Atheism

[Jollibee]

Ok, since atheists dont know YET, the declaration of "there is no god" could not in any way be held as truth. If you stand by it, it stands to reason also that you are residing on confused ground. For how could you declare something as truth when you cannot prove its truthfulness? Ayaw ko og ingna FAITH pod ang nagtukmod nimo sa declaration "there is no god".

See.. there you are again, your assuming thats how atheist think... when you yourself is not an athiest.

You have a point about "I dont know yet"...BUT you are wrong on how I process then part of the "I dont know yet" answer...

Example ta ha... para kasabot ka... and this is how I think, and Im an athesit to your judeo-christian god... When it comes to how atheist think... MAYBE NAA GURO KOY CREDIBILITY GAMAY KAY NMO KAY ATHEIST KO IKAW DILI?... agreed?

Question: How come there is Dark Matter... What phenomon does it came to be?....

My answer: I dont know YET... but Ill let science figure it out for now....

what you though an atheist would think: "I dont know YET... maybe God created that created it from his words" <---- I can personally say THAT I DONT THINK LIKE THAT...

basing an answer of mine... Where is this confusion that you are talking about that atheist experience?...

And if you consider the declaration "there is no god" as partly true and partly false, unsa matawag nimo ana? Confused pare... it exposes your flawed reasoning that makes you consider the flawed declaration "there is no god".

Oh ok... I have a God... Its a "FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER" ... I cant prove that my GOD exiist BUT YOU HAVE NO PROOF THAT IT DOES NOT EXIST EITHER...

Think for it... Can you disprove that my GOD does not exist?... If not... its the same way as science cannot disprove your GOD...

but does that mean my "FLYING SPAHETTING MONSTER" really exist?... you would probably asnwer NO by now...

I hope now you understand that if science cant disprove your GOD it doesnt mean it exist... coz for now theres is no quantifiable or observable evidence that can be soley credit the existence of your GOD... just like my GOD "Flying Spaghetting Monster" too, I cant show evidence of it exist..

(thanks to richard dawkins for the flying spaghetti monster, its his GOD, and now i believe it too)


and please stop the use of your the words "Flawed Thinking" just to appear that theres authority in your words...

because if I ask you... If you are a man of reason...
"What is more Flawed thinking of the two stiuation?"

1) Being a skeptic and not believing on WHAT HE IS TOLD... but rather would ask for quantifiable or observable proof before we believe into anything...

2) Believing in something DEARLY without any proof that can be soley acquianted to it...

Im going reason to you that you dont even believe in my GOD "The Flying Spaghetti Monster" bcoz your reasoning woulndt allow you...

... and to think really, what is the difference between your GOD and my GOD... We both cant prove it, But we both cant DISPROVE it either...

[Jollibee]

hahahaha... salamat rcruman that you recognized me as "king of denial" hahahahaha... man, I am laughing at you big time!

So, do you have answers to my questions? Well, if he's all-powerful ma-spirit ug dili and can make wonders, miracles, magic, etc... etc... blah blah... he can do whatever he can! As you said "it's upto him." So, do you have answers or what? Call him brod, call him really hard. If he shows up to me in SPIRIT then I will believe you. Ikaw tawag kai ikaw mai tuo ug ginoo di man ko tuo nga naay ginoo kai atheist man ko di ba? Do you need crystal ball to call him? Telephone, cellphone, megaphone, microphone, Do you need "batlight" that says "god" to call him? we can arrange that. Provided he will appear, if not, hehehehe... you know what's next.

... brod

... ayaw hagita sa RCRMAN nga pagawas ang iya Ginoo ana niya KAY SAPOTON DYUD KAAU KO ANA IYA GINOO!

... may gud ana iya ginoo mo gawas man kng tawgun ni RCRUMAN... pero dili mo gawas sa mga little innocent childred, nga gi pang rape, abuse, startved to death, terminally deceased children whose being praying to him so hard and dearly...


... no wait... kng ingana diay na... hulata ko brod, kay incase pakita na iya ginoo... I WILL DO EVERYTHING IN MY MORTAL POWER TO KILL HIS GOD... He needs his ass kicked for for igoring those helpless people whos been trying to ask for his help... and ignoring most of them...

