahitabo, naay mga nalunod ug mga nalumos? where is the power to prevent such tragedies?

kani di gyud ko katubag ani di man ko deboto

[slabdans]

asa man ang gahum bro? napakgang na unta ang evil nga binuhatan?

nayabag na ka Jovi? ngano gud tawon mangita kag power sa simbahan? rebolto?...Ginoo ra ang mas labaw nga gamhanan...
sakto si Mods...Power of Love ang gitudlo sa simbahan, mahitungod sa kaluwasan.

di man mi parehas nimo nga cge abli2x 3rd eye...wala man mi nag pratis ug gahum

[SioDenz]

naa bro sioDenz..kato di ie pag hatag niya ni moses sa 10 commandments, ang Ginoo pa man gani mismo nag suwat mismo ato

Murag God the Father man to, di man to ang Holy Spirit. Pasabot nko kadtu holy Spirit nga ni kunsad pag bunyag ni Krsito sa River Jordan nag nag form nga Dove bah. Holy Spirit nga ni sulod sa mga magtotoo para maka Speak in Tongues sila.

[digitalsuperman]

another question, while waiting for the answers... kung naay power ang Black Nazarene, nganong naay devoto nga namatay during sa prosesyon? kung naay fluvial parade sa usa ka saint, nganong naay trahedya nga nahitabo, naay mga nalunod ug mga nalumos? where is the power to prevent such tragedies?

kani bro. tubagon raka ani ug common line nga "panahon naman nila..."

[acescream]

dartzed & noy thanks sa inyo mga answer. Pero mao lage mga bro dili jud satisfying kay inyo own ideas & thoughts inyo mga answer, wala moy supporting reference bisan sa Bible nalang unta, kung naa man di pa jud mao. Mahug ra man gud og in-ani:

Matthew 15:9 - "Their worship is a farce, for they teach man-made ideas as commands from God." New Living Translation (©2007)

2 Peter 3:16 - "...His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction."

Nagprovide man gud kog verses sa Bible nga tin-aw kaayo ang meaning dili mysterious sa bisan kinsa kamao mobasa as supporting data bale mahug nga ang Bible mismo ako gipasulti, den naa puy giprovide nga verses sa uban answer di pud mao ang meaning, mahug nga "gi-twist"..so mas maayo jud kung ang Bibliya mismo patubagon, kaysa kita2x ra, di ba? lisod naman if sa tawo ta motoo dili sa Bibliya kay di jud matubag ang pangutana pirme nalang ta buta ani.

Matthew 15:14 - "Leave them; they are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit."

Thanks nalang sa inyo effort.

[blackdream]

patay jd ko aning mga verses dah, dman ko kasagulo aning mga verse2x sa bible

[dartzed]

ok unahon sah ni nato c Jesus then ang Spirit later kay para d malibog...

thank you for elaborating your answer sir. here's what i found out from the verses you gave me:

John 4:10-13 --> what part here sir? this is about the lady he met in the well. maybe you are referring to John 10:30 - "I and the Father are one." Yes they are one sir, but not in being God, but they are one & the same in authority over the sheep. --> John 10:27-29 - "My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand."

I mean it's John 10:27-30 d i, when "Jesus said I and the Father are One" meaning same authority lang imo pasabot ani proceed bellow quote kay kani connected raman ni ako gi post..

Matt. 4:7; Luke 4:12 - "It is written..." --in here sir obviously Jesus is quoting a passage in the Old Testament to debunk what Satan is doing to him, just the same as we do when we quote verses in the Bible. Jesus is a Jew and they're using the Old Testament as their Holy Scripture whereas now we have the Old & New composing the Bible. Jesus is quoting Deutoronomy 6:16 - "Do not test the LORD your God as you did at Massah." Obviously sir he is not referring to himself as God in this verse.

Now why would he do that in reply with satan?.. pasabta daw ko bro if ako si Satan miingon kog ambak daw nya ikaw c Jesus mitubag ug ayaw tintala imo ginuo(ingon sa Deutoronomy 6:16).. kinsa man jud d i gitempt ni satan ug paambakon sa cliff dha sa Matt. 4:7; Luke 4:12?

Matt. 9:2; Mark 2:5; Luke 5:20; 7:48 - sir God is not the only one that can forgive sins since Jesus has been given the authority too by the Father. Matthew 28:18 - "Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me."

Ok authority japon: how bout this?

