Scripture and Tradition

[carboloy]

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he teaching authority of the Catholic Church, called the Magisterium, teaches only from Tradition and Scripture.


JOHN 8:31 To the Jews who had believed him, JESUS SAID, "IF YOU HOLD TO MY TEACHING, you are really my disciples.

JOHN 8:31 32Then you will know THE TRUTH, and the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE." shocked


asa nakasuwat ang teachings ni Jesus Christ sa Biblia o Cathecism of the Catholic Church.

hala cge tubag na.

seven segment asa na bay tubag na.

asa nakasuwat ang teachings ni Jesus Christ sa Biblia o Cathecism of the Catholic Church.?

a. biblia b. cathecism of the catholic church.

[seven_segment]

he teaching authority of the Catholic Church, called the Magisterium, teaches only from Tradition and Scripture.


JOHN 8:31 To the Jews who had believed him, JESUS SAID, "IF YOU HOLD TO MY TEACHING, you are really my disciples.

JOHN 8:31 32Then you will know THE TRUTH, and the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE." shocked


asa nakasuwat ang teachings ni Jesus Christ sa Biblia o Cathecism of the Catholic Church.

hala cge tubag na.

seven segment asa na bay tubag na.

asa nakasuwat ang teachings ni Jesus Christ sa Biblia o Cathecism of the Catholic Church.?

a. biblia b. cathecism of the catholic church.

bai...the Bible is the written word...

we have the ECF who help us understand the Bible through the help of the Holy Spirit...the CCC is also our guide which comes from the Bible...not just the context of the Bible but the traditions of the Church...in which it is continous...as time goes...and so the teachings...stays the same but explanations became more understandable...

hibong langtah you're really mad about the CCC...hehehe...

early Church fathers have started the CCC...wala pa si Luther...wala pa ang protestantism...

[tripwire]

Can someone from Roman Catholic explain what Apostolic Tradition that we ought to follow.

Brother... I can't speak for all Catholics but let me offer this information(s) [links provided]

1... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_Tradition
2... http://www.bombaxo.com/hippolytus.html
3... http://www.earlychurch.org.uk/hippolytus.php
4... http://kevinburt.wordpress.com/2007/...st-hippolytus/

Happy reading.

[carboloy]

bai...the Bible is the written word...

we have the ECF who help us understand the Bible through the help of the Holy Spirit...the CCC is also our guide which comes from the Bible...not just the context of the Bible but the traditions of the Church...in which it is continous...as time goes...and so the teachings...stays the same but explanations became more understandable...

hibong langtah you're really mad about the CCC...hehehe...

early Church fathers have started the CCC...wala pa si Luther...wala pa ang protestantism...

bai...the Bible is the written word...

we have the ECF who help us understand the Bible through the help of the Holy Spirit...the CCC is also our guide which comes from the Bible...not just the context of the Bible but the traditions of the Church...in which it is continous...as time goes...and so the teachings...stays the same but explanations became more understandable...

hibong langtah you're really mad about the CCC...hehehe...

early Church fathers have started the CCC...wala pa si Luther...wala pa ang protestantism...

cge lusot gyud bay but still you did not answer my question

he teaching authority of the Catholic Church, called the Magisterium, teaches only from Tradition and Scripture.


JOHN 8:31 To the Jews who had believed him, JESUS SAID, "IF YOU HOLD TO MY TEACHING, you are really my disciples.

JOHN 8:31 32Then you will know THE TRUTH, and the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE." shocked

seven segment asa na bay tubag na.

asa nakasuwat ang teachings ni Jesus Christ sa Biblia o Cathecism of the Catholic Church.?

a. biblia b. cathecism of the catholic church.

a or b ra bay pili lang ka sa duha hehehehheheh

[amingb]

Brother... I can't speak for all Catholics but let me offer this information(s) [links provided]

1... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostolic_Tradition
2... http://www.bombaxo.com/hippolytus.html
3... http://www.earlychurch.org.uk/hippolytus.php
4... http://kevinburt.wordpress.com/2007/...st-hippolytus/

Happy reading.

Salamat bro, naka read nako ana . but sad to say kang st, hippolytus wala na gi adopt tanan sa Roman Catholic .. ang RC Cathecism maoy gi adopt nila nga doctrine nga ma consider daw nga apostolic tradition tungod sa systema sa Vatican nga apostolic succession. RC Cathecism is considered daw nga Apostolic Tradition, which i dont agree and most non RC denomination.