[Jollibee]

king of denial.
its just pride that keeps you holding to your belief.

You're keep on hiding on this statement "he actually exists" or "show me God or give me his email address".
How could God appear to you physically when He is spirit? or just a wide excuse for you to keep as an ATHEIST?

Peace!

... RCRMAN... just to let you know... I am a skeptic... I would believe in your GOD on the spot ... If you can show observable and/or quantifiable proof that can be solely explain to the existence of GOD...

... remember please the words... SOLELY EXPLAINED TO THE EXISTENCE..." SOLELY" is the word...

...if you do present it to me... ILL BE THANKING YOU FOR MAKING ME A BELIEVER...

as I said.. IM A SKEPTICS - and a real skeptic would love to be proven wrong

[Sinyalan]

^^^ hahaha...

Pakita gani, I'll SUE him for all he have!

[rcruman]

... RCRMAN... just to let you know... I am a skeptic... I would believe in your GOD on the spot ... If you can show observable and/or quantifiable proof that can be solely explain to the existence of GOD...

ok, first:
1. LIFE
2. LOVE (agape)

do you have measuring equipment or unit to measure that?

... remember please the words... SOLELY EXPLAINED TO THE EXISTENCE..." SOLELY" is the word...
...if you do present it to me... ILL BE THANKING YOU FOR MAKING ME A BELIEVER...
as I said.. IM A SKEPTICS - and a real skeptic would love to be proven wrong

bro its not in my hand to make you believe, Even Apostle Paul is against with the Church before but through God he is now a believer. Its God who can make you a believer.

Then about this one "and a real skeptic would love to be proven wrong" in what sense? numbers?
Bro God can't be proven by numbers but through His works.

Let me tell you or ask you would the size of planets in our solar system doesn't make sense if that is a big bang theory?

1. How could you explain why Jupiter is 1000 times larger than earth?
2. How could you explain that Earth is the third planet not the fourth planet?

Now if you can answer me that and connect it through big bang theory or Evolution then you win.

God created it and He is a wise and intelligent creator, just try to lessen the size of Jupiter and it would be chaos.
Just try to move earth to its location then we're all dead.

Naa ang Ginoo sa inyo atubangan wala lang mo kita kay inyo gipangita ang naa sa inyo hunahuna nga resulta sa inyo "think out of the box". Ang Ginoo dili pareha sa inyo hunahuna lahi ang Ginoo nga gusto ninyo makit-an physical, He's spirit and to see Him is through His works.

PEace!

Peace!

[Jollibee]

@RCRMAN..

LIFE and LOVE... as evidence...

Sorry dawg... evidence na sa ako GOD known as "Flying Spaghetti Monster"... I read it in OUR Bible that its said...

Pasta 1:11 - "I flying spaghetti monster made life and love... for I am love and i will share it to you"...

So whats your proof that your GOD has claims on LOVE and LIFE... and yet it clearly shows that in our bible my GOD claimed that he made love and life...

I hope you see why "the scientific method" is very important so we have to evaulate our beliefs and test/expirement them if they are true...

Then about this one "and a real skeptic would love to be proven wrong" in what sense? numbers?
Bro God can't be proven by numbers but through His works.

Let me tell you or ask you would the size of planets in our solar system doesn't make sense if that is a big bang theory?

1. How could you explain why Jupiter is 1000 times larger than earth?
2. How could you explain that Earth is the third planet not the fourth planet?

Now if you can answer me that and connect it through big bang theory or Evolution then you win.

God created it and He is a wise and intelligent creator, just try to lessen the size of Jupiter and it would be chaos.
Just try to move earth to its location then we're all dead.

Naa ang Ginoo sa inyo atubangan wala lang mo kita kay inyo gipangita ang naa sa inyo hunahuna nga resulta sa inyo "think out of the box". Ang Ginoo dili pareha sa inyo hunahuna lahi ang Ginoo nga gusto ninyo makit-an physical, He's spirit and to see Him is through His works.