Matt. 18:20 Jesus says where two or three are gathered in His name, there He is in the midst of them. Only God is Omnipresent right?..
Titus 1:3-4 But has in due times manifested his word in preaching, which is committed to me according to the commandment of God our Saviour: To Titus, my beloved son according to the common faith, grace and peace, from God the Father and from Christ Jesus our Saviour.
Matt. 12:8; Mark 2:28; Luke 6:5 - Jesus says that He is "Lord of the Sabbath."

debunk that...

i'm quite intrigue sa imo bro can i ask asa ka nga religious sector nabelong? if you dont mind..

[Tirong-say]

another question, while waiting for the answers... kung naay power ang Black Nazarene, nganong naay devoto nga namatay during sa prosesyon? kung naay fluvial parade sa usa ka saint, nganong naay trahedya nga nahitabo, naay mga nalunod ug mga nalumos? where is the power to prevent such tragedies?

Death is always present anytime, anywhere, if it is your time to have it,
then surely you will get it.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Read more: 20 Popular Bible Verses About Life

[acescream]

ok unahon sah ni nato c Jesus then ang Spirit later kay para d malibog...



I mean it's John 10:27-30 d i, when "Jesus said I and the Father are One" meaning same authority lang imo pasabot ani proceed bellow quote kay kani connected raman ni ako gi post..



Now why would he do that in reply with satan?.. pasabta daw ko bro if ako si Satan miingon kog ambak daw nya ikaw c Jesus mitubag ug ayaw tintala imo ginuo(ingon sa Deutoronomy 6:16).. kinsa man jud d i gitempt ni satan ug paambakon sa cliff dha sa Matt. 4:7; Luke 4:12?



Ok authority japon: how bout this?

Matt. 18:20 Jesus says where two or three are gathered in His name, there He is in the midst of them. Only God is Omnipresent right?..
Titus 1:3-4 But has in due times manifested his word in preaching, which is committed to me according to the commandment of God our Saviour: To Titus, my beloved son according to the common faith, grace and peace, from God the Father and from Christ Jesus our Saviour.
Matt. 12:8; Mark 2:28; Luke 6:5 - Jesus says that He is "Lord of the Sabbath."

debunk that...

i'm quite intrigue sa imo bro can i ask asa ka nga religious sector nabelong? if you dont mind..

ok sir

Now why would he do that in reply with satan?.. pasabta daw ko bro if ako si Satan miingon kog ambak daw nya ikaw c Jesus mitubag ug ayaw tintala imo ginuo(ingon sa Deutoronomy 6:16).. kinsa man jud d i gitempt ni satan ug paambakon sa cliff dha sa Matt. 4:7; Luke 4:12?

sir ang gitintal ni Satanas diri kay si Hesus man, ang gibuhat ra niya kay nikutlo ra siya'g verse sa Scripture para dili cya madala sa tental og di cya makasala, bale nisunod ra siya unsa ang gisuwat sa Scripture, dili para moingon nga siya ang Diyos. Kay if molayat si Hesus, makasala siya sa Diyos kay nahug man nga iya nuon gitest si God. ato tun-an ang gikutlo ni Hesus gikan sa Deutoronomy ha...

Deuteronomy 6:16 - "Do not put the Lord your God to the test as you did at Massah." New International Version

unsa diay nahitabo didto sa Massah? mao ni sir dartzed:

Exodus 17:1-7 - The whole Israelite community set out from the Desert of Sin, traveling from place to place as the Lord commanded. They camped at Rephidim, but there was no water for the people to drink. So they quarreled with Moses and said, “Give us water to drink.”

Moses replied, “Why do you quarrel with me? Why do you put the Lord to the test?”

But the people were thirsty for water there, and they grumbled against Moses. They said, “Why did you bring us up out of Egypt to make us and our children and livestock die of thirst?”

Then Moses cried out to the Lord, “What am I to do with these people? They are almost ready to stone me.”

The Lord answered Moses, “Go out in front of the people. Take with you some of the elders of Israel and take in your hand the staff with which you struck the Nile, and go. 6 I will stand there before you by the rock at Horeb. Strike the rock, and water will come out of it for the people to drink.” So Moses did this in the sight of the elders of Israel. And he called the place Massah and Meribah because the Israelites quarreled and because they tested the Lord saying, “Is the Lord among us or not?”"

