Top 10 reasons to use for VISTA ( updated )

[EarlZ]

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so what you reffered as unusable RAM in 32 bit OS if you have 4 gigs is being used by the system?


So therefore
vista 32 can actually detect 4 gigs of ram.

Detection isnt the problem you

you just FAIL in trying so hard.

Happy New Year Mr. Ang

[brown_dog]

Detection isnt the problem you

you just FAIL in trying so hard.

Happy New Year Mr. Ang

You said that detection is not the problem I totally agree.
the bottom line is 32 bit os can detect or use 4 gigs of RAM.

SO what if they are used by the hardware whatever thing that is allocated. In Microsoft windows website it clearly states that windows vista 32bit can use upto 4 gigs of RAM. When you're talking about more than 4 gigs then at thats time 32bit os cannot detect or use more than 4 gigs.

many people are using 64bit not because it can detecect or use 4gigs of RAM its because it has improvements in speed, and some if not all uses it when they have more than 4 gigs. Even the 64 bit OS uses more RAM compered to the 32 bit OS in a 4 gig system. So clearly the 64 bits also uses hardware allocation same as the 32bit uses. So its all the same if you have 4gigs in a 32bit or 64 bit file system.

Clearly you are mistaken when you say yes and no when a 32 bit can use the full gigs of RAM. I mean the no part.

I didn't know this was a chat room. Oh I forgot people who don't have anything to do treat this forum as a chat room. SPecialy spoiled brat like you.
So keep on researching bub or you might wanna win the retard college student of the year.

[EarlZ]

Then provide us the technical documents showing and proving that vista 32bit can infact use and allocate 4.0GB of ram...
OMG , trying so hard with the personal attacks w/c also fails, again bro dont try so hard we know your limits

[vern]

earlz, we know what happens when we do assume, you know full well what happens. Unfortunately for you, I did not assume anything, I merely said that it's funny what you imply in the same post. Please tell me where I assumed anything. We know what happens when we assume. We know what happens when we are a smartass when we don't understand simple English.

Please stop trying to point people out as if they were wrong, don't try to hide behind "you personally attacked me" with your conversation with brown_dog when you are the one instigating it in this thread and many others. I have read your posts at iSTORYA for a long time, humble yourself before someone embarrasses you and your so-called tech prowess. Everyone can read articles on the interwebs and copy/paste like you. Don't try so hard, we know your limits.

[eax]

No more piracy.

[IT]

Vista support 4GB, but part of it are used for IO, memory mapped devices and so on. So if you are lucky, you have 3.5GB free (I have), but most people just have about 3GB.
That also one reason why many systems are shipped with only 3GB.

I HAVE MSI MOBO IT CAN DETECT 4 GB FROM BIOS & SYS.

[INFRACTION]

huwat ra ko kung grabeh na kaau ka uso ang vista

[EarlZ]

earlz, we know what happens when we do assume, you know full well what happens. Unfortunately for you, I did not assume anything, I merely said that it's funny what you imply in the same post. Please tell me where I assumed anything. We know what happens when we assume. We know what happens when we are a smartass when we don't understand simple English.

heh, kinda funny that you mention 4GB and up of RAM when 32bit Vista doesn't even support that much RAM, no 32bit OS does.

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Please stop trying to point people out as if they were wrong, don't try to hide behind "you personally attacked me" with your conversation with brown_dog when you are the one instigating it in this thread and many others. I have read your posts at iSTORYA for a long time, humble yourself before someone embarrasses you and your so-called tech prowess. Everyone can read articles on the interwebs and copy/paste like you. Don't try so hard, we know your limits.

Looks like a problem with your PC, not Vista. Error ... user not compatible with Vista.

People always say crap about Vista when their system can't handle it. THAT IS NOT VISTA's fault. Also, memory that isn't used is wasted memory. ALL memory should be used all the time. Vista will always use up all your memory if you have superfetch enabled, which you should. Vista fills all your memory with the most frequently used programs. If memory is needed for programs you don't use as much, Vista simply clears memory for it. In any case, with your system specs, I wouldn't even bother installing Vista.

I have an Ultimate license for Vista, and it was the best Windows experience I've had. I don't use Vista anymore, but that isn't anything against Vista, Linux was just a better development environment for me.

no 32bit OS does.

Feel free to correct me on this provided you show the proper technical documents.

Happy New Year :mrgreen:[br]Posted on: January 03, 2008, 12:28:04 PM_________________________________________________

You said that detection is not the problem I totally agree.
the bottom line is 32 bit os can detect or use 4 gigs of RAM.

SO what if they are used by the hardware whatever thing that is allocated. In Microsoft windows website it clearly states that windows vista 32bit can use upto 4 gigs of RAM. When you're talking about more than 4 gigs then at thats time 32bit os cannot detect or use more than 4 gigs.

many people are using 64bit not because it can detecect or use 4gigs of RAM its because it has improvements in speed, and some if not all uses it when they have more than 4 gigs. Even the 64 bit OS uses more RAM compered to the 32 bit OS in a 4 gig system. So clearly the 64 bits also uses hardware allocation same as the 32bit uses. So its all the same if you have 4gigs in a 32bit or 64 bit file system.

Clearly you are mistaken when you say yes and no when a 32 bit can use the full gigs of RAM. I mean the no part.

I didn't know this was a chat room. Oh I forgot people who don't have anything to do treat this forum as a chat room. SPecialy spoiled brat like you.
So keep on researching bub or you might wanna win the retard college student of the year.

Edited after 6 hours, and your reply has changed a bit after reading about PAE hacks and 32bit limitations i see

SO what if they are used by the hardware whatever thing that is allocated. In Microsoft windows website it clearly states that windows vista 32bit can use upto 4 gigs of RAM. When you're talking about more than 4 gigs then at thats time 32bit os cannot detect or use more than 4 gigs.

Do you understand what "upto" means, specifically the marketing meaning & use of "upto"

many people are using 64bit not because it can detecect or use 4gigs of RAM its because it has improvements in speed,

A lot of forum information and people * I * know use 64bit for that reason (more usable ram ), followed by the performance boost on some specific application ( cad renderings and ect )

and some if not all uses it when they have more than 4 gigs.

Ok, you said people dont use 64bit O.S. just because of having 4gb+ ram, now you say that they use it when they have more than 4gb.. stop eating what you just said..

Even the 64 bit OS uses more RAM compered to the 32 bit OS in a 4 gig system.

Yes it may on some applications compared to its 32bit counter part, but that ram is not wasted.

So clearly the 64 bits also uses hardware allocation same as the 32bit uses. So its all the same if you have 4gigs in a 32bit or 64 bit file system.

Regardless of the bitrates, the O.S. will allocate memory space for the hardware and it removes that allocated space on the MAX total usable ram.. hence not user usable

EDIT:
Changed WPE to PAE, all this time my mind was thinking about Windows Packet Editor instead of Physical Address Extension

[cold_fusion]

2^32 is 4.2 trillion.
So a 32bit machine is only capable of address 4.2Gbyte of RAM.
So 4.2Gbyte is the maximum RAM you could address in a 32bit Pentium.

Some server software have AWE (address windowing extension) and able to accept more ram but 4.2Gbyte is only accessible per program/thread.
Vista may support this function. But for normal use (not servers), adding more than 4Gb RAM has very little effect.

[djereza]

hmmm.....good i'm learning on this thread..keep it coming guys.