HAIZZZZ... naa nsad na iya talent introduce ug mga questions for arguement.. wala pa gani ma human sa katapusan..

ONE ANSWER SA IMO QUESTION TANAN:

I DONT KNOW YET... BUT ILL LET SCIENCE FIGURE IT OUT.... COZ THEY HAVE THIS PROCESS CALLED "THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD"... AND FRANKLY RELIGION DOESNT HAVE LIKE THAT...

para kasabot ka anang "SCIENTIFIC METHOD" ha...

dara oh..

1. Define the question
2. Gather information and resources (observe)
3. Form hypothesis
4. Perform experiment and collect data
5. Analyze data
6. Interpret data and draw conclusions that serve as a starting point for new hypothesis
7. Publish results
8. Retest (frequently done by other scientists)

Before science believes into anything or give it merit... you have to run that... and you can probably figure out were "GOD" fails...

PS: If you leave God to make me a believer... Thats the same way of saying... "HAVE FAITH HE WILL MAKE YOU A BELIEVER"...

as you said... you wont make me a believer by just asking to have faith...

[munzter666]

@jollibee

pastafarian/spagnostic ka pala.hahaha
reminds me of AC.

RAMEN?

Ok, since atheists dont know YET, the declaration of "there is no god" could not in any way be held as truth. If you stand by it, it stands to reason also that you are residing on confused ground. For how could you declare something as truth when you cannot prove its truthfulness? Ayaw ko og ingna FAITH pod ang nagtukmod nimo sa declaration "there is no god".

atheist dont know yet, so its only rational to NOT assume there is one.

@rcruman

ok, first:
1. LIFE
2. LOVE (agape)

do you have measuring equipment or unit to measure that?

you forgot FAITH man, "god" exists in the realm of FAITH. how do you measure FAITH btw?(pls not the mustard seed again ok?)

[Ramini]

@Jollibee

Dli lagi na sya maibot sa iyang faith..nanggamot na na cya dha..his "evidence" of "God" is love, life and others
iyaha na nang gibutangan ug registered trademark nga ang iyahang ginoo ra ang author or ang cause anang mga butanga and ang iyahang ginoo ang gabuot nga mao jd na ang size sa Jupiter..or unsa pa nang mga bull$#t lisod i debate ug usa ka devout follower in any organized religion..

kabaw ka rcruman kng tangtangon lang nang biblya nmo then you're just nothing wla kai ma prove..dha ra jd tawn ka anang imohang libro nga producto sa usa ka conclave sa unang panahon..nya ingon dayon kag kai gilamdagan sa spirit sa ginoo..that is still to be argued and dli na sya ang final..if ingon ana ka concern ang imohang ginoo then why'd he allow nga naai mga divisions?..grabe imohang mga sweeping statements do! mkaulbo ug kaspa..don't ever think nga ang tanang tao nga wla nituo anang imohang ginoo kai bugo..pray to your god nga malamdagan ni silang mga tawhana..love man kaha niya iyang creation sugot lang sya nga naai mulihis sa dalan or maikog lang syang satanas nga wla na unyay iyaha..hahaha!!! wtf!

[Ramini]

mustard seed jd

[victor3]

See.. there you are again, your assuming thats how atheist think... when you yourself is not an athiest.

I dont have to to put a shit inside my nostrils just to prove how much it stinks...hehe kuha nimo ang logic?
Kinahanglan pa ba diay kong magpaka-tae as atheist para mahibaw-an unsay baho sa atheist Mr. Jolly-be-not-fallacious?

Nag base ra ko sa inyong claim "there is no god" in getting the idea of atheism. Since you held "there is no god" as universal truth, the pangutana is unsa ka tinuod inyong truth nga wala man gani kay absolutong pruweba sa ka-truth sa maong deklarasyon, hehe

Dawata na lang nga ang inyong claim "there is no god" is based only on FAITH and speculative philosophy just like any other religion. Kay kun dili aw, sobra ka pa sa CONCEITED ana, ang terminong imong gi-label sa mga nag-relihiyon. And unsa gani nang mag label sa iyang kaugalingon ngadto sa lain? Ipokrito and powerpoint projector (or simply SINYALANG ATHEIST)

You have a point about "I dont know yet"...BUT you are wrong on how I process then part of the "I dont know yet" answer...

how you process? haha...mag depende diay ang rason sa imong processing nga simplang naman gani sa sinugdan pa. Nanaway sa concept of FAITH nga udtro pod diayng nagbase sa FAITH.