--Ang mga Israelita sauna sir kay halos tanan way salig nga naa nila ang Diyos, mao maduha2x-on sila ni Moses. Mao niy nahitabo dihang giuhaw sila, kay desiyerto man so lisod kaayo ang tubig, ila giaway si Moses nuon, kay kung nisalig pa sila sa Diyos, mo-ask sila nicely ni Moses nga tagaan silag tubig sa Diyos.
Parehas ra ni sa gibuhat ni Satanas ngadto ni Hesus. Awa sir ha naa ra pud na ibabaw gamay sa Matthew 4:7...

Matthew 4:5-6 - Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. For it is written:

“‘He will command his angels concerning you,
and they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’”

--diria sir iya gitest ang strength sa pagtoo(faith) ni Hesus ngadto sa Diyos. Kay if way salig si Hesus nga naa uban kaniya ang Diyos, aw molayat jud siya para iya masure niya luwason man jud cya mismo sa Diyos kay nakasulat na rba na(prophesy) sa Psalm 91:12. If molayat siya, makasa si Hesus ngadto sa Diyos. Parehas ra pud na sa mga Israelita sir, wala silay salig nga naa ang Diyos uban kanila, mao nangaway ni Moses imbis mohangyo ni Moses nga mangayo og tubig gikan sa Diyos. Kalooy sa Diyos(God's mercy), wa intawn siya nilayat, nisunod lang cya sa nakasulat. Gipastorya niya ang Scripture, dili kay iya2x ra. Kabantay pud ka sir, maro pud kaayo si Satanas nikutlo pud og verse sa Holy Scripture sa Psalm 91:12? Maayo kaayo sah, pero mas maayo si Hesus kay lig-on man iya gikutlo
Satanas man gud sir, sige panintal sa mga tawo, apil na si Hesus kay tawo baya na siya, pero dili Diyos, kay ang Diyos dili matintal:

James 1:13 - "When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;"

So if si Hesus mao ang Diyos, why bother tempting?

Matt. 18:20 Jesus says where two or three are gathered in His name, there He is in the midst of them. Only God is Omnipresent right?..

Matthew 18:20 - "For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them."

--it's not just God sir, also Jesus. For he has been given all authority in heaven & earth by God, remember? We all subject to Jesus. It's a God-given authority, it doesn't mean that if he can do it, he is God. He's just been given the authority, for Christ himself is still subject to God:

1 Corinthians 15:27-28 - "For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

--kani sir grabe kaayo ni katin-aw impossible dili masabtan ang logic ani napa gani:

1 Corinthians 11:3 - "Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God."

Titus 1:3-4 But has in due times manifested his word in preaching, which is committed to me according to the commandment of God our Saviour: To Titus, my beloved son according to the common faith, grace and peace, from God the Father and from Christ Jesus our Saviour.

sir, wala may duda, God is our Saviour, not just Jesus. He is even the savior of the people before Jesus came to being:

2 Samuel 22:3 - "my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield and the horn of my salvation. He is my stronghold, my refuge and my savior--from violent men you save me." New International Version (©1984)
^i forgot the name of the king..might be David?

Luke 1:47 - "and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior," New International Version (©1984)
^said Mary when she received the good news.

-- so it's not impossible to name God a Savior, Jesus is a Savior too but not God. Let's take a look again sa Titus 1:4:

Titus 1:4 - " To Titus, my true son in our common faith:
Grace and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior."

^gibuwag jud og acknowledge ang God og si Jesus. If ikaw ang magsuwat ani, lain man pud og "God the Savior and Jesus the Savior" di ba? Himoon nalang jud nimo unta nimog "God, who is Jesus our Savior" di ba if one & same ra cla.

Matt. 12:8; Mark 2:28; Luke 6:5 - Jesus says that He is "Lord of the Sabbath."

saka ta gamay ha sa Mark 2:27:

Mark 2:27-28 - "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath."