[amingb]

well its biblical...

problem is you're looing for it literally...

like asa sa Bible...directly says...ask for the intercession of St Augustine?

brod dili jud na makit-an...pero...communion of saints...naa...

and we believe Augustine of Hippo was saint...

wa man siguro gani prob...if we believe you're a saint...therefore I could ask for you to please pray for me...

ing-ana gud...

were you able to experience and witnessed an exorcism? unsa inyo pamaagi?

naa biya na sa bible...the apostkes driving out demons in the name of God...in the name of Jesus Christ...

Maybe some but not all are written in the Bible ... mao bitaw na nga Scripture and Tradition ang doctrine gi adopt sa Vatican mao cguro nang RC cathecism, basaha tong post ni brownpose sa first page.

[amingb]

bai...the Bible is the written word...

we have the ECF who help us understand the Bible through the help of the Holy Spirit...the CCC is also our guide which comes from the Bible...not just the context of the Bible but the traditions of the Church...in which it is continous...as time goes...and so the teachings...stays the same but explanations became more understandable...

hibong langtah you're really mad about the CCC...hehehe...

early Church fathers have started the CCC...wala pa si Luther...wala pa ang protestantism...

bro para naka its not a matter ug kinsa naka una or naulahi and problema naa sa Doctrina. Mga early fathers lahi na ang doctrina ana nila compare sa Vatican. Cla pa gani nag martyr ana nila.

[amico]

the teaching authority of the Catholic Church, called the Magisterium, teaches only from Tradition and Scripture.


JOHN 8:31 To the Jews who had believed him, JESUS SAID, "IF YOU HOLD TO MY TEACHING, you are really my disciples.

JOHN 8:31 32Then you will know THE TRUTH, and the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE." shocked


asa nakasuwat ang teachings ni Jesus Christ sa Biblia o Cathecism of the Catholic Church.

hala cge tubag na.

And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. - Matthew 16:19

Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. - 2 Thessalonians 2:15

But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. - 1 Timothy 3:15

it didn't say that the scripture is the foundation and pillar of truth. rather it says the church, and the church is a hierarchy whose teaching authority is handed down "thru the laying of hands of the presbytery". presbyters and elders who were given the power to loose and bind. and that very sentence to the jews simply mean that those people who were given such authority are God's mouthpiece on earth. the power handed to them is no ordinary power because it gave them the ability to freely interpret anything through the guidance of the "holy" spirit.

if you want to find evidence of a hierarchy. try to read acts and timothy. and even judas had to be replaced immediately because the book says:

For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take. - Acts 1:20

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laying_on_of_hands

[amingb]

And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. - Matthew 16:19

Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. - 2 Thessalonians 2:15

But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. - 1 Timothy 3:15

it didn't say that the scripture is the foundation and pillar of truth. rather it says the church, and the church is a hierarchy whose teaching authority is handed down "thru the laying of hands of the presbytery". presbyters and elders who were given the power to loose and bind. and that very sentence to the jews simply mean that those people who were given such authority are God's mouthpiece on earth. the power handed to them is no ordinary power because it gave them the ability to freely interpret anything through the guidance of the "holy" spirit.

if you want to find evidence of a hierarchy. try to read acts and timothy. and even judas had to be replaced immediately because the book says:

For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take. - Acts 1:20

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laying_on_of_hands

Wa may kaso nang Tradition basta Biblical because Scripture is a Tradition ... please show us the other Tradition nga mo insist mo nga authorize aside from the scripture.

I choose clearly on the Scripture because it is written dili na hearsay.

[amico]

^^ asa man pud nahasuwat na kinahanglan ra gyud na ang tanan tradition mahasuwat o matud pa nimo "biblical"?!? mao bitaw gitagaan silag authority to loose and bind kay mao gyud ang tuyu ni hesus na kahibao siya na wala na gani sya maggubot gyud kung di niya hatagan anang authority na muinterpret para niya ang iya mga pinili.

mao bitaw giingon pud "by word of mouth or by epistles". klaro man tingali nang words diha. mao bitaw wala maapil sa scripture kay "by word of mouth" man. simple ra man tingali na na english. grabe na gyud kung di mo kasabot. siguro tungod na sa inyo mga biased convictions kay ako as an agnostic ug non-christian klaro kaayo nang nakasuwat diha. mao bitaw wala sya mahasuwat kay "by word of mouth" ug dili "by epistle" apan unsaon ta man nga ingon man sya "hold on to the traditions" pasabot wa na gyud moy mabuhat kung ingon sa simbahan na kana sila legitimate traditions ug kana pinaagi sa ila authority magsubay gyud mo. inig ingon nila na legitimate tradition ni. di gyud mo kabalibad kay naa man sila teaching authority. naa man sila power to loose and bind.