can people trace who posted/email?

[medtantda]

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any voice data can be heard and can be traced even you throw away your sim card, once the voice is captured it can be dissected and put into patterns and later use for investigation purposes.

the only way to avoid this is by scrambling your voice patterns.

for demo Oreka: Audio streams recording and retrieval
you can also play cain and abel.

[drwtsn32]

perfect! bro.. Yes that's true!

OT:

...too short and very simple question na "how?" but I can answer you on detailed the way to help you out understand the fact about the voice or let's go straight to the point "a caller", suspect ang caller for example. As what you have seen in most of the movies that this is possible, however, i understand that you want me to justify. Will, we are in the world of phoning technology since voice man ang imong pangutana. In fact, kung nakabalo ka na many of the dialing and numbering conventions - dialing "0" for the Operator, dialing "1" for Long Distance, dialing "011" for international, and no area codes or telephone numbers starting with "0" or "1" - directly resulted from the way these switches were designed and wired.

FYI, the telephone network was a hierarchical (5-level) network such as, class 1 (regional center), class 2 (sectional center), class 3 (primary center), class 4 (toll center), and class 5 (local exchange).

So tracing a call in an all electro-mechanical network would literally require working backward from the receiving telephone line, to either the originating line (if the call originated in the same Class 5 office) or to the incoming trunk line, etc., etc. But it wasn't "digit by digit." It would be analagous to following a piece of string to its point of origin, then making a note of the telephone number associated with the tin can the string is tied to, kung mulabang na siya from site to site, ug ara na magsugod ug intercept ang signal thru wireless comm, by means of gps technology., So, it's a matter of Provider to Provider.

Digital switching made billing and services like Caller ID a function of software, not hardware, so tracing a call in an extended service set (ESS) network is much simpler. But steppers and crossbars remained in service well into the 1980s, and many were only replaced because the state Public Service Commission required it.

As to any differences between wireline and wireless: let's ignore the radio-based IMTS and talk about AMPS and digital (GSM, TDMA, CDMA). All of these systems were based on digital switching fabric, and all calls were billed (so calling party number was automatically captured), so tracing a call would have been relatively simple.

One additional distinction: there's a difference between information available in the modern network (billing information, tower ID, GPS coordinates), and information shared with the user (Caller ID).

Just think about the infra of the Call Center wiring system, that's how it goes. Naa ko ani nga idea kay diha ko gikan before.

CLEAR?


ONT:
Now, let's back to the topic, ayaw jud mo ug compyansa ug binuang over the phone kay for sure you will be dead soon kung e-squeeze up jud mo sa taga-NBI! So, better be Watchful guys sa mga things!

[drwtsn32]

Guys, guys, don't you know what is ethical hacking? Will, it is where a person hacks to find weaknesses in a system and then usually patches them. For example, a bank may pay a hacker to hack their systems to see if it is hackable. If he gets in, then they know there is potential for other people to hack in, and usually they will work with this ethical hacker to patch these holes. If he doesn't get in, then they pray that nobody is better at hacking than him.

Let me add this. Hacking is simply exploring a computer's designed features, and learning how to exploit or take advantage of those features. As an example. a computer is designed to load instructions into memory using clearly defined rules, outlined in an RFC that spells out how to load something into memory.

A hacker (white, grey, or black) looks at it this way. The RFC says to load an instruction into memory, use 8 bits of data, and two bits of instruction, then 8 more bits of data, and two more bits of instruction.

A hacker looks at this and wonders, what if I pass 9 bits of data, what if I pass ten bits. etc. Sooner or later the computer will not be able to deal with the amount of data being passed in a manner it understands. Maybe it can accept 9 bits, 10 bits, and just ignore the discrepencies from the RFC, but sooner or later, the computer will not know how to interpret the instructions. When a computer does not know what to do next, it gives up and passes control to the SYSTEM, which is all powerful.

This is a very basic description of a bufffer overflow. The hacker wants to force the computer to give up, and pass control to the SYSTEM. Once this happens, the hacker has administrative control and can now start passing commands to the computer that it will follow without question.

There are three levels of hackers.