--kani sir mejo lisod ni..matod sa Bibliya, ang Sabbath naa para sa tawo, dili ang tawo para sa Sabbath. So meaning ang Sabbath, walay gahom over man, kundi ang tawo dunay gahom over Sabbath(naa ra sa tawo if musunod siya sa Sabbath or dili). Since ang Sabbath ato nga taym ni Hesus useless naman, niya si Hesus sa Ginoo(Lord), Lord gihapon siya mismo bisan sa Sabbath, dili mademote iyang pagka-Lord. Walay gahom ang Sabbath over niya mao mabuhat niya bisan unsa gusto niya buhaton during Sabbath, nga mao'y gikasuk-an sa mga Pariseo(Pharisees) ani nga tayma. Lord is a very high title of respect so it's not surprising iregard pud siya'g Lord sa mga followers. Di tungod kay Lord siya unya ang Diyos kay Lord, diyos na nuon siya..duha tuod ang gitawag sa mga followers og Lord pero usa ray pinaka-Lord, ang Diyos(see above verses, Christ is always subject to God). Unsaon nalang pud tong mga tawgon og lord sa mga slaves ato nga tayma maapil pud nuon sila ka diyos kay lord pud sila.

debunk that...

did I?

ok unahon sah ni nato c Jesus then ang Spirit later kay para d malibog...

--di man libog kung unsa si Jesus sir. Tin-aw man kaayo ang mga verses sa Bible nga dili siya ang Diyos, dili na kinahanglan huna2x-on og maayo unya ang "Jesus-is-God" verses kay pwerte hanapa..samot nag butangan og "mystery2x" kunohay. kana ako gipang-cite di pa na tanan nga verses nga nagstate sa fact nga si Jesus is infact a "very-special" man, for he was born from a virgin woman, an appointed Son of God(after sa baptism didto sa River Jordan courtesy of John the Baptist), the only man that didn't commit any sin(1 Peter 2:22) and is given the authority of all heaven & earth by the Father(Matthew 28:1

-unsaon nalang ang Holy Spirit

i'm quite intrigue sa imo bro can i ask asa ka nga religious sector nabelong? if you dont mind..

--kani sir ako nalang ni kay dili lalim mag-research sa Bible, sus pwerti kapoya kay dapat ipreserve jud nimo ang meaning sa verse, dili "ma-twist". I'm not also allowed to do this since dili ko usa ka missionary, nishare lang ko sa ako nahibal-an. Let's just say I'm an enlightened man and I don't have anymore questions about God and I believe in the Bible, and it's spiritual harmony -> meaning, the Bible itself, with it's many books(don't include the apocrypha books please, they're just added by the RCC esp those books were written after the death of Jesus & the Apostles, they're not accepted by scholars as 'legit' :P) have no contradictions within it.

Trivia: the doctrine about Trinity is just from Tertullian himself in the 3rd century, more than a hundred years from the death of Christ & the apostles.

Acts 20:29 - "I know that false teachers, like vicious wolves, will come in among you after I leave, not sparing the flock." New Living Translation (©2007)

^a warning from Apostle Paul himself, warning those in the flock what will definitely happen when the time of his death will come. The flock(church) will not even be spared. He foretold the Apostasy. (


thank you sir

[noy]

dartzed & noy thanks sa inyo mga answer. Pero mao lage mga bro dili jud satisfying kay inyo own ideas & thoughts inyo mga answer, wala moy supporting reference bisan sa Bible nalang unta, kung naa man di pa jud mao. Mahug ra man gud og in-ani:

Matthew 15:9 - "Their worship is a farce, for they teach man-made ideas as commands from God." New Living Translation (©2007)

2 Peter 3:16 - "...His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction."

Nagprovide man gud kog verses sa Bible nga tin-aw kaayo ang meaning dili mysterious sa bisan kinsa kamao mobasa as supporting data bale mahug nga ang Bible mismo ako gipasulti, den naa puy giprovide nga verses sa uban answer di pud mao ang meaning, mahug nga "gi-twist"..so mas maayo jud kung ang Bibliya mismo patubagon, kaysa kita2x ra, di ba? lisod naman if sa tawo ta motoo dili sa Bibliya kay di jud matubag ang pangutana pirme nalang ta buta ani.

Matthew 15:14 - "Leave them; they are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit."

Thanks nalang sa inyo effort.

pasensya bro if maohon

wakoy mahimu bro kung mao ra nay naabut sa akong nahibaw.an
Hope you find your way to the truth.
wa pud koy mahimu kung imung i compare ang RCC ana nga verses
kay we are entitled to our own POVs, imoha pud na

but if you'll be asking for Specifics on its Absolute form(No buts,no ifs,no perhaps,no maybe etc) nga masabtan nato given the capacity of the human brain...i can only wish you well
kay a finite mind can never quantify something infinite.

mao importante jud ang Faith ug relationship sa atong Ginoo
otherwise words in the bible will be just words and worse, basin malahi pa nato ug sabut.

like what St.Augustine said, "Believe and you will understand"

Godspeed!