Para nako bro, Ginoo ra jud ang nakabalo ana! Lisud jud bitaw na nga question, pero sa taw nga nangita jud sa kamatuoran/kaluwasan makakaplag jud sya.
For those that have heard the truth and yet reject it.....it is very clear in the bible that we will be separated from the presence of GOD throughout eternity!
Hope this helps....
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Last edited by Breakeven; 01-09-2013 at 02:16 PM.
sorry sir, but can somebody elaborate more please? i have some verses that might help:
John 17:3 - "Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." New International Version (©1984)
Luke 24:49 - "And now I will send the Holy Spirit, just as my Father promised. But stay here in the city until the Holy Spirit comes and fills you with power from heaven." New Living Translation (©2007)
then THIS:
John 13:14-17 - "Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet. I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you. Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him. Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them." New International Version
PLUS this:
1 Corinthians 15:24-28 - "Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For he “has put everything under his feet.”Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all." New International Version
aren't these verses so clear that there is a hierarchy between God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit themselves? That they're not one & the same like in a trinity? can someone debunk these verses?
mao ni ang part sa mystery of the holy trinity and yes naa jud btaw cla roles lain2 the father which is the creator, the son which is the savior, and the holy ghost which will give you wisdom ug uban pah.. 3 persona as one God according to RCC..
The Father...
We all know he's everything, He's God....
the Son....
John 4:10-13 obviously Jesus said He and the Father is One...
Matt. 4:7; Luke 4:12 - Jesus tells satan, "you shall not tempt the Lord your God" in reference to Himself.
Matt. 9:2; Mark 2:5; Luke 5:20; 7:48 - Jesus forgives sins. Only God can forgive sins.
and more.........
the Spirit....
Job 33:4 - "The Spirit of God made me and the breath of the Almighty has given me life." We know Only God is the creator of life.
Matt. 12:31; Luke 12:10 - Jesus says blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. Only God can be blasphemed.
John 4:24 - God is a spirit (the Holy Spirit) and they who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth. Only God is worshiped.
and more......
3 persona 1 God or 3 Gods and that's the Mystery of The Holy Trinity...![]()
Last edited by dartzed; 01-09-2013 at 04:57 PM.
Since inadvertently they've committed sins,
then they will go into the purgatory.
What is Purgatory?
you can say whatever you want sio, kay naa man pud kay kaugalingun nga salabutan sa mga butang2x..
ako as a Catholic Christian, i trust and place my faith in the process that the church declares for saint canonization
and it being the process God revealed to His church.
in the same way later generations of Christians believed in what the apostles said about Christ raising back to life.
i believe in that process in the same you believe in the Christian faith and its traditions..whether it has specific biblical references or not
Do you believe that there are different ways and approaches to evangelize?
med made them sio, how about the bible? diba mga tao raman pud ang gasulat?..
BUT as Christians we believe that the bible is God's word, written by men.
in the same way i believe that the processes declared in the Catholic Church esp with its apostolic succession
i believe and put my faith that though works of men but of divine influence.
if muingun ta kay abi binuhat sa tao dili reliable, then you cannot rely on anything
not even in your own POV and interpretation.and this kind of approach might even go towards the Bible(though written by men of God, but STILL men).
short answer sio, is i take it by faith.![]()
Last edited by noy; 01-09-2013 at 05:04 PM.
Kong ako imong pa istoryahon bro, after we die we die, no afterlife whatsoever...
but in an RCC point of view either they go to Purgatory or Limbo, i dont know anang limbo kong nitudlo paba ang church ana, but last time a priest told me nga kong di daw mabunyagan ang tawo adto na siya mag-istar nig kamatay niya, otherwise it's purgatory or go to this place where they burn and suffer forever in eternal fire or popularly called hell.
Last edited by Xian120; 01-09-2013 at 05:43 PM.
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