White Hats spend all their time trying to break the system, to prove it can ge broke, so they can get the manufacurer to address the problem and fix it.

Grey hats do the same thing, but perhaps will try to gain from their new way of breaking the system. They may expect payment for finding a way to break the system, and they may even try to get financial gain from their knowledge or silence.

Black hats want to take the knowledge of how to break a system and use it for financial gain. They may use it to hack systems or write code that allows others to hack systems, and sell that code.

All three are doing the same thing, trying to break the systems. The difference is what they intend to DO with the information once they discover it.

Script Kiddies take the information that hackers discover, and try to use it for their own gain. They discover nothing, they just use what others have discovered, and try to copy it for their own gain.

He's ethical kono and he doesn't do it for money, yet he spams....and proud of it. Huh?

Yet, spamming is not evil but it is just a business. there are 6 types of spam such as email, comment, instant messenger, Junk fax, unsolicited text messages, and social networking, yet depends on how you intentionally release them either to public like to whom it may concern or to a specific (persistent) target and that's bad. Pero kung mo publish lang ka just once to promote your product then that's business. Actually, there are call centers nga nagbusiness ana ari sa Cebu and they are promoting ther product through spam.

[moklo]

...yes, if that is the case but how many times before ka mo call for example ari ako ka motawag, 1st attempt? that means suspicious, seconds attempt is active na and threatening, so, what's the plan of the NBI? is to watch your third call they will be prepare to intercept your call using GPS. Now, how could be able to escape that? you think dili?

...another, situation kung ang suspect intention jud niya that would be very easy, but if once lang siya then, i think, if the sa ngalang nga kinsa jud nang tawhana to be specific, yes, dili jud mailhan, however, logs sa ISP ma trace jud kung diin gikan ang calls, unsang orasa, unsang adlawa, ug asa dapitang impernoha...

...i think i am making a sense.

Bro pwede diayka ma trace using GPS bsan old cellphone imong gamiton? Kabalo ko anng GPS gamay pero wonder lng ko kung kanng mga old model nga phone... kabalo sad ko gamay anang Cell ID sa cellsites kana pud triangulation, ingon man gud ka bisan asa dapit nga impernoha ma kita jud. Naa diay na positioning system ang mga GSM networks nga accurate kaayo?

[wire]

...what i would saying is that an active phone or phone calls can perfectly be traced, whether GPS enabled or not as long as (if) the suspect is actively engaging with calls on a spot, however, if he did on passive a situation, yes it can also be traced but It would take a long time to investigate, since, there are lots of party involved need to collect information such as ISP, caller id, logs, cell sites location, last time of call, last coordinates, everything.. etc. and it can be traced though.

...Bro, if you really know the foundation of GPS, dili cguro ka mangutana. Hehehe... because, kung akong isulti tanan, mura nakag si sponge bob. Why? because, naa ka idea sa GPS nya mangutana ka ug ma-trace ba diay ang mga old cell phones. Akong ika-sulti about this stupid question is that, think about sa atong technology karon how they evolved. Or kung dili paka satisfied ask sa mga Professionals nga nagtrabaho sa National Telecommunications Commission (NTC).

Bro pwede diayka ma trace using GPS bsan old cellphone imong gamiton? Kabalo ko anng GPS gamay pero wonder lng ko kung kanng mga old model nga phone... kabalo sad ko gamay anang Cell ID sa cellsites kana pud triangulation, ingon man gud ka bisan asa dapit nga impernoha ma kita jud. Naa diay na positioning system ang mga GSM networks nga accurate kaayo?

[drwtsn32]

hehehe... magkatawa man ko ani nga question oi, He knows about sa GPS, hisgot siya about coordinates pero ngutana sa old cellphone kung ma-trace ba or dili? wtf! stupid! mga ing-ani bro ayaw ni tubaga usik usik lang ni sa oras... hehehehe

@bro wire, sakto ka may pa adto na sila ngutana sa NTC para dili magsscandalo ari... ma close nasad ni nga thread tungod aning mga lalis nga sayup!

wtf!

