Discussion on the Christ Jesus.

[rcruman]

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Trinity is coined to established that the God head although 3 is one GOD. and besides there is no such word that refers to the Triune GOD of the Bible as "Godhead" either.

who coined it? (sakto ba ako question).

Peace!

[IdontCare]

mao lagi og ako bitaw stand kay walay TRINITY sa bible.
Trinity means equal power but GOd the Father is Greater than Christ so dili na equal.
Og si Jesus wala kahibalo kung kanus-a siya mubalik ang Dios Amahan ra ang kahibalo.
Murag nag mix na gyud imo statement bro be objective og ayaw himo statement sa usa ka forumer nya himuon nimog issue. Asa gud sa ako post nga nituo ko sa HOLY TRINITY?

Peace!

can i discuss this w/ you rc?

I believe nga naay trinity sa bible.

where in the bible is that stated nga ang trinity means equal power?
then unsa pasabot nimo aning power? function? or power as in "zip zap boom"?

who coined it? (sakto ba ako question).

Peace!

Ang mga Spiritual fathers.

[geoseph]

who coined it? (sakto ba ako question).

Peace!

Okay ra pagka-phrase imong question, bai.

I hope makatabang ni. Pwede i-reference sa wikipedia. To quote:

The first recorded use of the word "Trinity" in Christian theology was in about AD 180 by Theophilus of Antioch who used it, however, to refer to a "triad" of three days: the first three days of Creation, which he then compared to "God, his Word, and his Wisdom." He compared the fourth day to humanity, as a needy recipient of the first three, forming a tetrad. The creations in the fourth, fifth, and sixth days are said to intimate both righteous and unrighteous members of humanity. God rested in the seventh day, the Sabbath.

Tertullian, a Latin theologian who wrote in the early third century, is credited with using the words "Trinity" and "person" to explain that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit were "one in essence— not one in Person."

About a century later, in AD 325, the Council of Nicea established the doctrine of the Trinity as orthodoxy and adopted the Nicene Creed that described Christ as "God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made,being of one substance (homoousios) with the Father."

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The Council of Nicaea was reluctant to adopt language not found in Scripture, and ultimately did so only after Arius showed how all strictly biblical language could also be interpreted to support his belief that there was a time when the Son did not exist. In adopting non-biblical language, the council's intent was to preserve what they thought the Church had always believed: that the Son is fully God, coeternal with God the Father and God the Holy Spirit.

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The Trinitarian view has been affirmed as an article of faith by the Nicene (325/381) and Athanasian creeds (circa 500), which attempted to standardize belief in the face of disagreements on the subject. These creeds were formulated and ratified by the Church of the third and fourth centuries in reaction to heterodox theologies concerning the Trinity and/or Christ. The Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed, revised in 381 by the second of these councils, is professed by the Eastern Orthodox Church and, with one addition (Filioque clause), the Roman Catholic Church, and has been retained in some form in the Anglican Communion and most Protestant denominations.

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Even now, ecumenical dialogue between Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Roman Catholic, the Assyrian Church of the East, Anglican and Trinitarian Protestants, seeks an expression of Trinitarian and Christological doctrine which will overcome the extremely subtle differences that have largely contributed to dividing them into separate communities. The doctrine of the Trinity is therefore symbolic, somewhat paradoxically, of both division and unity.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity]

[dartzed]

can i discuss this w/ you rc?

I believe nga naay trinity sa bible.

where in the bible is that stated nga ang trinity means equal power?
then unsa pasabot nimo aning power? function? or power as in "zip zap boom"?

Ang mga Spiritual fathers.

d lagi na cya mutuo ug trinity ky 3 ra nga number iya nbaw.an wa sad na cya kaila unsa ang "tri" na prefix for triune... kabantay ka pariha ra cla trinity = 3 = truine?...pgka LOL...


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[rcruman]

can i discuss this w/ you rc?
I believe nga naay trinity sa bible.

what verse?

where in the bible is that stated nga ang trinity means equal power?
then unsa pasabot nimo aning power? function? or power as in "zip zap boom"?

ngano pangutan-on man ko nimo ani nga dili man gani ko tuog trinity nya pangutan-on ko nimog "where in the bible is that stated nga ang trinity means equal power", it doesn't make sense.