Example ta ha... para kasabot ka... and this is how I think, and Im an athesit to your judeo-christian god... When it comes to how atheist think... MAYBE NAA GURO KOY CREDIBILITY GAMAY KAY NMO KAY ATHEIST KO IKAW DILI?... agreed?

Atheist to my judeo-christian god, buot ba pasabot ana dili ka atheist sa mangyan and badjao gods? Unsay credibility nimo Mr. Jolly-be-not-be-so-egocentric nga imong assessment sa imo kaugalingon as atheist is purely subjective man kaayo. Credibility-credibility ka uroy.

Question: How come there is Dark Matter... What phenomon does it came to be?....

My answer: I dont know YET... but Ill let science figure it out for now....

Makatawa ko nga mauwaw sa imong surambaw nga analogy da. Tan-awa ra ang pangutana how come "there is Dark Matter?", it affirms Mr. Jolly-be-not-so-simpleton the existence of dark matter phenomenon or to be exact epiphenomenon. And if you answer "I dont know yet", the affirmation of such existence remains undisputed.

Unsaon nimo pag-relate ana sa "there is no god", but your stand is "i dont know yet". Nag declare ka og butang nga wala kay pruweba, kun wa ka malibog ana.

what you though an atheist would think: "I dont know YET... maybe God created that created it from his words" <---- I can personally say THAT I DONT THINK LIKE THAT...

basing an answer of mine... Where is this confusion that you are talking about that atheist experience?...

Kay miingon man ka nga "I DONT KNOW YET" meaning wala kay pruweba nga magpamatuod sa katinuod sa imong "there is no god". It cannot be held a truth. But you claimed it to be a TRUTH, unsa ang basis? FAITH. Since you abhor those who are basing on FAITH but you utilized the same in your own, confused ka pre. Murag nakainom og tuba nga gisagolan og diatabs.

Oh ok... I have a God... Its a "FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER" ... I cant prove that my GOD exiist BUT YOU HAVE NO PROOF THAT IT DOES NOT EXIST EITHER...

Think for it... Can you disprove that my GOD does not exist?... If not... its the same way as science cannot disprove your GOD...but does that mean my "FLYING SPAHETTING MONSTER" really exist?... you would probably asnwer NO by now...

But we're not debating on God as Flying Spaghetti Monster, smart arse. Spit it out.

I hope now you understand that if science cant disprove your GOD it doesnt mean it exist... coz for now theres is no quantifiable or observable evidence that can be soley credit the existence of your GOD... just like my GOD "Flying Spaghetting Monster" too, I cant show evidence of it exist..

(thanks to richard dawkins for the flying spaghetti monster, its his GOD, and now i believe it too)


and please stop the use of your the words "Flawed Thinking" just to appear that theres authority in your words...

because if I ask you... If you are a man of reason...
"What is more Flawed thinking of the two stiuation?"

1) Being a skeptic and not believing on WHAT HE IS TOLD... but rather would ask for quantifiable or observable proof before we believe into anything...

2) Believing in something DEARLY without any proof that can be soley acquianted to it...

Im going reason to you that you dont even believe in my GOD "The Flying Spaghetti Monster" bcoz your reasoning woulndt allow you...

... and to think really, what is the difference between your GOD and my GOD... We both cant prove it, But we both cant DISPROVE it either...

Ok, you're too scholarly, career man hehe....so what happened to your "THERE IS NO GOD" kun mao na? Pareha ra ta, nag base sa FAITH or speculation. Pero ang nakapait, mura mog gipanuhot sa ka hambugero on denying something you cant even deny on rational terms...*kulihad SINYALAN *kulihad