Bro pwede diayka ma trace using GPS bsan old cellphone imong gamiton? Kabalo ko anng GPS gamay pero wonder lng ko kung kanng mga old model nga phone... kabalo sad ko gamay anang Cell ID sa cellsites kana pud triangulation, ingon man gud ka bisan asa dapit nga impernoha ma kita jud. Naa diay na positioning system ang mga GSM networks nga accurate kaayo?

[wire]

...@drwtsn32m it doesn't matter to me bro, as long as masabtan. Kita igo ra man sad ta sa pag-explain kung pwede ba or dili, besides, diri sa akong trabaho wala man sad ko nanghambog ug unsa ni, as long as maka-deliver ta sa insakto information bahala na silag maglalis doesn't matter na sa ako. hehehehe ilaha nana...

[dammy]

Bro pwede diayka ma trace using GPS bsan old cellphone imong gamiton? Kabalo ko anng GPS gamay pero wonder lng ko kung kanng mga old model nga phone... kabalo sad ko gamay anang Cell ID sa cellsites kana pud triangulation, ingon man gud ka bisan asa dapit nga impernoha ma kita jud. Naa diay na positioning system ang mga GSM networks nga accurate kaayo?

"Bro pwede diayka ma trace using GPS bsan old cellphone imong gamiton? Kabalo ko anng GPS gamay pero wonder lng ko kung kanng mga old model nga phone... kabalo sad ko gamay anang Cell ID sa cellsites kana pud triangulation"

old cellphone does not have GPS on it but can emit signal in the form of frequency then through frequency you can calculate its wavelength as a signal strength.

you dont know triangulation for sure. using triangulation method (many graduate Civil engr knows this but only on paper) bisan asa dapit nga impernoha ma locate gyud ka.

btw old mobile phone can be easy infiltrate like spying on it.

[moklo]

...what i would saying is that an active phone or phone calls can perfectly be traced, whether GPS enabled or not as long as (if) the suspect is actively engaging with calls on a spot, however, if he did on passive a situation, yes it can also be traced but It would take a long time to investigate, since, there are lots of party involved need to collect information such as ISP, caller id, logs, cell sites location, last time of call, last coordinates, everything.. etc. and it can be traced though.

...Bro, if you really know the foundation of GPS, dili cguro ka mangutana. Hehehe... because, kung akong isulti tanan, mura nakag si sponge bob. Why? because, naa ka idea sa GPS nya mangutana ka ug ma-trace ba diay ang mga old cell phones. Akong ika-sulti about this stupid question is that, think about sa atong technology karon how they evolved. Or kung dili paka satisfied ask sa mga Professionals nga nagtrabaho sa National Telecommunications Commission (NTC).

Stupid if feel nimo kamao ko...

hehehe... magkatawa man ko ani nga question oi, He knows about sa GPS, hisgot siya about coordinates pero ngutana sa old cellphone kung ma-trace ba or dili? wtf! stupid! mga ing-ani bro ayaw ni tubaga usik usik lang ni sa oras... hehehehe

@bro wire, sakto ka may pa adto na sila ngutana sa NTC para dili magsscandalo ari... ma close nasad ni nga thread tungod aning mga lalis nga sayup!

wtf!

that is not stupidity, kabalo lng ko gamay tungod sa net nakabasa ko pro the whole thing kuwang pa ko. not like you hackers...

OT sa TS pasinsya kaayo, ngutana ra ko...

[moklo]

"Bro pwede diayka ma trace using GPS bsan old cellphone imong gamiton? Kabalo ko anng GPS gamay pero wonder lng ko kung kanng mga old model nga phone... kabalo sad ko gamay anang Cell ID sa cellsites kana pud triangulation"

old cellphone does not have GPS on it but can emit signal in the form of frequency then through frequency you can calculate its wavelength as a signal strength.

you dont know triangulation for sure. using triangulation method (many graduate Civil engr knows this but only on paper) bisan asa dapit nga impernoha ma locate gyud ka.

btw old mobile phone can be easy infiltrate like spying on it.

mao lageh bro cge ko search sa google kung ang old cp naa bai GPS, wa man klaro uban moingon naa daw pero only service provider lng maka activate ana, uban pud o ingon wala...