Do you believed the Big Bang and evolution theory?

[MrBiddle]

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I believe the dinousaurs coexisted with man. And that they were killed by the Ice Age. Not by Shrek or The Incredibles.

[zengatsu]

science can\'t explain evreything about our origins even the genesis contradicted itself when it said that adam and eve was the first man and woman on earth..but how come when they got out of the garden they saw a city i think..i could be wrong you know..hehehe.

Well, the first mention of the word \"city\" is in Gen 4:17 and it was built by Cain for his son Enoch (Henoch). Adam and Eve found no city when they were evicted from the Garden of Eden. Therefore, there is no contradiction.

but the big bang theory is very logical..since they have strong evidence that all the galaxies are moving away from each other which suggests that at one point in time they where close to one another. Even in very small scale experiments accelirating particles and smashing them with each other produces an exposion in an atomic scale and produces matter seems to appear out of nothing after the explosion.hmmmmm..

Intriguing, where did you read about this atomic scale explosion producing matter out of nowhere, anyway?

Pax.

hahahaha..familiar ni..nakabasa ko ani..angels ang demons!!! matter ug antimatter

[zengatsu]

I believe the dinousaurs coexisted with man. And that they were killed by the Ice Age. Not by Shrek or The Incredibles.

if dinosaurs co existed with man..how come wala jud maski usa lang ka fossil sa tao nga nakit an nga as old as any dinosaur fossil nga nakit an?

[yen]

Hmm... I think I'll just go with the middle ground.Â* God created the universe and he may have used something like the Big Bang to do it.

It also works with Darwin's Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection.Â* God could be a programmer and engineer too.Â* It would make sense to want to create something that would evolve (and improve itself) by itself, rather than it having to wait for you to create/improve it.

[HoundedbyHeaven]

Hmm... I think I\\\'ll just go with the middle ground. God created the universe and he may have used something like the Big Bang to do it.

I find no contradiction with the Big Bang Theory and the creation account of Genesis...unless you interpret the very first verse as a kind of prologue or introduction to the very first chapter of the Bible.

It also works with Darwin\'s Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection. God could be a programmer and engineer too.

Yes, I can imagine God to have use gradual evolution. I mean what\'s stopping Him anyway?

However, recent discoveries have led many scientists to question the validity of Darwinian evolutionary theory. One of the most crippling discoveries is the lack of consistency in the fossil record. Because of these discoveries, a growing number of scientists, largely ignored, repressed and caricatured by the media, have put forward an alternative hypothesis to explain the origin of life-- Intelligent Design.

It would make sense to want to create something that would evolve by itself, rather than it having to wait for you to create it.

I find this rather strange, why would evolving things be more sensible that instantly created things?

Shalom.

[yen]

Well.Â* God didn't just create one thing, he created a lot of things, which in turn would either work together or compete for the same resources.

Maybe he wanted to see how this design would turn out or how that design would work out.Â* If so, in each design, he could have added in the capacity to improve/alter/and even go back to a previous design.Â* It's like one design has the capacity to be more than just one design.Â* Meaning that his creations are forever changing and evolving, not just sticking with one design.

According to an article I once read about DNA, there's a lot of genes which appear to be just information, like memory in a computer.Â* It's as if our DNA stores previous designs, like a back-up.

I'll see if I can look up that article, and then post it here.

[HoundedbyHeaven]

Well. God didn't just create one thing, he created a lot of things, which in turn would either work together or compete for the same resources.

Maybe he wanted to see how this design would turn out or how that design would work out. If so, in each design, he could have added in the capacity to improve/alter/and even go back to a previous design. It's like one design has the capacity to be more than just one design. Meaning that his creations are forever changing and evolving, not just sticking with one design.

If it was man doing that, I could understand. But God? That is disturbing. I mean "to see how this design would turn out or how that design would work out", seems to imply a lack of absolute knowledge and control in God over the entire process of creation and its results, don't you think? It looks as if God is still learning, where's the omniscience? I thought nothing is unpredictible to God?

Shalom.

[MrBiddle]

Yes, I can imagine God to have use gradual evolution. I mean what\'s stopping Him anyway?

However, recent discoveries have led many scientists to question the validity of Darwinian evolutionary theory. One of the most crippling discoveries is the lack of consistency in the fossil record. Because of these discoveries, a growing number of scientists, largely ignored, repressed and caricatured by the media, have put forward an alternative hypothesis to explain the origin of life-- Intelligent Design.

Just something to think about: if the homo sapiens weren't fully developed yet, did the ancestors have a "soul?"

If so what makes our species any different from the homo erectus, did those species not have a "soul"?

No, I'm no aetheist but I wonder what is the Catholic teaching on this matter...

That is in the premise of evolution being a fact... although I've heard of a missing link between the homo erectus and the homo sapiens that is if I got the names of the species right.

[MrBiddle]

if dinosaurs co existed with man..how come wala jud maski usa lang ka fossil sa tao nga nakit an nga as old as any dinosaur fossil nga nakit an?

OT: Naa man.

[yen]

Oh. Â*I don't mean to question God's omniscience. Â*^^

It's that... it's more complicated to create something that can evolve/change/improve on its own than something that is just as is (no change).

Sometimes I think that God wanted to see how his creations could stand up against each other.

That's just my opinion. Â*=) Â*I respect science and its accomplishments and I also believe in God (or at the very least want to believe in God) despite that a lot of times - science and religion are at each other's throats.

Here's the article I mentioned:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junk_DNA

By the way, I think science and religion can get along quite fine. =) Isaac Newton, for example, was a devout believer in God (in fact, he was very devout). Not sure about Albert Einstein, but he was such a nice and humble person. Don't know much about Darwin though.