The people defined the TRINITY that they have equal power but its not what Christ said.
Christ said that "Father is greater than I".

I think you should know my stand first before asking question which is not my stand and Its my issue to people who believed in trinity that they don't have equal power.

Ang mga Spiritual fathers.

Who are they? can you name one?

Peace!

[rcruman]

d lagi na cya mutuo ug trinity ky 3 ra nga number iya nbaw.an wa sad na cya kaila unsa ang "tri" na prefix for triune... kabantay ka pariha ra cla trinity = 3 = truine?...pgka LOL...
hehehe

really? asa sa bible ang TRIUNE?

kana lang sa kay basin masuperLOL na ka.

Peace!

[dartzed]

really? asa sa bible ang TRIUNE?

kana lang sa kay basin masuperLOL na ka.

Peace!

i know d ka mutuo triune nor trinity;
cge 3.....

bible to bible; verse to verse jud dai...
nice sad na dah...

hehehe

peace sad..

[isaac95]

You may refer this:



I. THE DOGMA OF THE TRINITY


The Trinity is the term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion -- the truth that in the unity of the Godhead there are Three Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, these Three Persons being truly distinct one from another.

Thus, in the words of the Athanasian Creed: "the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God." In this Trinity of Persons the Son is begotten of the Father by an eternal generation, and the Holy Spirit proceeds by an eternal procession from the Father and the Son. Yet, notwithstanding this difference as to origin, the Persons are co-eternal and co-equal: all alike are uncreated and omnipotent. This, the Church teaches, is the revelation regarding God's nature which Jesus Christ, the Son of God, came upon earth to deliver to the world: and which she proposes to man as the foundation of her whole dogmatic system.

In Scripture there is as yet no single term by which the Three Divine Persons are denoted together. The word trias (of which the Latin trinitas is a translation) is first found in Theophilus of Antioch about A.D. 180. He speaks of "the Trinity of God [the Father], His Word and His Wisdom ("Ad. Autol.", II, 15). The term may, of course, have been in use before his time. Afterwards it appears in its Latin form of trinitas in Tertullian ("De pud." c. xxi). In the next century the word is in general use. It is found in many passages of Origen ("In Ps. xvii", 15). The first creed in which it appears is that of Origen's pupil, Gregory Thaumaturgus. In his Ekthesis tes pisteos composed between 260 and 270, he writes:


There is therefore nothing created, nothing subject to another in the Trinity: nor is there anything that has been added as though it once had not existed, but had entered afterwards: therefore the Father has never been without the Son, nor the Son without the Spirit: and this same Trinity is immutable and unalterable forever (P. G., X, 986).
It is manifest that a dogma so mysterious presupposes a Divine revelation. When the fact of revelation, understood in its full sense as the speech of God to man, is no longer admitted, the rejection of the doctrine follows as a necessary consequence. For this reason it has no place in the Liberal Protestantism of today. The writers of this school contend that the doctrine of the Trinity, as professed by the Church, is not contained in the New Testament, but that it was first formulated in the second century and received final approbation in the fourth, as the result of the Arian and Macedonian controversies. In view of this assertion it is necessary to consider in some detail the evidence afforded by Holy Scripture. Attempts have been made recently to apply the more extreme theories of comparative religion to the doctrine of the Trinity, and to account for it by an imaginary law of nature compelling men to group the objects of their worship in threes. It seems needless to give more than a reference to these extravagant views, which serious thinkers of every school reject as destitute of foundation.

[Mr.Ho_chia]

thanks isaac95

[maddox]

mga bro! pwede mangutana? i grew up in a Catholic school pero wala gyud gihapon naklaro sa ako kung unsa gyud meaning sa Trinity. nagkalain-lain man gud ang explanation.

does this dogma mean that God the father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are united in purpose and as 'one personage' as in one body and not three separate personages / bodies? or does it mean three personages or three separate bodies/personages but 'one in purpose'?

some people from the Catholic church say that they're one personage, while others say they're three separate personages. does anyone here know kung unsa gyud ang doctrine ani perhaps from Vatican gyud or maybe an article or link that has the authority to explain this.

Thanks!